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garycoleisgod
Sep 27, 2004
Boo
I'm actually really curious as to what happened on The Predator. Like, it obviously got hosed with but I want specifics, dammit, we need an autopsy here.

For those who've read the script, the scene with the kiddy fiddler that got cut, did that take place in a park with people walking their dogs? Because that's what I'm guessing, because Olivia Munn's first scene in the film is her in a park getting recruited by some spooks, but the scene just starts, there is no lead in and she doesn't do anything in the scene. Like the things she was supposed to do in the scene (shut down a perv) got cut, so now it's just awkward and weird. An end without a beginning or introduction.

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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That’s the scene yeah. It just sets up who Munn’s character is, and that she doesn’t take poo poo from dumb people who hit on everyone. It’s not like nasty or anything. But it’s not great due to who played them.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Saw The Predator. It’s so incredibly loving dumb. It’s only saving grace is that it’s a short movie and it’s edited so bad that they just skip through all the bullshit and just jump from scene to scene to set piece to scene. Once I realized how disjointed it was I stopped caring and just starting taking each scene by itself and not worrying about shot like story progression. It started as one movie, then detours into an almost comedy then remembers it’s a Predator movie and just starts killing people, then switches to back to some dumb poo poo, then back to action that’s neither good or satisfying.

And the dialogue. Holy poo poo I can’t tell if it was just trying to be cool for the sake of it or if there was more to it but everyone sounds like they’re just equally half assing it and just taking the piss of their characters. There isn’t a single serious character in the movie and whole that may not be a bad thing it just doesn’t have the straight / serious guy to bounce the ridiculousness off.

There were a few parts I liked and I think there’s some cool ideas there that would have been better explored in another movie but all in all it was just real bad.

Thank you, Moviepass, for still being around.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

garycoleisgod posted:

the scene with the kiddy fiddler that got cut
So they cut out the title character? :v:

verdigris murder
Jul 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fallout was not as good as the final shootout in the film with the c sec. I’m posting in real time.

It also starred the swarthy Italy looking guy and the dude from the amazon show Shooter.

verdigris murder
Jul 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Tom Cruise also looks quite plump in quite a few bits.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Payndz posted:

So they cut out the title character? :v:

Hey, it left that little kid alone in the cemetery in 2. Don’t besmirch it’s character!!

brocked
Oct 25, 2005

All shall love me and despair!
Might not be the place to ask, but has anybody watched The Monkey Twins series on Netflix? Trailer looked pretty good to me...

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Here's my Jurassic Park Expanded Cinematic Universe movie pitch: it's a Tremors 4 situation; we go back to the 1870s; it's called Jurassic World: Bone Wars; rival palaeontologists Edward Drinker Cope (James McAvoy) and Othniel Charles Marsh (Vincent D'Onofrio) have to put aside their differences and assemble a team of Civil War veterans and Lakota warriors when their excavations awaken a horde of hibernating dinosaurs which proceed to stampede across the Wild West. Co-starring Nicolas Cage as James Reavis, the Baron of Arizona.

Tell Universal I'll accept cheques or PayPal, but readies will suffice.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Basebf555 posted:

Pretty sure it was in here that someone mentioned Boorman's Point Blank(1967). I watched it last night, definitely check it out if you enjoy "lone badass on quest for revenge" movies because it's definitely a major influence on that subgenre. Not a great "action" movie per se, the action itself isn't overly impressive, but the character work in it is outstanding and it's very nice to look at. But the real draw is Lee Marvin, that dude really had a presence not many can match.

Not sure if you're aware of this but it is actually an adaptation of the first "Parker" novel, The Hunter. Which was also turned into the movie Payback with Mel Gibson and of course the Jason Statham movie, Parker, is also supposed to be the same character as well.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Saw Mile 22 yesterday. Pretty neat that they built an entire action movie around one throw away SNL reference from like 15 years ago.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

I saw The Man Who Feels No Pain the other night and it is loving badass. Great choreography and a surprisingly good story with charm for days.

https://youtu.be/x7z4PB0jwbo

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Bollywood action should be discussed more in this thread. Has Baahubali come up before?

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Basebf555 posted:

Bollywood action should be discussed more in this thread. Has Baahubali come up before?

Even though my parents had Bollywood films on almost constantly growing up, it never caught on with me. I'd love a list of recommendations!

The only one I know offhand is Sholay, in which a dude with no arms fights off an entire army.

FancyMike
May 7, 2007

Apologies, but I'm going to be pedantic for a quick minute here and mention that Baahubali is actually a Tollywood (Telugu) film.

