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President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

it�s like lidar, only using visible spectrum photography. it can somehow build in z values but it can�t penetrate foliage.

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Ellie Crabcakes: Feb 1, 2008; Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

President Beep posted:

not much. phodar deez nuts.

DAMMIT BEEPS

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:25

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:26

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

iospace posted:

*shot freezes, canned laughter*

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:26

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

*roll credits*

yospos is filmed before a live studio audience.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:30

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

the studio audience:

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:34

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

iospace posted:

I see your point

but why the gently caress are you defending a rich person by poking holes in a story making fun of someone who is rich?

it is fascinating how you think calling out an obvious lie based around having a friend at some weird arctic tourist base is "defending the rich".

like sagebrush got a history on these weird little stories that are obviously fake, like when he claimed there was an "african tribe" that punishes murderers by holding them in solitary in "the tents" and then have a ceremony where the murderer is rowed out in a lake and if the victim's family rescues the person from the middle of the lake the "tribe" treats it as if the murder never happened because ~forgiveness~

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:51

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

President Beep posted:

it�s like lidar, only using visible spectrum photography. it can somehow build in z values but it can�t penetrate foliage.

this doesn't make any sense. is it stereoscopic vision, time of flight or what?

# ? Sep 20, 2018 03:00

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

multiple perspectives i think.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 03:02

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

huh, i wonder if a IMU having absolute garbage for 1/3rd of its inputs would possibly do something unexpected

or if "drone magnetic interference" has like a billion DJI forums results whining about piddling things like parking structure rebar rendering drones inoperable without somehow generating a wikipedia entry

but seriously folks, most consumer electronics won't work in extreme temperatures, even automotive grade components only gets you to -40

# ? Sep 20, 2018 03:38

syscall girl: Nov 7, 2009; by FactsAreUseless; Fun Shoe

fishmech posted:

it is fascinating how you think calling out an obvious lie based around having a friend at some weird arctic tourist base is "defending the rich".

like sagebrush got a history on these weird little stories that are obviously fake, like when he claimed there was an "african tribe" that punishes murderers by holding them in solitary in "the tents" and then have a ceremony where the murderer is rowed out in a lake and if the victim's family rescues the person from the middle of the lake the "tribe" treats it as if the murder never happened because ~forgiveness~

uh, im a member and i have the armband to prove it

# ? Sep 20, 2018 03:38

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

i heard about a native american tribe that redeems accused murderers by giving them peyote and tying them to a stump inside a tipi and making them listen to an elder read out fishmech posts until they see their spirit poster

# ? Sep 20, 2018 03:41

Arcteryx Anarchist: Sep 15, 2007; Fun Shoe

Jonny 290 posted:

i heard about a native american tribe that redeems accused murderers by giving them peyote and tying them to a stump inside a tipi and making them listen to an elder read out fishmech posts until they see their spirit poster

what�s his name?

# ? Sep 20, 2018 03:47

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

i got bigpeeler, unfortunately

# ? Sep 20, 2018 03:51

ADINSX: Sep 9, 2003; Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Jonny 290 posted:

i heard about a native american tribe that redeems accused murderers by giving them peyote and tying them to a stump inside a tipi and making them listen to an elder read out fishmech posts until they see their spirit poster

# ? Sep 20, 2018 04:05

Midjack: Dec 24, 2007

Jonny 290 posted:

i heard about a native american tribe that redeems accused murderers by giving them peyote and tying them to a stump inside a tipi and making them listen to an elder read out fishmech posts until they see their spirit poster

i heard about one that eats poisonous plants and whoever barfs last is the leader.

that actually happened.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 04:23

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

quote:

Wilson is also known for founding Hatreon, a crowdfunding platform popular among white nationalists and neo-Nazis who were shut out of mainstream platforms after the violent rally in Charlottesville.

sounds like a real winner

# ? Sep 20, 2018 04:48

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

fishmech posted:

i just don't see how this results in a drone not being able to navigate, unless the thing the operator wanted it to do was specifically follow a magnetic heading.

like i doubt the cheapy ones with a glorified rc car controller care about a compass direction, you steer them basically all manually and even the very fancy ones still have that usually. and you're usually expected to keep the thing in visual range to handle that, or you're going to be putting on a camera that can be used for flying visually.

plus the ones fancy enough to have gps nav should be able to move between gps waypoints absent the magnetic compass even if it'll be less reliable than if you're sitting at the magnetic equator and can expect the most reliable compass response.

ok so to be clear your argument is "here are a few ways that i think drones should work, q.e.d." but you don't actually know how they work, nor have you presented any evidence that they do work like you suggest.

