EVE 2021: Much Abloo About Dr. Who

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Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

What is there to wargame?

When TAPIGoon has 2x your numbers in titans mixed across all damage types what exactly are you expecting to be able to pull off against them?

PLNC are alliances focused on PvP. We don't want to PvE. Maybe that makes us weak with this stupid krab-centric new order but I'd rather die as a PvP alliance than embrace spod into my brain.

If they wanted to win with PVP couldn't they have stopped goons from mining when they had the numerical advantage? The whole point of Rorquals is PvP bait.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 18:38

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working mom: Jul 8, 2015

Rutibex posted:

If they wanted to win with PVP couldn't they have stopped goons from mining when they had the numerical advantage? The whole point of Rorquals is PvP bait.

The uncounterable invulnerability they have is dumb

# ? Sep 14, 2018 18:53

evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

working mom posted:

The uncounterable invulnerability they have is dumb

its counterable: you just have to hold grid for five minutes. it just means you have to be willing to fight a defense fleet.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 19:03

working mom: Jul 8, 2015

evilweasel posted:

its counterable: you just have to hold grid for five minutes. it just means you have to be willing to fight a defense fleet.

its 7 and a half, but you also have to manage to break a tank that makes triage blush

# ? Sep 14, 2018 19:05

juche avocado: Dec 23, 2009

groon has the first wormhole citadel kill and you can never take that from us and/or them :911:

at least i'm pretty confident it was the first

# ? Sep 14, 2018 19:18

juche avocado: Dec 23, 2009

it's me i'm the person trying to make a serious post while also using the words "dragonsharts"

(dragonsharts)

# ? Sep 14, 2018 19:20

working mom: Jul 8, 2015

juche avocado posted:

it's me i'm the person trying to make a serious post while also using the words "dragonsharts"

(dragonsharts)

Dragons sharting is no laughing matter, it's a serious condition of terrible spray posting

# ? Sep 14, 2018 19:41

vulvamancer: Oct 2, 2006; Yes! It all makes sense! We may be freaks, but we're freaks with teeth, and claws, and magic wands! And together, we can stand up to Farquaad!

Landsknecht posted:

The current cutting-edge meta for supercaps is to have as many titans as possible, there's no way around that. GSF+Test have won the supercap game (mass as many rorqs+titans as possible), as long as they're together, unless somehow NCDOT+PL can pull some magic out and match those numbers.

The thing about this is our numbers were dead even. There has never been parity in supers like this before. The final x47 timer where we went 20-1 in titans the north was within 10 total titans of us (out of about 400) and had more supers.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 19:47

Ynglaur: Oct 9, 2013; The Malta Conference, anyone?

vulvamancer posted:

The thing about this is our numbers were dead even. There has never been parity in supers like this before. The final x47 timer where we went 20-1 in titans the north was within 10 total titans of us (out of about 400) and had more supers.

But those Titans waaaaaaay in the back don't count because...

# ? Sep 14, 2018 19:54

Alkabob: May 31, 2011; I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

So you see it wasn't guns or bombs that brought down PL but the simplest of God's creatures Icelanders finally correcting broken things.

Oh yeah almost forgot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7MDdcVJ1LE

Alkabob fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Sep 14, 2018

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:05

Hexel: Nov 18, 2011

If at any given moment, N3 ping for all hands on dick supercarriers and capital ships, they will get more individual people in fleet than your entire coalition can combined on its very best day.

This isn't conjecture, this is something that has been proven again and again because your leaders like to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the game itself in favor of posting and posturing and writing tl;dr CEO updates about garbage that will never see the light of day (and if it does, the only place it will be is on the killboard of my alliance) instead of realizing that every capital and supercapital pilot with a pulse and a will to use their dread/super/titan/slowcat is gravitating towards one side because hey, guess what, that side actually DOES use their big toys on the regular and when push comes to shove as evidenced by the fight in DY- your alliance is literally impotent.