It's also better than all of the Hollywood cg superhero movies imo, and Baahubali 2 was my favorite action movie of 2017, a year full of amazing action.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

FancyMike posted:

Apologies, but I'm going to be pedantic for a quick minute here and mention that Baahubali is actually a Tollywood (Telugu) film.

It's also better than all of the Hollywood cg superhero movies imo, and Baahubali 2 was my favorite action movie of 2017, a year full of amazing action.

Oh that reminds me, I did see the Tollywood film Eega a couple years ago, which is a better version of Ant-Man and has the best training montage this side of Rocky.

https://youtu.be/lbWURFD4vdE

E: The Man Who Feels No Pain just picked up the Midnight Madness award at TIFF, previously won by The Raid. Big upset since it was up against things like the new Halloween and Assassination Nation

https://twitter.com/TIFF_NET/status/1041380441423572992?s=19

flashy_mcflash fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Sep 16, 2018

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

flashy_mcflash posted:

E: The Man Who Feels No Pain just picked up the Midnight Madness award at TIFF, previously won by The Raid. Big upset since it was up against things like the new Halloween and Assassination Nation

https://twitter.com/TIFF_NET/status/1041380441423572992?s=19

Is that really an upset, with those contenders? I always kind of gathered that the Midnight Madness award usually goes to the best thing that doesn't already have a lot of buzz.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Is that really an upset, with those contenders? I always kind of gathered that the Midnight Madness award usually goes to the best thing that doesn't already have a lot of buzz.

Not always, it's an audience award so it really depends on how many eyes get on something during the Festival. Previous winners like Seven Psychopaths, Free Fire, and Bodied all had pretty good buzz going into TIFF.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

FancyMike posted:

Apologies, but I'm going to be pedantic for a quick minute here and mention that Baahubali is actually a Tollywood (Telugu) film.

It's also better than all of the Hollywood cg superhero movies imo, and Baahubali 2 was my favorite action movie of 2017, a year full of amazing action.

There are three different versions of these movies on Netflix. A Hindi, Tamil and Malayalam version. Which should I add to my list?

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Franchescanado posted:

There are three different versions of these movies on Netflix. A Hindi, Tamil and Malayalam version. Which should I add to my list?

If I remember correctly, it's written in Tamil so the Tamil version is the most true to the writer's intent for the dialogue. But I think they may have actually filmed all the scenes in Hindi as well?

FancyMike
May 7, 2007

Franchescanado posted:

There are three different versions of these movies on Netflix. A Hindi, Tamil and Malayalam version. Which should I add to my list?

It's silly that Netflix has three language tracks, but none of them are the original Telugu. I've heard that the Tamil is best and closest, so that's the one I watched and it was fine.

The fun part is when Netflix starts recommending you the movie you just watched, but in a different language.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Hellblazer187 posted:

Saw Mile 22 yesterday. Pretty neat that they built an entire action movie around one throw away SNL reference from like 15 years ago.


I assume.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Edit: I'm actually not sure if that gif is the clip. It might be a take off of the original clip. I dunno how much spoiler is allowed in this thread, but they do make a reference to this and it feels like certain decisions were made to crowbar that in. Should I explain further with spoiler tags?

Not that I'm complaining. I cracked up. I found the movie to be perfectly serviceable for what it was with some pretty good fight scenes as well.

Hellblazer187 fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Sep 18, 2018

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Hellblazer187 posted:

Edit: I'm actually not sure if that gif is the clip. It might be a take off of the original clip. I dunno how much spoiler is allowed in this thread, but they do make a reference to this and it feels like certain decisions were made to crowbar that in. Should I explain further with spoiler tags?

Not that I'm complaining. I cracked up. I found the movie to be perfectly serviceable for what it was with some pretty good fight scenes as well.

Mark Wahlberg talks to animals?

That is from a follow up where Wahlberg pretended that a) had a sense of humour and b) got the joke

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Snowman_McK posted:

Mark Wahlberg talks to animals?

That is from a follow up where Wahlberg pretended that a) had a sense of humour and b) got the joke

Yeah, that's exactly it.

The bad guy says "say hello to your mother for me" to Mark Wahlburg right before having John Malkovich killed, who was codenamed "Mother" throughout the film. I feel like the codenames were chosen specifically so this joke would work. Because otherwise mother is a hosed up codename.

