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ate all the Oreos posted:I like the papier mâché B-2 bomber, really adds that extra zing so you have no doubt that this is the Northrup Grumman that makes nuclear apocalypse murder machines and not like, the division that just makes satellite components or w/e But they like gay people though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSBFTKI-zIM&t=4s
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:Healthcare $0 Spend more on defense
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Communist Walrus posted:Spend more on defense You know I always thought there was a perverse irony in the fact that during the time period in which the US actually had to (sometimes) defend itself, it was called the Department of War. Then right around the time it became obvious that there was no realistic scenario in which we could be invaded, and that most/all conflicts would be abroad and probably instigated by us, it became the Department of Defense. Is there any way I can blame capitalism for that?
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Chomp8645 posted:You know I always thought there was a perverse irony in the fact that during the time period in which the US actually had to (sometimes) defend itself, it was called the Department of War. Then right around the time it became obvious that there was no realistic scenario in which we could be invaded, and that most/all conflicts would be abroad and probably instigated by us, it became the Department of Defense. Military industrial complex my dude
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Y'all reminded me of this recent EIT: https://vimeo.com/271688732 God bless Hughes and their wonderful missiles 
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The Bloop posted:this is dumb and you know it the democrats are directly comparable to the british conservative party lmao
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The Bloop posted:this is dumb and you know it It's not dumb, and EVERYBODY knows it, even if they can't articulate such. The democratic party is a dead-center business party that couches their moral vacuity in rhetoric about personal liberty and human rights while simultaneously concentrating wealth among the elite, emboldening the security state, and despoiling the biosphere. They don't need to be changed from within by DSA, they need to be thrown overboard.
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My point was that left/right in a two party system is relative and the Dems are what passes for "left" in America. That's all, and it doesn't belong in this image thread anyway so I apologize and back out if the derail. Full Communism Now
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The Bloop posted:Full Communism Now lol that's the spirit. I dunno what belongs in this thread anymore, I had no idea it would take off like it did. I'm happy that it's facilitating good convo and the occasional horrifying image.
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capitalism is not as bad as the holocaust. there I said it
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Siljmonster posted:This thread needs more bootlickers defending Capitalism for me to yell at It's the only release I have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTBkj8gFfI
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Senor Dog posted:capitalism is not as bad as the holocaust. there I said it
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isn’t the infallible McDonald’s actually failing in Vietnam ?
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Siljmonster posted:This thread needs more bootlickers defending Capitalism for me to yell at Paging Nancy Pelosi to the thread
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Senor Dog posted:capitalism is not as bad as the holocaust. there I said it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
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Senor Dog posted:capitalism is not as bad as the holocaust. there I said it capitalism caused the holocaust
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Graphic posted:capitalism caused the holocaust yyes but but but the most pious capitalist jew factory slaves were saved by oskar schindler because they demonstrated their fealty unto Mammon and were deemed worthy and valuable the little girl in the red dress was a lazy socialist obviously
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https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1041797176609914887 Does this count as content? I feel like this should absolutely count.
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Owlbear Camus posted:https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1041797176609914887 people don't end up with a net worth of $45 million buy just helping everyone in their social circles with money problems buddy
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Senor Dog posted:capitalism is not as bad as the holocaust. there I said it lol, the Nazis were supported by German capitalists and supplied them with slave labour. They also literally invented the term "privatisation" and abolished all unions. Capitalism was integral to the Holocaust.
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SplitSoul posted:lol, the Nazis were supported by German capitalists and supplied them with slave labour. They also literally invented the term "privatisation" and abolished all unions. Capitalism was integral to the Holocaust. this is a dumb as gently caress take look to the nordic states for capitalism tempered by a strong social democratic government and you'll see the one goddamn loving way humanity has out of this mess that doesn't involve gigadeaths
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that tweet or joke that’s like “i’m socially liberal but fiscally conservative so while the problems are very bad but the reasons for the problems are very very good”
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Duscat posted:this is a dumb as gently caress take LOL, and he's talking about dumb as gently caress takes. Capitalism and a strong social democratic government can't co-exist for very long. See those exact states, which are sliding into fascism over immigration. That's because capitalism can only survive by constantly expanding, and every chucklefuck business owner who has his power limited by government is going to rail against it and scheme to bring it down in search of greater profits.