If a super 'fight' actually happens, it isn't going to be an actual fight, it is going to be a CFC gangrape hosted by Manny, Grath and Vince and you'll have no one to blame but your own leaders and FCs for being yes men faggots instead of growing a pair of balls and equipping some initiative.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:07

Landsknecht: Oct 27, 2009; I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

vulvamancer posted:

The thing about this is our numbers were dead even. There has never been parity in supers like this before. The final x47 timer where we went 20-1 in titans the north was within 10 total titans of us (out of about 400) and had more supers.

yeah, but unlike the north your alliances aren't full of shitlers who will only listen to their own FC

PL would actually be cool if they just stopped trying to be relevant and unironically wulfpax'd around

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:10

DisgracelandUSA: Aug 11, 2011; Yeah, I gets down with the homies

Hexel posted:

If at any given moment, N3 ping for all hands on dick supercarriers and capital ships, they will get more individual people in fleet than your entire coalition can combined on its very best day.

This isn't conjecture, this is something that has been proven again and again because your leaders like to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the game itself in favor of posting and posturing and writing tl;dr CEO updates about garbage that will never see the light of day (and if it does, the only place it will be is on the killboard of my alliance) instead of realizing that every capital and supercapital pilot with a pulse and a will to use their dread/super/titan/slowcat is gravitating towards one side because hey, guess what, that side actually DOES use their big toys on the regular and when push comes to shove as evidenced by the fight in DY- your alliance is literally impotent.

If a super 'fight' actually happens, it isn't going to be an actual fight, it is going to be a CFC gangrape hosted by Manny, Grath and Vince and you'll have no one to blame but your own leaders and FCs for being yes men faggots instead of growing a pair of balls and equipping some initiative.

Oh man, that's the good stuff.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:14

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

Rhymenoserous posted:

PL was on our side during the whole BoB thing which is near and dear to the directorates heart despite literally not mattering at all anymore.

This was a lot less true than you think when I was a director (some years ago now). It was more often a case of 'well we don't have a good way of seriously hurting them so let's make a virtue of it' iirc. I personally thought they were dicks ever since they blew up a thunder dome or something we held to celebrate the end of Delve 2 :v:

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:25

Gwyneth Palpate: Jun 7, 2010; Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Hexel posted:

If at any given moment, N3 ping for all hands on dick supercarriers and capital ships, they will get more individual people in fleet than your entire coalition can combined on its very best day.

This isn't conjecture, this is something that has been proven again and again because your leaders like to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the game itself in favor of posting and posturing and writing tl;dr CEO updates about garbage that will never see the light of day (and if it does, the only place it will be is on the killboard of my alliance) instead of realizing that every capital and supercapital pilot with a pulse and a will to use their dread/super/titan/slowcat is gravitating towards one side because hey, guess what, that side actually DOES use their big toys on the regular and when push comes to shove as evidenced by the fight in DY- your alliance is literally impotent.

If a super 'fight' actually happens, it isn't going to be an actual fight, it is going to be a CFC gangrape hosted by Manny, Grath and Vince and you'll have no one to blame but your own leaders and FCs for being yes men faggots instead of growing a pair of balls and equipping some initiative.

thank you for digging this up, i was looking for it a while ago

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:32

FruitNYogurtParfait: Mar 29, 2006; Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
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feedmegin posted:

This was a lot less true than you think when I was a director (some years ago now). It was more often a case of 'well we don't have a good way of seriously hurting them so let's make a virtue of it' iirc. I personally thought they were dicks ever since they blew up a thunder dome or something we held to celebrate the end of Delve 2

and it was more true when i was, shamis was pretty friendly

the Top Men vacillated on PL for like 5 years before finally going ok ok these guys are assholes keep them at arms length instead of letting them close enough to lightly shiv the kidneys again

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:36

ChickenWing: Jul 22, 2010

Hexel posted:

If at any given moment, N3 ping for all hands on dick supercarriers and capital ships, they will get more individual people in fleet than your entire coalition can combined on its very best day.

This isn't conjecture, this is something that has been proven again and again because your leaders like to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the game itself in favor of posting and posturing and writing tl;dr CEO updates about garbage that will never see the light of day (and if it does, the only place it will be is on the killboard of my alliance) instead of realizing that every capital and supercapital pilot with a pulse and a will to use their dread/super/titan/slowcat is gravitating towards one side because hey, guess what, that side actually DOES use their big toys on the regular and when push comes to shove as evidenced by the fight in DY- your alliance is literally impotent.

