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Also, Astolfo has had a few buffs over on JP that aren't in NA yet. And he's Quick-based, which means he works pretty well alongside the recently released Skadi-Scathach.
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doomfunk posted:I think Martha is rated so highly because she makes a good non-Caster support, probably. The debuff cleanse alone is probably more valuable down the road than it seems right now in NA. She has a buff eraser+def down and can spam her np for another def down on everyone. She's in a pretty good place right now in my opinion.
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https://twitter.com/ainezuiro/status/1042383332862914560 why is the best ce of the event the freaking exp fodder ce
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Sep 19, 2018 13:32
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I'm here to make the post about how the Penth CE is actually the best There I did it
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Sep 19, 2018 13:33
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It’s so that you can have a page full of them without spending a dime
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Sep 19, 2018 14:14
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Crasical posted:Tamacat is bad and Fran is in the same tier as Herakles. Astolfo gets a 50% np charge, which automatically makes them useful regardless of other shortcomings. And yea, Skadi's presence definitely helps. Orion still has use outside of male sabers because of charge reduction, and anti-male is really strong anyways when half the enemies in the game are male. Beo and Tamamo Cat have to be looked at in the context of other 4* berserkers, which are all pretty much better at everything they already do. Fran and Zerkerlot are hugely superior farmers/waveclearers to Tamamo Cat, and literally every other buster berserker is better than Beo, even the lower rarity ones.
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Captain Baal posted:I'm here to make the post about how the Penth CE is actually the best 
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I mean you should also consider you're looking at a tier list of general content, which is why some servants end up higher than could be expected to in some cases. For instance, Kintoki is in S-Tier on that side because the majority of the game's content that tier list would encompass is wave killing, story boss smashing, and farming. Kintoki is good at all three of these things in a general contest because he is a big Zerker who press red button and delete thing. However, when you move to the challenge quests or the more difficult story bosses he loses relevance significantly due to his entire toolkit being made for a burst servant and the break mechanic largely slowing that down to the point it's absurdly neutered him and most of the games challenge content has the break mechanic on something. That being said a lot of the specific characters you are looking at have ratings that do transfer between both pretty decently, but it's still worth remembering.
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crit anything is a good class to be in, and arts crit is decent because its basically the most np spam possible, nursery's only real flaws are her lack of stargen, her lack of a self-arts buff and her aoe np. queen of sheba is probably one of the best offensive casters in the game besides sieg and shes even more all in on the crit gimmick.
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the_steve posted:I'm not even kidding, if they released an Unlimited Burger Works apron, I would buy it to wear for when I cook. My wife got me from the chicken place in Breaking Bad. But, yeah, Unlimited Burger Works would be an instant buy.
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Sep 19, 2018 15:08
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Good thing there's about a week between Nerofest ending in NA and Gilfest ending in JP because grinding two lotteries at the same time makes my brain hurt.
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Shiny777 posted:46 and a half boxes in, and for the first time in I don't know how long -maybe ever?- I'm out of apples. Gold and silver ones, at least, probably have about a hundred of the bronze ones waiting to get chewed through eventually, but the heaviest grinding's over without the better ones. Hope there's a decent way to grind mountains of stockings even close to this fast when Christmas 2 rolls around. YggdrasilTM posted:Currently on box 36, 23 gold apples left How many apples did you guys use or start with? I need about 55 boxes to get all the QP I need for my projects plus refill my reserves to instant lvl 100 10/10/10 Ishtar. I doubt I'll get there. Got distracted by Ophelia in FEH and Laharl in a Disgaea collab for another game.
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Since I finally got Waver I finally got a proper 3 turn Skadi system going with my Lancelot. It’s quite satisfying, and there’s so much room for event CEs!
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Trihugger posted:How many apples did you guys use or start with? I need about 55 boxes to get all the QP I need for my projects plus refill my reserves to instant lvl 100 10/10/10 Ishtar. I doubt I'll get there. Got distracted by Ophelia in FEH and Laharl in a Disgaea collab for another game. The 18 we got from the ultra-long hell maintenance at the start of the event brought me up to 42 gold apples going in, no silver or bronze apples at the start. I'm now 48 boxes in and about 3/4 of the way to enough petals to buy out box 49, and have spent in total 54 golden apples, 16 silver, and 85 bronze apples getting here.
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Trihugger posted:How many apples did you guys use or start with? I need about 55 boxes to get all the QP I need for my projects plus refill my reserves to instant lvl 100 10/10/10 Ishtar. I doubt I'll get there. Got distracted by Ophelia in FEH and Laharl in a Disgaea collab for another game. I started with like 130 and am down to 60 apples. Just figure on about 2 apples per box
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Nate RFB posted:I can't pretend to know the thinking behind appmedia If you run a given page through google translate, they do a pretty good breakdown of pluses and minuses that helps contextualize things a lot. It just takes some time getting used to the usual suite of odd turns of phrase that GT likes to use now and again, but generally it's at least understandable why a character is ranked where they are. Tamamo Cat in particular gets a big hit just by virtue of being a healing focused zerker instead of having literally any other means of survivability.
