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The "meant as a joke" thing doesn't make them not STDH though. It's like those letters. Most people know they aren't real, but the way they are presented is intended to make them look real. It's part of the joke, but not a part everyone gets. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there sharing those like "lol isn't it amazing what computers can do these days???"
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Also, the "it was always meant to be a joke" is the first defense of someone who was trying to claim their internet cred by posting STDH but was caught in their lie.
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Sep 16, 2018 16:22
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CinemaSins are just making jokes, you guys! It's sarcasm ex machina!
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Sep 16, 2018 16:27
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Not to defend everyone doing it, but getting mad that Keaton Patti's fake scripts are jokes is like getting mad that Levi Johnston didn't really write for Something Awful, or complaining that Mad Magazine isn't 100% factual.
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Sep 16, 2018 16:42
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Twitch posted:Not to defend everyone doing it, but getting mad that Keaton Patti's fake scripts are jokes is like getting mad that Levi Johnston didn't really write for Something Awful, or complaining that Mad Magazine isn't 100% factual. It's more that it's a fake-out, the real thing is hilarious to me so when I see someone claim something is a predicative or neural net gibberish post only to see an obvious and extremely unfunny fake I am dissapointed.
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Sep 16, 2018 17:32
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It's become an obvious joke format on twitter. 
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yeah I eat rear end posted:The "meant as a joke" thing doesn't make them not STDH though. It's like those letters. Most people know they aren't real, but the way they are presented is intended to make them look real. It's part of the joke, but not a part everyone gets. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there sharing those like "lol isn't it amazing what computers can do these days???" Right, death of the author. If people are treating it as real, it’s okay to judge it by that standard. BrigadierSensible posted:Also, the "it was always meant to be a joke" is the first defense of someone who was trying to claim their internet cred by posting STDH but was caught in their lie. That too.
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Sep 16, 2018 17:46
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Fathis Munk posted:It's become an obvious joke format on twitter. It's poo poo and lame though??
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JebanyPedal posted:It's more that it's a fake-out, the real thing is hilarious to me so when I see someone claim something is a predicative or neural net gibberish post only to see an obvious and extremely unfunny fake I am dissapointed. This is why I'm subscribed to Janelle Shane's mailing list. I know I'm getting the real thing, and I know I'm probably gonna laugh myself stupid at it.
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There was also a parody (which I can't find now) of these fake bot posts where someone said they'd forced a bot to read the fake posts for 1000 hours, and the "result" was based partly on Waiting for Godot. They also said that the bot killed itself afterward.
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Fathis Munk posted:Aren't most of those 1000 hours posts meant as jokes? Like after the few original bot written ones it just turned into a joke format imo. IDK I hate this stuff. Its basically some nitwit on the internet pulling the puppetmaster defense. "No, you moron, I said something wrong ON PURPOSE! GOT YOU!" Like okay dude good for you yeah I eat rear end posted:The "meant as a joke" thing doesn't make them not STDH though. It's like those letters. Most people know they aren't real, but the way they are presented is intended to make them look real. It's part of the joke, but not a part everyone gets. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there sharing those like "lol isn't it amazing what computers can do these days???" This
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Sep 17, 2018 18:54
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Fathis Munk posted:It's become an obvious joke format on twitter. And twitter is dumb. So who cares? How hard would it be to make the "joke" something that shows its self-aware, so that ACTUAL neural net outputs (which DO absolutely exist) don't get caught up in this silly "joke" bullshit? Like can we just say "I didn't force a bot to watch 1000 hours of X and here's the output" ? Would that change the joke in any significant way, other than dropping the ruse?
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Sep 17, 2018 18:55
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also absolutely none of Keaton Patti's poo poo is funny
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Sep 17, 2018 18:55
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Zaphod42 posted:And twitter is dumb. So who cares? Absolves you of the possible sin of being terrible and unfunny because you can blame it on the computer.
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Sep 17, 2018 19:46
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Yeah it's a way of dressing up super mediocre gags.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:08
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What would happen if you fed it 1,000 Not Always Right stories?
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Sep 17, 2018 20:51
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Jay Rust posted:What would happen if you fed it 1,000 Not Always Right stories? I think you now know what you must do.
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Jay Rust posted:What would happen if you fed it 1,000 Not Always Right stories? Then the subsequent robot uprising would be entirely justified. But I think someone might have already tried that in this thread or a previous iteration thereof.
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burial posted:I think you now know what you must Yes, that's stdh they're speaking, and no, these posters aren't retail employees - they're bots.
