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Improbable Lobster posted:Twin Peaks is a fictional television show
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I dyed by beard red and went as cheerleader Nadine for Halloween last year and no one got it. It's harder to walk around completely trashed with an eyepatch than you would think.
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Sep 12, 2018 23:51
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Have there been good explanations online of what the ending was all about? I read some back when the show ended and through a few weeks afterwards but stopped reading and looking online after a while.
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Sep 12, 2018 23:57
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Cooper retroactively prevented Laura's murder, but the more things change the more they stay the same, man.
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Sep 13, 2018 00:07
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Cooper fucks up while saving Laura. He pulls her out of reality, hesitates on the threshold, and loses her like Orpheus does Eurydice. Cooper then performs a ritual with Diane to sacrifice his own self and his own love to travel into the underworld to try and save Laura again. He hesitates again, but Laura has a spark of recognition, connects with her life, and the dark world collapses.
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Sep 13, 2018 00:53
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Rocco posted:That Super Nadine poo poo sucked. Super Nadine is a silly and ridiculous story that ends with a great payoff when it shifts back into serious and totally torpedoes the brief chance that Big Ed and Norma have at being happy together.
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Sep 13, 2018 01:45
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Your Parents posted:Cooper fucks up while saving Laura. He pulls her out of reality, hesitates on the threshold, and loses her like Orpheus does Eurydice. Cooper then performs a ritual with Diane to sacrifice his own self and his own love to travel into the underworld to try and save Laura again. He hesitates again, but Laura has a spark of recognition, connects with her life, and the dark world collapses. Laura is the one.
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Sep 13, 2018 02:01
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Your Parents posted:Cooper fucks up while saving Laura. He pulls her out of reality, hesitates on the threshold, and loses her like Orpheus does Eurydice. Cooper then performs a ritual with Diane to sacrifice his own self and his own love to travel into the underworld to try and save Laura again. He hesitates again, but Laura has a spark of recognition, connects with her life, and the dark world collapses. drat what a good loving show
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Sep 13, 2018 03:22
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https://twitter.com/JamesADamore/status/1041027304682483712
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Sep 15, 2018 20:00
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He doesn’t deserve to exist in this thread.
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Sep 15, 2018 20:10
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The google incel
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Sep 15, 2018 20:28
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https://m.wikihow.com/Create-a-Tulpa Simple
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Sep 15, 2018 20:46
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“Tulpas are often associated with My Little Pony lovers, but many different tulpae exist.” What.
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Sep 15, 2018 20:49
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i imagine someone reading this and saying "yeah, but how do i gently caress it?"
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Sep 15, 2018 20:53
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SeANMcBAY posted:“Tulpas are often associated with My Little Pony lovers, but many different tulpae exist.” Self-induced 4chan mental illness
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Sep 16, 2018 02:37
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I've been rewatching Lynch movies. The last one was Lost Highway. The scene where the main character sits in his room, thinking about her (avoiding spoilers), is so similar to Part 8, with the buzzing sounds and random out of focus shots. It's around the one hour and 19 minutes mark. Check it out. Also, that movie is so nineties, holy poo poo. And Gary Busey is in it. 
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Sep 16, 2018 11:22
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What the ever loving gently caress?!
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Sep 16, 2018 21:53
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Odddzy posted:Have there been good explanations online of what the ending was all about? I read some back when the show ended and through a few weeks afterwards but stopped reading and looking online after a while. At the end Laura realizes her own illusory status, the fact that she's a fantasy of the men in the story (including Cooper), someone to be rescued or obsessed over, and the fantasy collapses because of its own inconsistencies. The low-fi type of weird effects the show has are supposed to highlight the story as an inconsistent fantasy I don't like explanations that rely on "timelines" and stuff that try to reconcile the plot into something that makes sense. It's a show that works thematically and through mood and allusion, not through something you can put on some childish videogame franchise timeline graph. When Cooper is in the strange world at the end, it's not another timeline, but a fantasy-as-nightmare of Laura having been saved Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Sep 16, 2018 |
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Sep 16, 2018 22:30
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It’s both and neither.
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Sep 17, 2018 01:55
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Hundreds of interpretations of the finale, all of which are valid and extremely personal. Lynch definitely gave us the ending we needed, not the one we wanted 
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Sep 17, 2018 01:57
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I don't think it works on one level to the exclusion of any other level. I like thinking about how Lynch plays with the relationship with the audience. FWWM starts with the smashing of a TV (basically what TP did), and then ends with saved Laura basking in the blue glow like the light of a TV. Basically the character of Laura Palmer is always going to exist as this loved entity based on the popularity of the TV show, never mind what her actual last days were like. Now S3E18 is basically re-writing history. If you try to strip away the original show, what are you left with? It's just awkward and weird and sad in the harsh light of the 21st century. The audience's baggage is such a critical part of S3, if you strip it all away, S18 is probably just as disorienting as the rest of S3 is for someone who's never seen S1&2. S3E18 is about a woman with a totally f-ed up past that she's totally blocked out, and some sicko (you, the audience) is pushing her to confront that past. You may think it's for her own good, but it's really about your own need for resolution. What a sick gently caress you are, audience!