imagine that the drone has some simplistic navigation logic that uses the current gps position to calculate the bearing to the next waypoint, turns the drone to face that bearing using the compass, and flies forwards. what happens to the drone if the software doesn't account for magnetic declination? what happens if the declination at your location is 50+ degrees?

fishmech posted:

like sagebrush got a history on these weird little stories that are obviously fake, like when he claimed there was an "african tribe" that punishes murderers by holding them in solitary in "the tents" and then have a ceremony where the murderer is rowed out in a lake and if the victim's family rescues the person from the middle of the lake the "tribe" treats it as if the murder never happened because ~forgiveness~

that story was told to me by a friend years ago and i repeated it here without bothering to verify it. after getting called out, i dug around and it turned out to be an anecdote written for the nicole kidman movie the interpreter. i've been earnest about that on a number of occasions, you can dig through my post history if you want

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:08

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

iospace posted:

I see your point

but why the gently caress are you defending a rich person by poking holes in a story making fun of someone who is rich?

don't check the mech

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:09

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

i do kinda enjoy that fishmech has never heard of ecotourism, though, and their immediate reaction to learning something new is "it must be a lie"

that's some serious mental conditioning

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:12

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Sagebrush posted:

ok so to be clear your argument is

no, it's that GPS absolutely does not have anything to do with magnetism, and the magnetic poles/high declination do not prevent GPS navigation from working. this is how it is known that your story is bs.

but within your boneheaded theory, you have the mere amount of declination being enough to defeat using a compass. this is false, declination tables are widely published and even something a few years out of date won't radically break your navigation. you have the gps to tell you where the device is and lookup proper declination. it doesn't mean your compass is gonna spin around wildly or any such nonsense.

Sagebrush posted:

i do kinda enjoy that fishmech has never heard of ecotourism, though,

that's not what i said, i said that your story is dumb as is bragging about totally knowing a guy who works in the arctic and said gps doesn't work

Sagebrush posted:

that story was told to me by a friend years ago and i repeated it here without bothering to verify it

and you just did the very same thing here broheim thats why i brought it up.

fishmech fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Sep 20, 2018

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:21

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

a UAV uses a combination of gps (absolute position), inertial references (dynamic orientation), and magnetic sensors (absolute orientation) to navigate in three-dimensional space. when one third of that data is wrong or unreliable, navigation suffers.

your new argument, based on your recent searches for "what is magnetic declination" and "how do drones work" (look at those goalposts fly!) is that obviously the drone manufacturers would have accommodated in their software for extreme cases such as operation close to the magnetic poles because it's so obvious therefore none of these coders could be lazy or cheap. even you know better than that.

incidentally, gps itself also breaks down in the arctic for reasons unrelated to magnetic declination: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/navigating-the-arctic-why-gps-might-fail-you/

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Sep 20, 2018

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:30

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Fishmech, the "Technically correct, the best kind of correct" meme made flesh.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:33

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

iospace posted:

I see your point

but why the gently caress are you defending a rich person by poking holes in a story making fun of someone who is rich?

because of who they are as a person

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:35

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Jonny 290 posted:

i heard about a native american tribe that redeems accused murderers by giving them peyote and tying them to a stump inside a tipi and making them listen to an elder read out fishmech posts until they see their spirit poster

a punishment crueler than death

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:36

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

fishmech posted:

no, it's that GPS absolutely does not have anything to do with magnetism, and the magnetic poles/high declination do not prevent GPS navigation from working. this is how it is known that your story is bs.

but within your boneheaded theory, you have the mere amount of declination being enough to defeat using a compass. this is false, declination tables are widely published and even something a few years out of date won't radically break your navigation. you have the gps to tell you where the device is and lookup proper declination. it doesn't mean your compass is gonna spin around wildly or any such nonsense.

that's not what i said, i said that your story is dumb as is bragging about totally knowing a guy who works in the arctic and said gps doesn't work

and you just did the very same thing here broheim thats why i brought it up.