High Warlord Zog
Dec 12, 2012
Re-watched Where Eagles Dare. I keep forgetting how much fun this is. Obviously Clint Eastwood duel wielding machine pistols against endless Nazis inside an exploding castle is awesome. But the caper-ish stuff holds up too. The big midpoint misdirection set-piece where Richard Burton talks circles around the bad guys is wonderful. It's all very Mission Impossible: WWII and I'm surprised that a remake hasn't been floated yet.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

High Warlord Zog posted:

Re-watched Where Eagles Dare. I keep forgetting how much fun this is. Obviously Clint Eastwood duel wielding machine pistols against endless Nazis inside an exploding castle is awesome. But the caper-ish stuff holds up too. The big midpoint misdirection set-piece where Richard Burton talks circles around the bad guys is wonderful. It's all very Mission Impossible: WWII and I'm surprised that a remake hasn't been floated yet.
Where Eagles Dare is one of my all-time favourite movies (I visited Werfen in Austria last year and geeked out in the Berg Hohnenwerfen where it was filmed; the odd thing is that the castle itself makes almost no mention of the movie apart from a single DVD in the gift shop) and I'd be perfectly happy for it to remain exactly as it is, but yeah, a remake is probably inevitable at some point. No idea who you'd cast to get the same combination of bad-boy gravitas and laconic cool as Burton and Eastwood, though. (And there'd probably be the temptation by the writers either to simplify the triple-cross so dullards can understand it, or make it even more convoluted on the grounds that the original version had already been done and they have to put a twist on a twist to surprise audiences.)

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

High Warlord Zog posted:

Re-watched Where Eagles Dare. I keep forgetting how much fun this is. Obviously Clint Eastwood duel wielding machine pistols against endless Nazis inside an exploding castle is awesome. But the caper-ish stuff holds up too. The big midpoint misdirection set-piece where Richard Burton talks circles around the bad guys is wonderful. It's all very Mission Impossible: WWII and I'm surprised that a remake hasn't been floated yet.

Absolutely. I don't think any of those films based on Alistair MacLean books have been remade. Band of misfits doing sneaking around, doing heists/crimes seems like such a no brainer. Wonder if there's some kind of rights issue... or maybe you just make The Expendables, Fast & Furious 8 or Rogue One instead and then you don't have to worry about rights.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

Payndz posted:

No idea who you'd cast to get the same combination of bad-boy gravitas and laconic cool as Burton and Eastwood

They won't try even bother trying and will just cast Tom Hardy and Michael Fassbender

While checking about rights I found out that MacLean is apparently buried yards from Burton. Bless.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

I checked out Guy Ritchie's King Arthur: Legend of the Sword coming home from a trip and it was... pretty good!

It suffered from having to watch it on my phone through the plane's Wi-Fi but I enjoyed it way more than I expected. In terms of how it handles the myth the movie is definitely "what if King Arthur started out as a Guy Ritchie character" but it was a refreshing change because -- and I say this as a King Arthur fan -- he is usually the most boring part of the myth and is saved only by the quest plotlines, other characters, and magical elements. And it was those magical elements that were part of the pleasant surprise. Some of the more off-putting things from the trailer, like the giant elephants, were just a result of high-level sorcery and a lot of it happened so early in the movie that my initial expectation of the movie turning into a big LoTR CG war by the end of the film was unfounded.

In terms of action the major drawback is how reliant the major sword fights are on green screen, visual effects, and CG enemies, but the choreography of Arthur using Excalibur is still exciting.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Yeah I watched it on a lark and it was way better then I thought it would be. There's a problem with CGI weightlessness in it when the Excalibur stuff really gets going but all the character work and scene setups are aces.

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



Legend of the Sword is a fine movie and I don't understand why people hated it so much. My main problem with it was the protracted Guy Richie dialogue that didn't really fit the setting. The movie just stops in its track while a group of characters do an awkwardly self-aware bit.

Also, they should have just made the girl Merlin! She does all the Merlin stuff anyway. It was a golden opportunity to piss off some chuds with a girl Merlin, but instead she's like Merlin's intern.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

pospysyl posted:

Legend of the Sword is a fine movie and I don't understand why people hated it so much. My main problem with it was the protracted Guy Richie dialogue that didn't really fit the setting. The movie just stops in its track while a group of characters do an awkwardly self-aware bit.

Also, they should have just made the girl Merlin! She does all the Merlin stuff anyway. It was a golden opportunity to piss off some chuds with a girl Merlin, but instead she's like Merlin's intern.

I think Merlin not being around can be chalked up to wanting to have the movie be only the first in a six (!) part series where Merlin was going to be introduced later and possibly have his own movie.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Not sure if this counts but my god is Fire Birds with Tommy Lee Jones and Nic Cage one hell of a cheesy helicopter porn knockoff of Top Gun. It’s a perfect double feature with The Substitute as far as ridiculous Drug War action movies go. Jones chews the hell out of the scenery as an aging chopper pilot trainer against Cage, who is just the worst meathead who you wish would die horribly.