If a super 'fight' actually happens, it isn't going to be an actual fight, it is going to be a CFC gangrape hosted by Manny, Grath and Vince and you'll have no one to blame but your own leaders and FCs for being yes men faggots instead of growing a pair of balls and equipping some initiative.

aw yeah inject that poo poo into my veins

what was that dude's name again? W-something

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:45

juche avocado: Dec 23, 2009

has the game's ~*culture meta*~ advanced past groundbreaking witticisms like all hands on dick or

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:49

Landsknecht: Oct 27, 2009; I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

juche avocado posted:

has the game's ~*culture meta*~ advanced past groundbreaking witticisms like all hands on dick or

there is still a lot of racism and latent homophobia

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:54

Johnny Five-Jaces: Jan 21, 2009

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

What is there to wargame?

When TAPIGoon has 2x your numbers in titans mixed across all damage types what exactly are you expecting to be able to pull off against them?

PLNC are alliances focused on PvP. We don't want to PvE. Maybe that makes us weak with this stupid krab-centric new order but I'd rather die as a PvP alliance than embrace spod into my brain.

source your quotes please

# ? Sep 14, 2018 20:55

CainFortea: Oct 15, 2004

working mom posted:

The uncounterable invulnerability they have is dumb

Before we started murdering citadels in the north, we would kill rorquals all the time in the north. Rorquals die in delve all the time too. It's only "uncounterable" if you use the word like globby does. As in "we could counter it if we put forth a bit of effort, but naaaah"

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:15

working mom: Jul 8, 2015

CainFortea posted:

Before we started murdering citadels in the north, we would kill rorquals all the time in the north. Rorquals die in delve all the time too. It's only "uncounterable" if you use the word like globby does. As in "we could counter it if we put forth a bit of effort, but naaaah"

Uncounterable in globby terms isn't an unfair usage, something is broken if the only way to kill it is if the person flying it makes a mistake or series of mistakes

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:31

CainFortea: Oct 15, 2004

working mom posted:

Uncounterable in globby terms isn't an unfair usage, something is broken if the only way to kill it is if the person flying it makes a mistake or series of mistakes

Or, you know, hold grid for 10 minutes. vOv

Edit: That's all the defensive rorqual changes have done, is allow the defender the option of actually defending the miner. Gives them enough time to show up.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:36

evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

CainFortea posted:

Or, you know, hold grid for 10 minutes. vOv

Edit: That's all the defensive rorqual changes have done, is allow the defender the option of actually defending the miner. Gives them enough time to show up.

yeah goonswarm has been able to kill plenty of hostile rorquals

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:38

Gwyneth Palpate: Jun 7, 2010; Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

"uncounterable" is Elite-PVP-ese for "can't be killed by 5 interceptors"

as usual it falls to us, lords of eve online: a space-themed spreadsheet, to assume the mantle of Space Wildlife Fund for atto-gang PVP players

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:40

Xae: Jan 19, 2005

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

"uncounterable" is Elite-PVP-ese for "can't be killed by 5 interceptors"

as usual it falls to us, lords of eve online: a space-themed spreadsheet, to assume the mantle of Space Wildlife Fund for atto-gang PVP players

Its like kill board obsessed gankers are terminally afraid of having to commit to a fight.

Maybe if they poo poo post hard enough fozzy will make the angel Titans nano Titans.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:42

evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

yeah we didn't slaughter the north's titans like so many terrified cattle by being unwilling to accept losses, we threw down expecting to lose more than we gained and fight anyway and then whoops the first fight was even and the second fight was, well, a slaughter of terrified cattle each more concerned with fleeing than with fighting

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:44

Tsed: Jan 30, 2008; aaaaag drugs

ChickenWing posted:

what was that dude's name again? W-something

I think that was Richter Enderas. Which I think is the same guy who absolutely lost his poo poo over the first cultural revolution.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:53

Gwyneth Palpate: Jun 7, 2010; Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

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Xae posted:

Its like kill board obsessed gankers are terminally afraid of having to commit to a fight.