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Ardent Communist posted:LOL, and he's talking about dumb as gently caress takes. Capitalism and a strong social democratic government can't co-exist for very long. See those exact states, which are sliding into fascism over immigration. That's because capitalism can only survive by constantly expanding, and every chucklefuck business owner who has his power limited by government is going to rail against it and scheme to bring it down in search of greater profits. no
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👏liberalism 👏 is 👏 conservative 👏 ideology 👏 arguably this includes social democrats especially with how they cooperate with reactionaries to maintain power historically
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Larry Parrish posted:👏liberalism 👏 is 👏 conservative 👏 ideology 👏 bingo. plenty of (dumb) people like to rail against the communists for not allying with the social democrats against Hitler. And, yeah, taken in a vacuum, it was a poor decision. But then you remember that during the revolution in Germany, the social democrats took power and hired proto-fascist veteran's groups to massacre them, killing two of their leaders (Rosa and Karl) and allowing the maintenance of capital. In fact, it's one of the biggest betrayals ever, since if Germany went red, then the Soviet Union would not have been alone and had to resort to cruel and unusual methods merely to survive.
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Ardent Communist posted:bingo. plenty of (dumb) people like to rail against the communists for not allying with the social democrats against Hitler. And, yeah, taken in a vacuum, it was a poor decision. But then you remember that during the revolution in Germany, the social democrats took power and hired proto-fascist veteran's groups to massacre them, killing two of their leaders (Rosa and Karl) and allowing the maintenance of capital. In fact, it's one of the biggest betrayals ever, since if Germany went red, then the Soviet Union would not have been alone and had to resort to cruel and unusual methods merely to survive. let's do that again i guess
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Larry Parrish posted:👏liberalism 👏 is 👏 conservative 👏 ideology 👏 Conservatism is opposition to change. Liberalism seeks to change things for the worse.
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Liberalism was left wing for like, 10 months in the early stages of the French Revolution. They've been over their heads since.
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Duscat posted:let's do that again i guess lol, just lol, if you think that despite the hard place it was put in by being the only revolutionary state to survive till the 1920s, that the Soviet Union didn't result in an overall improvement for workers worldwide, by providing resources and education to class conscious workers (especially from colonies), and forcing capitalist states to make concessions to their workers lest them themselves be overthrown. That's just internationally, you could debate the effects their government had on their citizens, but I would just point out how the life expectancy in both the Soviet Union and Mao's China, as well as education metrics, improved vastly quicker than their neighbours.
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Ardent Communist posted:lol, just lol, if you think that despite the hard place it was put in by being the only revolutionary state to survive till the 1920s, that the Soviet Union didn't result in an overall improvement for workers worldwide, by providing resources and education to class conscious workers (especially from colonies), and forcing capitalist states to make concessions to their workers lest them themselves be overthrown. TRUMP
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Capitalism is the ideology of ripping the copper out of the walls to sell for drugs.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Capitalism is the ideology of ripping the copper out of the walls to sell for drugs. lol
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Ardent Communist posted:lol, just lol, if you think that despite the hard place it was put in by being the only revolutionary state to survive till the 1920s, that the Soviet Union didn't result in an overall improvement for workers worldwide, by providing resources and education to class conscious workers (especially from colonies), and forcing capitalist states to make concessions to their workers lest them themselves be overthrown. People talked about what a regressive police state the USSR was but even the shittiest periods of Stalinism after the civil war sounds a lot better to me since it involves not worrying about whether I'll make enough money to eat
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Ardent Communist posted:bingo. plenty of (dumb) people like to rail against the communists for not allying with the social democrats against Hitler. And, yeah, taken in a vacuum, it was a poor decision. But then you remember that during the revolution in Germany, the social democrats took power and hired proto-fascist veteran's groups to massacre them, killing two of their leaders (Rosa and Karl) and allowing the maintenance of capital. In fact, it's one of the biggest betrayals ever, since if Germany went red, then the Soviet Union would not have been alone and had to resort to cruel and unusual methods merely to survive. not to mention the part where there wouldn't have been a world war which killed like everybody in the USSR to recover from
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Duscat posted:this is a dumb as gently caress take Hey. Hey get this. There's no way out.
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soviet union: *sacrifices everything to single-handedly save the world from facism* USA: see that's what communism gets ya
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