My favorite is the bad guy chopper being an American AH-6 Little Bird they call a Scorpion for the sake of melodrama.

Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 19, 2018

High Warlord Zog
Dec 12, 2012

Gravy Jones posted:

They won't try even bother trying and will just cast Tom Hardy and Michael Fassbender

Kenneth Branagh for the Burton role surely.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Taintrunner posted:

Not sure if this counts but my god is Fire Birds with Tommy Lee Jones and Nic Cage one hell of a cheesy helicopter porn knockoff of Top Gun. It’s a perfect double feature with The Substitute as far as ridiculous Drug War action movies go. Jones chews the hell out of the scenery as an aging chopper pilot trainer against Cage, who is just the worst meathead who you wish would die horribly.

My favorite is the bad guy chopper being an American AH-6 Little Bird they call a Scorpion for the sake of melodrama.

Fire Birds is so wonderfully bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwS7MuNCwFs

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

High Warlord Zog posted:

Re-watched Where Eagles Dare. I keep forgetting how much fun this is. Obviously Clint Eastwood duel wielding machine pistols against endless Nazis inside an exploding castle is awesome. But the caper-ish stuff holds up too. The big midpoint misdirection set-piece where Richard Burton talks circles around the bad guys is wonderful. It's all very Mission Impossible: WWII and I'm surprised that a remake hasn't been floated yet.

That middle of the movie set piece at the dining table is one of the cleverest scenes in a spy movie. It made me want to write so that one day I could write a scene that good.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Taintrunner posted:

Not sure if this counts but my god is Fire Birds with Tommy Lee Jones and Nic Cage one hell of a cheesy helicopter porn knockoff of Top Gun. It’s a perfect double feature with The Substitute as far as ridiculous Drug War action movies go.

My definitive Drug War movie is McBain, not the Simpsons one or the one with Gary Busey but the 1991 James Glickenhaus movie with Christopher Walken. Some hero released an excellent Blu Ray as part a series of Grindhouse movies and man, it's everything you could want. Walken seems to be on coke all the time, barely reacting to anything happening around him. His team includes Michael Ironside and Kevin James going up against Victor Argo's El Presidente. The villain has no name beyond 'El Presidente'.

One famous scene is Walken shooting down an F-5 fighter with his pistol and that's just a mild example of the crazy poo poo going on. It was shot in the Philippines and there are some truly impressive action set pieces with hundreds of extras, tanks, aircraft and at least 3 Robocops of deaths in each of them. You also get some rarely seen vehicles are used like the AIFV and SIAI S.211 jet trainer. And it has maybe the first appearance of a Hummer in any movie.

There is also it's very strange politics which is all over the place. On one side it's your standard evil drugs dealers thing but there is also a genuine people's revolution begging the US for support, a scene where a greedy CEO gets punched by Kevin James, a speech by Luis Guzman on how the low level dealers are just victims of the system while Ironside ponders the evils of the arms trade and the US President being completely out of touch with the problem, trying to fix it by introducing new cash money printed in red, white and blue. Oh, and there is a Vietnam bit with an opening song that sounds like it's Joan Baez but is not.

Seriously, this movie is amazing. And on Blu Ray looks pretty good.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

The movie starts with Walken in Vietnam cage-fighting a giant Viet Cong soldier in a cage made of bamboo.

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Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
It's official: Peppermint whips scrote. Loved the heavy use of depth of field in the cinematography and the choppy (that's us. a negative word but I don't know what else to call it) editing through the fight scenes. I assume this was partly to cut around keeping Jennifer Garner doing athletic stuff onscreen to a minimum but it's actually extremely good at giving action gags a satisfying/hilarious punchline. The movie also keeps doing this great thing where somebody gets fatally shot or riddled with bullets and is then, completely gratuitously, shot or stabbed a second time. Like this is one of those movies where I'm the only one laughing at a lot of the kill shots and I kind of feel like a psychopath but I'm pretty sure it was intentional?

Anyway there's a part where Riley North (Garner) breaks into the house of a corrupt judge who set free the men that killed her family---in one shot you see that on his mantle next to a bunch of other tchochkes is a loving katana. Is there a version of this movie where North takes/uses the katana??? Would have owned.

e: also, stank dumb hot take - lol if you think the movie where they outright tell you the protagonist was a psychotic long before the inciting incident that made her go vigilante then has that character gruesomely mutilate people and make displays out of dead bodies is pro Unilaterally Shooting Gangsters

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