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Sep 17, 2018 02:08
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I take it for what it really is, dumb & stupid
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Sep 17, 2018 03:35
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A friend sent me this custom Agent Cooper action figure today. This is 6" scale, so it fits in with Marvel Legends and most DC superheroes, plus the Star Wars Black figure line. At some point I'd like to paint the tie the iconic red, white, and black stripe pattern that he wore in the pilot, so it looks even more like Coop. The body is from a Dark Knight Rises Movie Masters Alfred figure, and the head is from a DC Multiverse Atom figure (based on Brandon Routh's likeness, from the Legends of Tomorrow, Arrow, and Flash shows). They're both made by Mattel and in the same scale, so we were lucky the head fit perfectly on the body.
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Sep 17, 2018 04:09
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It doesn't really look like him at all. Maybe someone from China can make a realistic Cooper. Some of the doll heads I've seen on AliExpress are insane Edit: https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32860992181.html?pid=808_0000_0101&spm=a2g0n.search-amp.list.32860992181 Alan_Shore fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Sep 17, 2018 |
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Sep 17, 2018 04:42
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Empress Brosephine posted:I take it for what it really is, dumb & stupid Hot take displaying a dismissal of an artistic endeavor? Sounds like someone needs their lack of imagination validated via posting their opinion.
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Sep 17, 2018 13:03
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Shibawanko posted:At the end Laura realizes her own illusory status, the fact that she's a fantasy of the men in the story (including Cooper), someone to be rescued or obsessed over, and the fantasy collapses because of its own inconsistencies. The low-fi type of weird effects the show has are supposed to highlight the story as an inconsistent fantasy Laura is the only real person on the show and is explicitly drawn with more depth than anyone else. Magic FBI Detective Man isn't a real person having a fantasy of being a savior. He is the fantasy.
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Sep 17, 2018 16:24
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The vast majority of season 3 is Cooper learning what actual humans are like because he's a dream that's been lost inside of another dream for 25 years.
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Sep 17, 2018 16:28
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I don't want to hear any readings about Twin Peaks being a TV show and therefore a "dream" because that is loving lame
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Sep 17, 2018 16:30
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BetterLekNextTime posted:S3E18 is about a woman with a totally f-ed up past that she's totally blocked out, and some sicko (you, the audience) is pushing her to confront that past. You may think it's for her own good, but it's really about your own need for resolution. What a sick gently caress you are, audience!
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Sep 17, 2018 16:45
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I want a Denise action figure.
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Sep 17, 2018 16:49
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Your Parents posted:The vast majority of season 3 is Cooper learning what actual humans are like because he's a dream that's been lost inside of another dream for 25 years. Laura is the Fayth, and Cooper is the star Blitzball player.
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Sep 17, 2018 17:30
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Alan_Shore posted:I don't want to hear any readings about Twin Peaks being a TV show and therefore a "dream" because that is loving lame sorry dude its david lynch so literally everything is about dreams and dream worlds and the symbolic language of dreams
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Sep 17, 2018 18:10
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HD DAD posted:Laura is the Fayth, and Cooper is the star Blitzball player.
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Sep 17, 2018 18:32
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Alan_Shore posted:It doesn't really look like him at all. It looks like they gave him Dylan McDermott's head. 
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Sep 17, 2018 18:51
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i loved the early interpretation posted many, many pages ago about the ending being a sort of... indictment of Cooper's hubris-tic attempt to shape and form reality. meddling with forces so much more powerful, ancient, and alien to anything he can possibly comprehend that a simple decade+ period of mental training (or whatever the gently caress he was doing in the black lodge all this time) is so..... stupid. i've randomly popped on episodes of the series since reading this, and you can see shades of cooper's control-freak nature and attempts to control various forms of chaos to his own ends occasionally. like the season 1 "tossing rocks at a glass bottle to eliminate suspects" scene.
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Sep 17, 2018 19:12
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If i didn't enjoy/understand much of The Return during its initial play, is it worth buying the DVDs/Blurays for the deleted scenes and the chance to watch it in fewer sittings?
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Sep 17, 2018 21:01
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Return is great on a rewatch, I picked up a lot more when I was less anxious about seeing the plot move forward
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Sep 17, 2018 21:03
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OscarDiggs posted:If i didn't enjoy/understand much of The Return during its initial play, is it worth buying the DVDs/Blurays for the deleted scenes and the chance to watch it in fewer sittings? There aren't any deleted scenes on the blu ray. But if you like Lynch and want to see hours of behind-the-scenes stuff, it's definitely worth it.
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Sep 17, 2018 21:27
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wa27 posted:There aren't any deleted scenes on the blu ray. But if you like Lynch and want to see hours of behind-the-scenes stuff, it's definitely worth it. Twin Peaks is the only Lynch thing I know, so that's not much of a draw. Is it generally easier to understand with less sittings? As an example I only knew Coop had somehow changed the past because this thread said so. And even with that I'm not clear in the specifics.
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Sep 17, 2018 21:31
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Tangential question, had you seen the first two seasons or, more importantly, Fire Walk With Me? Cause the changing-the-past bit is 2017 Coop literally inserted directly into the old scenes.
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