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Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read
Does anyone here have a team of remote devs? We have a group in Europe (seperate company but the company has a contract with us) that works opposite hours of our devs and last year a decision was made to bring their development machines in-house. Previously they were just using whatever machines they had in their office. This wasn't great since we essentially had no way of ensuring security on their end with them checking out code to their local machines, access our DBs over VPN, etc.

So previous boss had us setup a Horizon VDI environment. This eventually devolved into building fat VMs with static user assignments, as Visual Studio and their myriad of other dev tools did not play nice with a lot of the Horizon tooling. So at this point we are using Horizon as a glorified remote desktop gateway for a bunch of VMs. Now that we are starting some mobile app dev the users are running into performance issues with building and using the android emulator. So now there's talk of moving to physical desktops in house, which seems bad for us but would at the very least guarantee performance.

Does anyone have any input on this cluster? One thought was shipping them desktops with some sort of MDM/management agent so we would at least guarantee AV presence/encryption/Windows Update regularity and we would retain ownership of the desktop/all data in the end. This is for a group of like 15 people so its not a huge environment by any means.

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Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Why not just send them the same thing as your non-remote devs use?

Weedle
May 31, 2006




64bit_Dophins posted:

The other guy is some weirdo gun nut that says offensive things (I should also note he has a military style backpack with a "don't tread on me" badge on it) and brags about "seeing" "millennial" girls in their mid 20s.

“Seeing” them as they cross the street to avoid him probably

Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read

Inspector_666 posted:

Why not just send them the same thing as your non-remote devs use?

That is what I was thinking, send them a desktop but ensure it has some sort of management agent and bitlocker turned on for security.

CerealKilla420
Jan 3, 2014

"I need a handle man..."

Weedle posted:

“Seeing” them as they cross the street to avoid him probably

Lol I would hope so. Ever since I got hired here I've intentionally avoided that guy because even from a distance he gave me the creeps.

He also talks in a way that leads me to believe that he has "facebook brain".

Oyster
Nov 11, 2005

I GOT FLAT FEET JUST LIKE MY HERO MEGAMAN
Total Clam

nielsm posted:

gently caress printers.

We have a long-standing issue where HP printers go into an error state when they receive print jobs produced by Internet Explorer from a web-based document management system. Various printer models, all using a HP Universal PCL6 driver.
How the gently caress can a web page cause IE to produce a printjob that DoS'es a printer, until the job is deleted from the queue?

Various Xerox models have this issue too, and it's fixed by updating the software to something post-2015.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

So, I'm going out of town this weekend and went to drop off my dog at my parents last night; on the way there my mom stopped responding to texts, but I was like eh whatever maybe she's busy.

Oh, she was busy, their dog attacked a skunk and got hosed up, it apparently looked like someone sprayed dijon mustard on the whole front and side of her face. After she got sprayed, she ran back inside and proceeded to rub her face on the carpet before my brother could grab her and drag her back outside to wash off.

I got there and it was bad, really bad, this is probably the 6 or 7 skunk incident over the past 20 years and is by far the worst; I helped toss a carpet outside and clean a few things and got the gently caress out of there. My brother currently lives there with his 8.5 months pregnant wife while their house is being remodeled, his wife is extremely displeased. The nice thing was my dog did not give any fucks and was happy to be there with his dog friend.

PBS
Sep 21, 2015

MF_James posted:

So, I'm going out of town this weekend and went to drop off my dog at my parents last night; on the way there my mom stopped responding to texts, but I was like eh whatever maybe she's busy.

Oh, she was busy, their dog attacked a skunk and got hosed up, it apparently looked like someone sprayed dijon mustard on the whole front and side of her face. After she got sprayed, she ran back inside and proceeded to rub her face on the carpet before my brother could grab her and drag her back outside to wash off.

I got there and it was bad, really bad, this is probably the 6 or 7 skunk incident over the past 20 years and is by far the worst; I helped toss a carpet outside and clean a few things and got the gently caress out of there. My brother currently lives there with his 8.5 months pregnant wife while their house is being remodeled, his wife is extremely displeased. The nice thing was my dog did not give any fucks and was happy to be there with his dog friend.

If the dog's made that mistake more than once it's dumb as rocks.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

PBS posted:

If the dog's made that mistake more than once it's dumb as rocks.