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Pastry of the Year posted:Yes, that's stdh they're speaking, and no, these posters aren't retail employees - they're bots.  Absolutely perfect. Made my day.
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Jay Rust posted:What would happen if you fed it 1,000 Not Always Right stories? Didn't someone make a bot or something that generated random Not Always Right stories? I think I remember it coming up in this thread.
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Sep 18, 2018 01:05
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And what's with knock-knock jokes? Most of the time when people tell them. they're not even knocking on a real door! Maybe tell the joke without making poo poo up next time, fuckwit.
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Comptroll The Forums posted:And what's with knock-knock jokes? Most of the time when people tell them. they're not even knocking on a real door! Maybe tell the joke without making poo poo up next time, fuckwit. Don't get me started on absurdist humour. That poo poo doesn't even make sense!
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Comptroll The Forums posted:And what's with knock-knock jokes? Most of the time when people tell them. they're not even knocking on a real door! Maybe tell the joke without making poo poo up next time, fuckwit. Okay you KNOW that’s a disingenuous comparison so why even make it
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GAINING WEIGHT... posted:Okay you KNOW that’s a disingenuous comparison so why even make it haha caught you, I was a puppet master all along  nothing personnel, kid
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You can do what I do: scroll right past anything labeled "I forced an AI to do X for 1,000 hours and it wrote this". I want the self-aware AI to just write out "gently caress you, dude. you watch 1,000 hours of Sanford and Son"
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Aleph Null posted:You can do what I do: scroll right past anything labeled "I forced an AI to do X for 1,000 hours and it wrote this". That would be a great idea for a Twitter bot, especially since the joke is in such a predictable format it would be easy to parse.
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Sep 18, 2018 21:22
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Aleph Null posted:You can do what I do: scroll right past anything labeled "I forced an AI to do X for 1,000 hours and it wrote this". Sanford & Son was a great show.
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If you're programming an AI, would it make any difference if you made it watch the SAW movies once or over and over for 1000 hours?
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SkunkDuster posted:If you're programming an AI, would it make any difference if you made it watch the SAW movies once or over and over for 1000 hours? The second way, you'd have a thousand hours before it killed you.
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PhotoKirk posted:Sanford & Son was a great show.  Redd Foxx was a treasure.
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SkunkDuster posted:If you're programming an AI, would it make any difference if you made it watch the SAW movies once or over and over for 1000 hours? Not sure if you were being serious, but yes it could. Ideally you'd have a large enough data set that you're not just repeating yourself, you want a diverse training set or you end up optimizing based on certain sub-problems that aren't always the case. But yes, doing training over a set of data for more iterations can have a huge effect on the output even if you don't change up the data set. If anything, having a bot watch 1000 hours of saw 1 would probably give better output than having a bot watch 100 hours of saw 1-5. But its hard to say without doing some testing and training. That's a solid question though, it makes sense that if the data doesn't change and if it were a purely deterministic algorithm, you'd get the same output each time, you're right. But the thing is since each training iteration uses the neural net that the last iteration made as its starting point, modifies that, and outputs a new neural net, each time even though you're inputting the same movie, you're not inputting the same machine state, so you do get different results. Generally the more training the better, it just dials in closer and closer to the best fit solution it can find.
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Zaphod42 posted:That's a solid question though, it makes sense that if the data doesn't change and if it were a purely deterministic algorithm, you'd get the same output each time, you're right. But the thing is since each training iteration uses the neural net that the last iteration made as its starting point, modifies that, and outputs a new neural net, each time even though you're inputting the same movie, you're not inputting the same machine state, so you do get different results. Generally the more training the better, it just dials in closer and closer to the best fit solution it can find. I was being serious and figured you would get the same output each time, but what you say makes good sense. Thanks!
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SkunkDuster posted:I was being serious and figured you would get the same output each time, but what you say makes good sense. Thanks! Imagine watching a movie you like once vs many times. You're going to change how you think about it.
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I'm glad the parents were beat until they were red.
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https://twitter.com/Amandycat/status/1042552698778923010
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I can believe a PhD student did that, but the students' responses are all certainly in her head. I have never seen a teacher play a song for the class that evoked any kind of response other than awkward silence and glancing around like "is she really going to play the whole thing?". It's lazy "teaching", she might as well have thrown mrs doubtfire on the tv like a high school teacher that needs to sleep off a hangover, it would have taught them just as much (nothing).
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Good song tho
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Ugh, is there a reason why this person that claims to be a teacher is so against using punctuation at the ends of sentences?
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