Maybe if they poo poo post hard enough fozzy will make the angel Titans nano Titans.

well, the bonuses for angel ships are for warp speed and they are typically extremely agile ships, so... :fap:

also they may look like this:

# ? Sep 14, 2018 21:57

Bilirubin: Feb 16, 2014; The sanctioned action is to CHUG

WTF is an "angel"

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:14

Landsknecht: Oct 27, 2009; I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

working mom posted:

Uncounterable in globby terms isn't an unfair usage, something is broken if the only way to kill it is if the person flying it makes a mistake or series of mistakes

i mean you can give globby poo poo but I think in kb stats he's often in the top 10 of all of eve

the guy knows how to blow poo poo up and abuse mechanics to do so

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:14

evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

Landsknecht posted:

i mean you can give globby poo poo but I think in kb stats he's often in the top 10 of all of eve

the guy knows how to blow poo poo up and abuse mechanics to do so

yeah but the man can't post for poo poo

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:15

juche avocado: Dec 23, 2009

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

well, the bonuses for angel ships are for warp speed and they are typically extremely agile ships, so...

also they may look like this:

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:17

Landsknecht: Oct 27, 2009; I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

evilweasel posted:

yeah but the man can't post for poo poo

that hasn't stopped you either

but in all seriousness, I am interested to see if the PA acquisition means that CCP starts to make the "non-consensual" pvp a bit more difficult

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:19

Gwyneth Palpate: Jun 7, 2010; Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

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Bilirubin posted:

WTF is an "angel"

they are a pirate faction that occupy the minmatar flavored nullsec

their ships are the dramiel, cynabal, and machariel, all go-fast nano boats with a warp speed bonus

since all the other faction titans have roughly the same bonuses as their subcap brethren, it stands to reason that their titan will too, and as the original hyperspatial hel haver, the whole possibility gives me a funny tickle in my no-no spot

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:19

Landsknecht: Oct 27, 2009; I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

they are a pirate faction that occupy the minmatar flavored nullsec

their ships are the dramiel, cynabal, and machariel, all go-fast nano boats with a warp speed bonus

since all the other faction titans have roughly the same bonuses as their subcap brethren, it stands to reason that their titan will too, and as the original hyperspatial hel haver, the whole possibility gives me a funny tickle in my no-no spot

a titan with the same bonuses as the subcaps would be amazing for arty drivebys

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:22

juche avocado: Dec 23, 2009

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

they are a pirate faction that occupy the minmatar flavored nullsec

their ships are the dramiel, cynabal, and machariel, all go-fast nano boats with a warp speed bonus

since all the other faction titans have roughly the same bonuses as their subcap brethren, it stands to reason that their titan will too, and as the original hyperspatial hel haver, the whole possibility gives me a funny tickle in my no-no spot

ur gettin ur chain pulled

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:25

Gwyneth Palpate: Jun 7, 2010; Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

juche avocado posted:

ur gettin ur chain pulled

i never let that stop me from going into explanations with unnecessarily large amounts of detail

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:26

ZekeNY: Jun 13, 2013; Probably AFK

Hexel posted:

If at any given moment, N3 ping for all hands on dick supercarriers and capital ships, they will get more individual people in fleet than your entire coalition can combined on its very best day.

This isn't conjecture, this is something that has been proven again and again because your leaders like to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the game itself in favor of posting and posturing and writing tl;dr CEO updates about garbage that will never see the light of day (and if it does, the only place it will be is on the killboard of my alliance) instead of realizing that every capital and supercapital pilot with a pulse and a will to use their dread/super/titan/slowcat is gravitating towards one side because hey, guess what, that side actually DOES use their big toys on the regular and when push comes to shove as evidenced by the fight in DY- your alliance is literally impotent.

If a super 'fight' actually happens, it isn't going to be an actual fight, it is going to be a CFC gangrape hosted by Manny, Grath and Vince and you'll have no one to blame but your own leaders and FCs for being yes men faggots instead of growing a pair of balls and equipping some initiative.

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:52

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Hexel: Nov 18, 2011

Tsed posted:

I think that was Richter Enderas. Which I think is the same guy who absolutely lost his poo poo over the first cultural revolution.

yep that was him, ex-test scooped into PL

# ? Sep 14, 2018 22:54

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