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Ritznit
Dec 19, 2012

I'm crackers for cheese.

Ultra Carp

Sordas Volantyr posted:

Are the Twin Grakatas acceptable, in the name of maximum dakka?

Twin Graks are Clem-approved, and thus great. I've built mine to be wonderful bullet hoses of death. The only way I could love them more would be a riven.

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hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Sordas Volantyr posted:

Are the Twin Grakatas acceptable, in the name of maximum dakka?

They're great, go for it. I couldn't stand the reload time after a while but ymmv.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp
Gun Saliva
On the subject of Grineer weapons, I picked up a 400% damage Twin Gremlins Riven the other day. That should be a good time on the new Prisma ones.

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived
is the nezha rework in yet?

aegof
Mar 2, 2011

Martout posted:

is the nezha rework in yet?

Yes and it's great.

gaj70
Jan 26, 2013

Kyrosiris posted:

That said if you use a frame like Titania, Excalibur, Mesa, etc., you still have to bring the sniper rifle or bow or whatever, but you sure as hell don't have to use it.
****

On a similar note, the optimal strategy in many/most sorties is crowd control (Limbo, Mirage, nova, etc) or content skipping (e.g., loki, Ivara).

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived

aegof posted:

Yes and it's great.

gently caress yes it's like my fav frame for just doing regular stuff

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Martout posted:

gently caress yes it's like my fav frame for just doing regular stuff

Enjoy having your favorite frame being blessed by Pablo. It's great.

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.





gaj70 posted:

On a similar note, the optimal strategy in many/most sorties is crowd control (Limbo, Mirage, nova, etc) or content skipping (e.g., loki, Ivara).

My most used sortie frame (excepting solo spy missions as Loki) is definitely Inaros, for all of these reasons. I posted my build earlier in the thread,



Speed, survivability and crowd control in one package, with on-demand healing and effortless energy management. If you're nervous about sorties or unsure how to approach a certain condition, he's a dependable choice.

FunkyFjord
Jul 18, 2004



Pretty sure I love everything about the Nezha rework.

Chakram is still super wonky with any connection lag at all, but that's the only negative.

E: When you're first stepping in to sorties take your most survivable frame. This will give you a good idea of what sorties expect of you. Rhino, Inaros, Nidus, whatever you have that has a real easy time staying alive. From here you'll have an idea of what type of firepower, what type of CC, etc, you'll need to bring in order to deal with stuff. Expect Grineer and Corrupted to shred you like nowhere else, but if you can get by in that arm of the void that does extra damage then you shouldn't have much of a problem dealing with the damage sortie enemies can put out.

FunkyFjord fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Sep 18, 2018

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
You can just bring a trinity and your killingest gun and stand around making yourself and your team invincible and full on energy until your more aware of what to do.

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010

Echophonic posted:

On the subject of Grineer weapons, I picked up a 400% damage Twin Gremlins Riven the other day. That should be a good time on the new Prisma ones.

Oh so this is why everyone on PS4 is making GBS threads themselves trying to get a riven for these. Are they even released on PC yet? Seems like they’re blowing their wad way too early

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.





They're on PC and they're good as heck - I'd be clamoring for a riven if I didn't already have a glut of riven'd machine pistols

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

You can just bring a trinity and your killingest gun and stand around making yourself and your team invincible and full on energy until your more aware of what to do.
That's the other thing to bear in mind, the other players will be eternally grateful if you can fuel their rampages.

Another perfectly acceptable sortie technique is to find a murderframe like Mirage, and follow them around giving them enough energy to kill the entire level.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Any guess on when us PS4 untermensch are getting the Nezha rework?

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010
Do not become addicted to the update, it will take hold of you and you will resent its absence.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Raptor1033 posted:

Oh so this is why everyone on PS4 is making GBS threads themselves trying to get a riven for these. Are they even released on PC yet? Seems like they’re blowing their wad way too early

I can confirm that they are not blowing their wad to early.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

please tag your pornography thanks

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Bobby Deluxe posted:

please tag your pornography thanks

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
My biggest regret is not being able to reach MR 11 before Baro comes this week and presumably brings those twin gremlins to ps4.

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

Kyrosiris posted:

For maximum hilarity, pair Mirage with Lenz.

Literally all the time. The best way to play.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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broke: the lenz

woke: scattershot tribes-esque fusion mortar spray from the phantasma that follows up with an angry hornet's nest worth of plasma seekers

Avulsion
Feb 12, 2006
I never knew what hit me

Johnny Joestar posted:

broke: the lenz

woke: scattershot tribes-esque fusion mortar spray from the phantasma that follows up with an angry hornet's nest worth of plasma seekers

If you mod it for extra magazine size you get a bigger mortar with even more plasma seekers.

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013
Waitwaitwait, there's a Hek with more than 4 shots?! And it's with Steel Meridian?? drat, I really should have taken a deeper look at the rewards instead of just picking for flavor.

Welp, sorry nerdbot mom, looks like I'm hopping over to Steel Meridian for a bit. I NEED me a better Hek so I can get rid of this drat 2 shot Tigris.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Vaykor.

