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Saladman posted:Do you talk to a lot of people born in Britain in the early 1900s? I know the Ukraine is grammatically acceptable but I don’t think I’ve ever seen it used let alone heard it, except in highfalautin articles and magazines that think they’re so smart that using "whom" and "coöperate" makes them sound intelligent. Or they saw that Seinfeld episode.
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Jerry Cotton posted:That's why you call anyone from the US a Yankee. This would be like calling anyone from the UK "English".
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Sep 19, 2018 11:04
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Grape posted:This would be like calling anyone from the UK "English". Nah, the difference is that we respect Scottish and Welsh people
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Sep 19, 2018 11:12
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Grape posted:This would be like calling anyone from the UK "English". So something to do at every opportunity that won't get you beaten up?
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:When I try to get someone to not say "the Ukraine" and recognize Ukrainians as a fully separate people and not just funny Russians, my go to argument is "Ukrainian is as different from Russian as Dutch is from German, and you don't think the Dutch should be part of Germany now do you??" The proper name is "Garðaríki"
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Jerry Cotton posted:Did Argentinians get all Argentine from latin argentum from Rio de la Plata from the dumbdumb explorers who couldn't understand the natives so they just made some poo poo up about Argentina being full of silver (it isn't). So while saying "the Ukraine" may be offensive to Ukrainians due to the political implications, calling Argentina "the Argentine" isn't actually offensive. Ghost of Mussolini fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:That's why you call anyone from the US a Yankee. GO TO HELL FUCKER. If you want a real demonym for the US do what the mexicans do and call us Estadounidense. You can even make it a joke, "more like estadouniDENSE am i right"
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Sep 19, 2018 14:15
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Yankee go home.
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Sep 19, 2018 14:17
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I think we can call it even and agree on "those fuckers"
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Sep 19, 2018 14:31
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Orange Devil posted:Yankee go home. reported
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Sep 19, 2018 14:44
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The preferred nomenclature is "Septics"
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Sep 19, 2018 15:20
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Yanks are from the US, yankees are from the northeastern US.
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Sep 19, 2018 15:30
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In the 2000s I remember pissing off Americans on forums by calling them "USAns". It was short and convenient, though.
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Cat Mattress posted:In the 2000s I remember pissing off Americans on forums by calling them "USAns". It was short and convenient, though. This is basically what Americans are called in Latin America.
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Sep 19, 2018 15:39
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ekuNNN posted:edit: i know this is not the vexillology thread but i just learned of this official flag for the city of Daejeon, South Korea: 
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DACK FAYDEN posted:this flag is cute as gently caress and we need more like it Disagree. The only dumber version would have been "It's not Seoul!".
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Sep 19, 2018 15:50
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It has a distinctive design and you immediately know what it's for. That's like 2/3 off the bat for flag design.
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Squalid posted:This is basically what Americans are called in Latin America. English has a serious lack of words for nationalities. “United Stater” or “Statesian” sounds dumb, and there’s plenty of countries where we don’t have a word. A german. A russian. But it has to be an englishman, or a frenchman. Then you’ve got China. Saying “a chinaman” or “a chinese” sounds like a racist grandpa. But a korean, that’s fine.
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It's a flag that makes a map unnecessary. You don't have to look at a map to see where you are, just look at the flag!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Saying “a chinaman” or “a chinese” sounds like a racist grandpa. But a korean, that’s fine. Same as how in the UK there's a regular type of letter to the editor going "it's just an abbreviation of the country name, how come saying 'Scot' is fine but saying 'Paki' is racist  "I bet if there were 40 years of Asians beating up English and yelling "go back to Cardiff you Scot bastard" that'd become racist too.
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ekuNNN posted:It's not my fault the English are terrible at language and use the wrong word for Nederlands 
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Sep 19, 2018 16:25
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If your flag is 90's clip art, it's bad
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Sep 19, 2018 16:28
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If your flag is a trademark, it isn't a flag.