This is the 3rd time this dog has had a skunk incident, but she never got hit in the face before, once it might not have even gotten her and the other time it got on her back legs a little; hopefully she has learned a lesson this time. Apparently she didn't even want to go outside this morning, so perhaps she has.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
poo poo pissing me off.

I don't have a dog.

:(

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

dogstile posted:

poo poo pissing me off.

I don't have a dog.

:(

Rescue a dog! There are tons out there that need a family and love!

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



MF_James posted:

This is the 3rd time this dog has had a skunk incident, but she never got hit in the face before, once it might not have even gotten her and the other time it got on her back legs a little; hopefully she has learned a lesson this time. Apparently she didn't even want to go outside this morning, so perhaps she has.

If she’s anything like my old dog, she hasn’t. My dog when I was a teenager thought skunks were cats and wanted to be friends.

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.

dogstile posted:

poo poo pissing me off.

I don't have a dog.

:(
Username plus post = :smith:

Take my rotten rat terrier. I used to like dogs, she's cured me of that old habit.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



22 Eargesplitten posted:

If she’s anything like my old dog, she hasn’t. My dog when I was a teenager thought skunks were cats and wanted to be friends.

Yeah, Big Dog needed to re-learn his lesson every year.

Now that he's passed, Little Dog is determined to carry on the tradition. She's been hit at least three times this summer.

They're both dumb as posts about the strangest things.

Also, as long as you can get to the dog prior to the oils drying on their skin, this solution was developed by a chemist and really, really works. You can also buy premade of this these days. I find Nature's Miracle version works pretty drat well.

http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/dogs/tips/de-skunking_dog.html

quote:

1 quart of 3-percent hydrogen peroxide (available at any pharmacy)
1/4 cup baking soda
1 teaspoon liquid dishwashing soap

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


PBS posted:

If the dog's made that mistake more than once it's dumb as rocks.

My big ol dummy of a German Sheppard would constantly come home with wounds from Echidna spines on her nose and face. Stupidest thing in the world sometimes. Her daily game was chasing butterfly shadows and pouncing on them, this knocked out most of her front teeth.

She was a rescue from the police after failing some tests half way through training (loud noises sent her ballistic), so we got a highly trained dog that I could give non-verbal commands (hand signals) to fake attack friends etc. Didn't need a leash and would even grasp my hand in her mouth when we crossed the street. But loving Echidnas, butterflies and cows turned the brain into mush.

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

This is kinda pissing me off? I'm not sure of the best thread to post this in so I'm trying here. According to this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-manual

quote:

There are several scenarios in which you may not be able (or want) to, install WSL Linux distros via the Microsoft Store. Specifically, you may be running a Windows Server or Long-Term Servicing (LTSB/LTSC) desktop OS SKU that doesn't support Microsoft Store,
That's me. I did the enable the feature running this in an admin powershell window
code:
PS C:\> Enable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux
Path          : 
Online        : True
RestartNeeded : False
which seems to go fine.

However when I go to install Ubuntu I get "The Windows Subsystem for Linux optional component is not enabled. Please enable it and try again." What do?

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Coredump posted:

However when I go to install Ubuntu I get "The Windows Subsystem for Linux optional component is not enabled. Please enable it and try again." What do?

That’s in ‘add/remove features’ somewhere, not the store.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



EoRaptor posted:

That’s in ‘add/remove features’ somewhere, not the store.

That's what his PowerShell command did. Enabled the feature.

Did you restart afterwards? I think the feature doesn't properly indicate it needs a reboot to work properly.

(Also, while I don't know what your goal is, afaik WSL officially isn't intended for any kind of production use. It isn't hardened for running public services, only meant for development use. Unless something changed.)

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Coredump posted:

quote:

There are several scenarios in which you may not be able (or want) to, install WSL Linux distros via the Microsoft Store. Specifically, you may be running a Windows Server or Long-Term Servicing (LTSB/LTSC) desktop OS SKU that doesn't support Microsoft Store,

That's me.
I'm gonna bold a very important part in the article you said you read.

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

nielsm posted:

Did you restart afterwards? I think the feature doesn't properly indicate it needs a reboot to work properly.