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I had over 170 apples after the maintenance fiasco. But I can't spend them fast enough. Not enough time in the day and probably sub optimal team loadout. It takes about 9 turns for me to clear out the petal node. Although now I'm wasting time trying to refresh the friend list for the different medal CEs to show up. I think I'm going to clear out the Fous, lamps, and scarabs before I stay firmly in the lotto grind.
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Sep 19, 2018 21:06
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All the CEs are legitimately really good this time art wise, i m o. Overall probably my favorites in a little while. sorry seravfest.
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drat, I'm just now getting around to leveling Helena's skills and they're pretty drat good aside from the long cooldowns. I should have been working on her since I picked her up from the Prisma event
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Sep 19, 2018 22:04
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Switching Chloe for Tristan makes the farming a bit slower, but he's really good too and I like him. Tristan's really good.
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Sep 19, 2018 23:25
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Level 100 Taiga is good civilization.
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Who are some good servants that go well with Tamamo? I'm currently playing around with Medea and EMIYA
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Stairmaster posted:Who are some good servants that go well with Tamamo? I'm currently playing around with Medea and EMIYA Basically any single target arts servant goes well with her.
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Stairmaster posted:Who are some good servants that go well with Tamamo? I'm currently playing around with Medea and EMIYA Do they have an offensive Arts Noble Phantasm? Then they go well with Tamamo
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Stairmaster posted:Who are some good servants that go well with Tamamo? I'm currently playing around with Medea and EMIYA Nero Bride, Mordred Surfer, Lancelot Saber, Chloe, a second Tamamo plus one of the others listed. Anyone who is arts based and likes to reduce their skill cds.
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Welp, brought Shiki, Carmilla and Jack to fight Medb. Completely forgot the last two enemies were Celtric Druids (Caster). Thank god I put Ibaraki in my last slot.
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Dr Pepper posted:Do they have an offensive Arts Noble Phantasm? Defensive NPs go well with Tamamo too. For example, you could probably beat every Exhibition Match with Mash, Tamamo, Tamamo. You wouldn't want to, but you could.
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Stairmaster posted:Who are some good servants that go well with Tamamo? I'm currently playing around with Medea and EMIYA Anyone with Arts cards, powerful skills, and some damage output (ideally Arts-based). Tamamo's main selling points are her (unique) cooldown-reducing NP and her targetable Arts card buff. To make use of that, you'll want to pair her with someone who has strong skills that benefit from being fired off more often and relies heavily on Arts cards for their damage output. Meanwhile, her weak points are a lack of damage output, no crit stuff whatsoever, and surprisingly poor Arts gain despite her three Arts cards. To make up for those, you'll need to pair her with people who have plenty of Arts cards (because she needs those Arts chains) but can still do some damage despite that. You'll notice that "how to take advantage of her strengths" and "how to mitigate her weaknesses" are very similar descriptions; that's why people say she's strong but picky about her team comps. Unlike someone like Waver, she doesn't have a versatile kit that can contribute at least something to any team, but she's a powerful Arts support.
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Stairmaster posted:Who are some good servants that go well with Tamamo? I'm currently playing around with Medea and EMIYA Vlad goes particularly well with her, for a specific recommendation beyond just 'Anyone with an arts CE'. He really wants to fire off his NP as much as possible, and Tamamo has a few ways to help with that (reducing the cooldown on Vampirism, and her NP just directly charges his, also arts effectiveness means increased NP generation). She also provides healing, to help offset Berserker squishiness.
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I did it! The ticket I got from defeating Gil gave me Arjuna! I have now reunited the brothers This is a great thing to go to sleep to.
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Main Paineframe posted:Anyone with Arts cards, powerful skills, and some damage output (ideally Arts-based). Alternatively, go in completely the opposite direction and run something like Tamamo/Jeanne/(Insert healing/defensive Servant here - Medea Lily, Mash, whoever) and proceed to have the team that takes 50 turns to win, but is never in any real danger.
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Lord Koth posted:Alternatively, go in completely the opposite direction and run something like Tamamo/Jeanne/(Insert healing/defensive Servant here - Medea Lily, Mash, whoever) and proceed to have the team that takes 50 turns to win, but is never in any real danger. I find that in practice, this is usually a lot less reliable than just pointing Vlad or Euryale or something at the enemy. When you're not killing any enemies, you're giving them more chances to pop skills or NPs or even just get lucky crits. Sometimes you'll grind them down, but sometimes they'll grind you down, and in tough battles, the numbers favor them in the damage race.
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Threw a ticket at Gil and Sheba, got Valkyrie. I'll take it. also Endorph I sent you a request. I can't remember my exact name tho, but it definitely has Sun in it and I have a grailed summer Raikou on my supports rn.
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26 boxes done, only need 4 more and I’ll have enough Knight Medals for MHXA. Also almost finished getting Bryn to 10/10/10, it’s so nice to actually have some QPEndorph posted:
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Added you both. Also man, this Tawara challenge quest is a clusterfuck.
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Not to past self: Gil's NP down debuff is not removable, so taking the Atlas MC is going to be a literal waste of time/resources.
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