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Sep 19, 2018 16:29
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Please everyone knows it's yanqui
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Squalid posted:This is basically what Americans are called in Latin America. Isn’t that just for edgelords and legal documents? EEUU works fine as an abbreviation for documents but saying it out loud sounds only marginally less dumb in Spanish than English. At least in Europe in French i have never heard Americans referred to as « Etats-Unians » except in formal documentation, and even then rarely. My German is pretty bad but I’m also pretty sure Americans are Amerikans and not the mouthful of Vereinigten Staatenvolk Ive lived in Europe for 10 years as an American and not even once has someone pretended not to understand me. No LatAm would ever say "American" here when asked where they’re from unless they’re an edge lord. It’d be like a German person being asked in China where they’re from, who the gently caress would say "Europe"? And that’s a bad example because at least Europe doesn’t have another intersectional and more common meaning. E: come to think of it though my response to where are you originally from is usually « les États Unis » or « the US ». I doubt I’ve ever said I’m from « America ». And outside of legal settings people rarely ask my nationalities. In which case I’d definitely say « American » Saladman fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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In official German „US-Amerikaner“ is often used to avoid just that. Most people will just say „Amerikaner“, though
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Ami go home!
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Saladman posted:Isn’t that just for edgelords and legal documents? EEUU works fine as an abbreviation for documents but saying it out loud sounds only marginally less dumb in Spanish than English. Maybe depending on how you define edgelord. If you speak terrible spanish they probably won't try to correct you if you refer to yourself as an americano, but it definitely gets under their skin. The fact that calling themselves an American in Europe causes confusion is a source of annoyance for many people, who feel the term should refer to themselves as well. There's variation depending on where you are but Americans should definitely use the word estadounidense to refer to themselves in central and South America to be polite. Its kind of a pain because its hard to pronounce, though norteamericano is usually also acceptable. Or you can just call yourself a gringo informally.
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The problem is solved more simply by annexing the whole continent.
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I’m in if we revive the brazilian imperial throne for head of state. I’ve always wanted to have an Emperor.
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fishmech posted:The problem is solved more simply by annexing the whole continent.
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fishmech posted:The problem is solved more simply by annexing the whole continent. FYI everybody, this idiot’s attitude is exactly why Latin Americans don’t like that persons from the United States have an international monopoly on the name American. Calling yourself an americano in Panama or Honduras will make you look just as arrogant and presumptuous as fishmech.
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Squalid posted:FYI everybody, this idiot’s attitude is exactly why Latin Americans don’t like that persons from the United States have an international monopoly on the name American. Calling yourself an americano in Panama or Honduras will make you look just as arrogant and presumptuous as fishmech. How often do people do that? Maybe I'm being too generous but the sort of americans to bother speaking spanish seem like the same sort to recognize why "american=USA" sounds real lovely to the other countries on the continent.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Maybe I'm being too generous but the sort of americans to bother speaking spanish seem like the same sort to recognize why "american=USA" sounds real lovely to the other countries on the continent. There's a reason the words "estadounidense" and "norteamericano" exist, yes. Squalid posted:This is basically what Americans are called in Latin America. Beaten re: "estadounidense."
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:How often do people do that? Probably not that often
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Here in Iceland the official demonym is "Bandaríkjamenn" (United States Men) but "Ameríkanar" (guess) is more colloquial. This is often shortened to "Kanar". This is sometimes combined with other words like "kanasjónvarp"*(Yank Television) or "kanamella"(Yank whore)**. *The tv channel run by the American military base in the postwar period. The first television broadcast in Iceland. Could actually be revived on civilian TVs in a rather large radius until the government demanded that the signal be weakened so foreign filth like Lassie wouldn't lead to the destruction of Icelandic language and culture. **A slur for women who had relations with soldiers from the base. Whether those relations were just a one night stand or marriage/kids and anything in between.
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Squalid posted:Probably not that often Possibly just once
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FreudianSlippers posted:This is often shortened to "Kanar" 
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Squalid posted:FYI everybody, this idiot’s attitude is exactly why Latin Americans don’t like that persons from the United States have an international monopoly on the name American. Calling yourself an americano in Panama or Honduras will make you look just as arrogant and presumptuous as fishmech. Look at this little meltdown over the fact both America and Mexico are officially named United States. Guavanaut posted:That would still only make them North Americans, or possibly some kind of slang word for someone from the North of America. America is only one continent, just like Eurafrica.
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