(Also, while I don't know what your goal is, afaik WSL officially isn't intended for any kind of production use. It isn't hardened for running public services, only meant for development use. Unless something changed.)
The first time it failed I restarted afterwards. Same result.

anthonypants posted:

I'm gonna bold a very important part in the article you said you read.
Yeah the point the article addresses is if you can't install via the windows store. They provide the download links and steps to manually install in the article for servers and desktops.

That Dang Lizard
Jul 13, 2016

what; an idiomt
Double check all the hyper-v stuff is installed and working, I vaguely recall that being a prerequisite? and then you actually have to download a linux distro from the microsoft store app.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

We're in our most profitable year ever, this year. But we want to send this out to our suppliers:

quote:

Good Morning,

Financial Controller mentioned you thought we should send a letter to our suppliers asking for ways to help reduce cost. I agree and both FC and I feel it would be best to have it come from operations as my team will be working with them. Below is a draft of what I would send out. Let me know what you think.


Dear Supplier:

One of ABC’s goals is “Win-Win Partnerships” and we take this very seriously. We value all of our suppliers on our team and are looking for your help. Over the last year we have had a few significant cost increases and we are looking for your help to reduce costs if possible. We want to make sure that any ways we can save money work for both of us. We are open to any and all ideas you have to help with this and look forward to working with you on this. Some ideas could be things like different packaging, or a design change to a part.

Thank you for continuing to help grow ABCs business and being a valued member of our team.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Helpdesk guy is troubleshooting a mouse issue with a remote user.

Currently trying to explain the difference between HDMI and USB when checking if the mouse is connected.

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.

Thanatosian posted:

Why are you allowing people to sync their phones to it?

Executives :homebrew:


Mr. Clark2 posted:

Never really used folder redirection so this may be a dumb question but...do file screens and quotas not work on folder redirections?

He doesn't want to set a quota because users would have a fit. :sigh:

Honestly, I'd much rather just move to a Home Drive for putting documents and turn off redirection entirely but that won't ever happen.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Bob Morales posted:

We're in our most profitable year ever, this year. But we want to send this out to our suppliers:

I'll be honest, I was expecting you to be asking them for retrospective discounts as that seems to be the rear end in a top hat thing to do these days.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

spog posted:

I'll be honest, I was expecting you to be asking them for retrospective discounts as that seems to be the rear end in a top hat thing to do these days.

We (successfully) did that when we almost went broke in 2000 or something

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

poo poo not pissing me off: I'm finally getting rid of the anemic W550s, ordered a new P52 today :toot:

Cinebench score is 214 vs 1200 :haw:

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.

Bob Morales posted:

Helpdesk guy is troubleshooting a mouse issue with a remote user.

Currently trying to explain the difference between HDMI and USB when checking if the mouse is connected.
"Wait, there are HDMI mice available? Order 6 for the conference room immediately!"

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

MF_James posted:

Rescue a dog! There are tons out there that need a family and love!

I will when I get out of a flat. Its not big enough and I refuse to take in a dog that would be cooped up all the time. When I can work from home (and actually live in a house) i'll gladly have a doggo friend.

It's been 2 years since I last had a dog, the only 2 years of my life where i've not had one. It's loving weird :(

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


The Macaroni posted:

"Wait, there are HDMI mice available? Order 6 for the conference room immediately!"

I swear there were auxiliary pins in HDMI that in theory could be used for keyboard and mouse but no one ever implemented it, or am I thinking of dp?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

All the pins are "claimed" on HDMI, but maybe you could run a keyboard using the CEC pin. But you'd be a bad engineer for doing this as anything more than a "look at this trick I did!" demonstration.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.
Has anyone managed to get Ubuntu 18 to launch from WDS?

Because getting Ubuntu 18 (or any other flavor for that matter) to install from WDS is pissing me off.

I have WDS up and running and it successfully launches Windows flavors as well as memtest. But the Ubuntu installation shits the bed with a whole bunch of "No such file or directory" errors.

:argh:


But what's not pissing me off is that the electrician has finished the cat-5 pulls and I now have sweet, sweet gigE to the TV, and both of our offices in our house. Setting all of my poo poo back up made me laugh when I realized that all the stuff in my house could easily be a full time job for a Systems Engineer for a SMB. VMware? SAN Storage? AD? Deployment automation? Monitoring? Multi-tier on-prem / cloud infrastructure? Exchange? Backups? And printers. gently caress printers.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

dogstile posted:

I will when I get out of a flat. Its not big enough and I refuse to take in a dog that would be cooped up all the time. When I can work from home (and actually live in a house) i'll gladly have a doggo friend.