There are those that are unsure if the Vaykor is superior to the base hek with the Justice mod. It depends on what you want to do with it.





At least til Hek Wraith / Prisma is released.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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...



it's kind of a moot point anyways because they're both good

in fact most shotguns in the game are pretty drat good

also the phantasma counts as a shotgun too have i posted enough about this dumb thing already it's good build it you fucks

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
phantasma is what happens when an ogris and and ignis have a drunken night of passion

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013

Synthbuttrange posted:

Vaykor.

There are those that are unsure if the Vaykor is superior to the base hek with the Justice mod. It depends on what you want to do with it.





At least til Hek Wraith / Prisma is released.

I adore the base Hek, it's one of my favorite guns. But only having 4 shots just kind of irks me. If Vaykor Hek is literally just the same gun but with an extended magazine (stat sheet says 8 round mag) then I will be the happiest space anime.

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

phantasma is what happens when an ogris and and ignis have a drunken night of passion

Or an embolist and a zarr

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

The only thing I don't like about the Phantasma is that I can't put Hunter Munitions on it... and that I don't have 6 formas for it right now.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Flytrap posted:

I adore the base Hek, it's one of my favorite guns. But only having 4 shots just kind of irks me. If Vaykor Hek is literally just the same gun but with an extended magazine (stat sheet says 8 round mag) then I will be the happiest space anime.

Worth noting that Vaykor Hek can not use Shattered Justice. I think the math says that without primed mods, base Hek is a teensy bit better, before you take reload into consideration?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Master all weapons.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

...
...



Gonkish posted:

The only thing I don't like about the Phantasma is that I can't put Hunter Munitions on it... and that I don't have 6 formas for it right now.

good news, since you probably want like 3 elemental dualtstats anyways for the 100% status chance (since it's super easy to get to that) you don't have to forma much to get it fully kitted out

also HM would suck on it because in exchange for being so cool it has unearthly lovely amounts of crit

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013

Kyrosiris posted:

Worth noting that Vaykor Hek can not use Shattered Justice. I think the math says that without primed mods, base Hek is a teensy bit better, before you take reload into consideration?

Well I do have a Primed Point Blank and a maxed out Hell's Chamber which should help even it up. Honestly ammo economy is just a really big deal for me, so 8 rounds vs 4 is a dealbreaker.

The only weapon with a small mag I use regularly is the Zarr, and that's mostly because the reload on that is so absurd that it might as well just have infinite ammo.

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

Johnny Joestar posted:

good news, since you probably want like 3 elemental dualtstats anyways for the 100% status chance (since it's super easy to get to that) you don't have to forma much to get it fully kitted out

also HM would suck on it because in exchange for being so cool it has unearthly lovely amounts of crit

Yeah, one forma to add another V polarity is all it needs unless you have a riven.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Jumping on to say the Phantasma owns bones, both in general and specifically with Mirage. It's super easy to make, only MR 9, and is easy to make it optimal. You don't even need the electric 60/60 to get it to 100% status if you don't have it. Glorious.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

Flytrap posted:

Waitwaitwait, there's a Hek with more than 4 shots?! And it's with Steel Meridian?? drat, I really should have taken a deeper look at the rewards instead of just picking for flavor.

Welp, sorry nerdbot mom, looks like I'm hopping over to Steel Meridian for a bit. I NEED me a better Hek so I can get rid of this drat 2 shot Tigris.

Just want to mention since nobody else did the syndicate weapons are tradeable, you don't have to drop your other syndicate reputation if you want to get them, just keep ranking up the right side factions and then trade one of their weapons for a vaykor hek or pay the 40ish plat someone is selling it for on the market.

wid
Sep 7, 2005
Living in paradise (only bombed once)

Flytrap posted:

Well I do have a Primed Point Blank and a maxed out Hell's Chamber which should help even it up. Honestly ammo economy is just a really big deal for me, so 8 rounds vs 4 is a dealbreaker.

The only weapon with a small mag I use regularly is the Zarr, and that's mostly because the reload on that is so absurd that it might as well just have infinite ammo.

Have you tried Strun Wraith?
I like it better than Tigris Prime even.

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Just want to mention since nobody else did the syndicate weapons are tradeable, you don't have to drop your other syndicate reputation if you want to get them, just keep ranking up the right side factions and then trade one of their weapons for a vaykor hek or pay the 40ish plat someone is selling it for on the market.

I've been leveling nothing but Suda and Hexis, most of the right side already hate me. Heck, helping Steel is the first time in a while that the Red Veil has been anything but maxed out red with me.


wid posted:

Have you tried Strun Wraith?
I like it better than Tigris Prime even.

It look good on the wiki, but it's a random drop from invasions so it's prolly gonna be a while until I can see it given my terrible luck with this stuff.

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Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Was one up last week, but they can be traded for 40ish plat for the full set again, if your hard up on platinum pretty much everything gathered or from bounties like lenses and axi relics or rare mods on the plains is worth decent amount of plat to lazy people or running dragon key groups for corrupted mods to use/sell.

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