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# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:38

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

Stringent posted:

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we don't do that one anymore

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:48

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Sagebrush posted:

a UAV uses a combination of gps (absolute position), inertial references (dynamic orientation), and magnetic sensors (absolute orientation) to navigate in three-dimensional space. when one third of that data is wrong or unreliable, navigation suffers.

your new argument, based on your recent searches for "what is magnetic declination" and "how do drones work" (look at those goalposts fly!) is that obviously the drone manufacturers would have accommodated in their software for extreme cases such as operation close to the magnetic poles because it's so obvious therefore none of these coders could be lazy or cheap. even you know better than that.

incidentally, gps itself also breaks down in the arctic for reasons unrelated to magnetic declination: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/navigating-the-arctic-why-gps-might-fail-you/

gps works fine in the arctic, the arctic is in fact one of the most critical places for it to work due to its invention as a tool for the military to use. there is minorly reduced reliability compared to the middle latitudes but that's not going to make a drone crash that wasn't already going to crash in cleveland

compasses aren't wrong or unreliable at high declination, they're simply troublesome to use over very long distances without re-adjustment.

your story was made up just like the racist africa story and you are flailing to defend it just like you flailed to defend that.

Stringent posted:

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nice meltdown

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:50

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

if employing "autistic" in the pejorative against fishmech is wrong, i don't want to be right

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:50

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

fishmech pulling out the powerful non possum te audiunt stratagem i see

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:57

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Sagebrush posted:

fishmech pulling out the powerful non possum te audiunt stratagem i see

sagebrush taking on the "just keep defending a lovely fake story" strategem i see.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 06:07

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

it's okay to get owned on the internet sometimes, child

# ? Sep 20, 2018 06:09

crabrock: Aug 2, 2002; I

AM

MAGNIFICENT

https://phantompilots.com/threads/lost-my-drone-in-the-arctic.116714/

quote:

"Hi Sir,

Thanks for your patience.

For your claimed case CAS-xxxxxx-xxxxx, we have already finished the analysis, and the result is as follows:
Flight time：2016.09.01 09.22:51(utc+8)
FLY022; Home point:74.7215634, -91.8416966; Last point:74.7154911 -91.7417518;
1.The aircraft was controlled by pilot in gps mode;
2.T=17:26,h=-9m,d=3018.5m,flight record interrupt during Landing by intelligent battery;
3.Compass navigation bias was too large, the aircraft lost control due to environment.The Phantom 4 cannot operate within the polar areas.

According to the analysis, the incident was not caused by any product malfunction factors. As such, we could not provide warranty service.

Should you have more questions, please feel free to let me know.

Best Regards,

DJI Tech Support
http://www.dji.com/"

# ? Sep 20, 2018 06:17

Bibendum: Sep 5, 2003; nunc est Bibendum

ADINSX posted:

Seattle is also the only place I've seen express lanes that change direction automatically, on a schedule. So in the morning they'll be south bound and in the evening north bound.

It's kinda silly but they aren't actually automatic, a couple guys in trucks hang out at the entrance before change over and switch it manually then drive through stopping at each on ramp to switch it over and make sure there are no stalled cars still pointing the wrong way. The gates have some relay interlocks and I think are networked to the control center in shoreline but there are safety vehicle arrest nets that need to be removed by hand. I know all this because I had the misfortune as part of my job to follow them through and cover up graffiti while they changed over. I still have nightmares about discarded dope needles from that job.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 06:31

Moist von Lipwig: Oct 28, 2006; by FactsAreUseless; Tortured By Flan

Poniard posted:

This post made me realize you don't pronounce shaggar like Mick Jagger, but rather like an Eldritch being: Shah-Gar

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# ? Sep 20, 2018 06:37

ADINSX: Sep 9, 2003; Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Bibendum posted:

It's kinda silly but they aren't actually automatic, a couple guys in trucks hang out at the entrance before change over and switch it manually then drive through stopping at each on ramp to switch it over and make sure there are no stalled cars still pointing the wrong way. The gates have some relay interlocks and I think are networked to the control center in shoreline but there are safety vehicle arrest nets that need to be removed by hand. I know all this because I had the misfortune as part of my job to follow them through and cover up graffiti while they changed over. I still have nightmares about discarded dope needles from that job.

Oh thats interesting, that makes me feel a little better actually.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 07:13

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

fishmech posted:

gps works fine in the arctic, the arctic is in fact one of the most critical places for it to work due to its invention as a tool for the military to use

ah yes, all the military uses for arctic warfare

# ? Sep 20, 2018 07:41

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hdIiMg7YYI

https://goo.gl/maps/2tntVwjgR7T2 Hav�ysund above the arctic circle

Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Sep 20, 2018

# ? Sep 20, 2018 07:42

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

i mean its also possible that the drone received completely valid gps signals and crashed into the ground on its own accord but it still doesnt make the story any less funny

# ? Sep 20, 2018 07:42

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Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

crabrock posted:

https://phantompilots.com/threads/lost-my-drone-in-the-arctic.116714/

fishmech's razor, right here y'all

# ? Sep 20, 2018 07:51

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