It's been 2 years since I last had a dog, the only 2 years of my life where i've not had one. It's loving weird :(

Yeah I wanted to wait till we got a house but my fiancee convinced me to rescue our guy now that we're in a 3-BR apartment. We don't have any sort of yard which really bothers me, but he's definitely happier than he was at the shelter.

stevewm
May 10, 2005
Well.. One of our 2016 terminal servers in our TS farm decided to restart itself to install an update right smack in the middle of the day.

Despite GPOs set to not allow this, they where completely ignored. Even verified the GPOs where applying, and the the Update settings screen shows restarts are disabled.


Bonus: Once the update restart was initiated, all users were logged off, but the server never updated the TS session broker nor did it remove itself from the farm. So the session broker was still dutifully attempting to redirect users to the TS that was unavailable. Double bonus: I was unable to open remote desktop collection management in Server Manager, nor could I manage the session broker via powershell during this time, I guess cause the session broker was stalled trying to communicate with a server that was not available.

On Server 2008 R2, initiating a restart causes logged off sessions to be immediately removed from the TS broker database and then the restarting server removes itself from the farm.

WTF Microsoft.

PS: The old Remote Desktop MMC was soooo much faster and better than the poo poo that is server manager.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Agrikk posted:

Has anyone managed to get Ubuntu 18 to launch from WDS?

$oldJob used WDS to network boot some Linux tools using syslinux to bootstrap them.

This was pre UEFI, so no idea what the best method would be these days.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

pixaal posted:

I swear there were auxiliary pins in HDMI that in theory could be used for keyboard and mouse but no one ever implemented it, or am I thinking of dp?

xzzy posted:

All the pins are "claimed" on HDMI, but maybe you could run a keyboard using the CEC pin. But you'd be a bad engineer for doing this as anything more than a "look at this trick I did!" demonstration.

In the original spec there is an unused reserved pin (#14). This is used for the audio return channel in later versions, and can also be paired with the hot-plug pin to deliver 100mbit/sec ethernet.

You could run any kind of data over that pin if you wanted to, or just be lazy and convert it to ethernet and go from there.

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

stevewm posted:

PS: The old Remote Desktop MMC was soooo much faster and better than the poo poo that is server manager.
One coworker (of 4 of us) uses Server Manager, saying "It's what Microsoft wants us to use now."

No, Microsoft wants you to use PowerShell, and they made Server Manager a pile of salty garbage to underscore that fact.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Yep. I cancelled my personal Comcast account, pretty simple after I said I was getting gig speeds for $50/mo, and yes I had tested it. Then I get a letter with a bill for the month after I cancelled and it had auto paid. Thankfully they actually refunded it, I made sure I had a copy of the cancellation email in case they tried to deny it.

Still going to keep an eye out for more charges.

From a few pages back, but: Comcast has the stupidest system ever, where if you use auto pay you have to specifically tell them to cancel that as well, otherwise they will continue to charge you each month even though you have no service anymore.

I learned this when I cancelled my comcast service and then moved to Japan. A few months later my parents were getting letters from the bank the auto pay was linked to about my account being overdrawn, because Comcast kept charging me for 3 months after I cancelled service and wasn't even in the country anymore.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Pissing me off: board members who insist on using their personal email accounts instead of company ones provided by us.

The Chairman uses his btinternet.com address and some email sent to him is being bounced back as spam.
He can receive mail sent directly from our email accounts, but when he's included in a distribution list of the same domain it gets bounced with the message "Your message looks like SPAM or has been reported as SPAM "

The response from BT was a screenshot of mxtoolbox.com saying we had invalid spf records, but all it shows is a warning for too many included lookups (12)
Quick sanity check: is that complete bullshit that makes no sense?

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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

bitterandtwisted posted:

The response from BT was a screenshot of mxtoolbox.com saying we had invalid spf records, but all it shows is a warning for too many included lookups (12)
Quick sanity check: is that complete bullshit that makes no sense?

We had plenty of issues when spf pointed at more than one include value, can you use a virtual address for your email server farm? AFAIK spf supports TXT dns values that could include multiple addresses.

SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Sep 19, 2018

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