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Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his revolutionary levels?

*looking at a screen, eyes widening* TROTSKYITE

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Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
Will the Marvel Cinematic Universe continue post-revolution? Will the already existing movies in the franchise remain part of the canon? These are the questions we need to answer if communism is to gain mass support

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

GalacticAcid posted:

Having actually good censors would be sick and I'm not even the least bit ironic about this.

I'd be a great censor.

After the revolution I'll serve the people by censoring all fanservice.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Bryter posted:

Will the Marvel Cinematic Universe continue post-revolution? Will the already existing movies in the franchise remain part of the canon? These are the questions we need to answer if communism is to gain mass support

this is one issue upon which the revolutionary central committee cannot bend: superhero movies will be banned

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
the liberation of humanity necessarily means the freedom to pursue artistic endeavors, and even the crafting of pure time-wasting nonsense like theatre in addition to more serious work like MMOs.

Serf
May 5, 2011


all superhero movies will be replaced with the only acceptable marxist substitute

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Bryter posted:

Will the Marvel Cinematic Universe continue post-revolution? Will the already existing movies in the franchise remain part of the canon? These are the questions we need to answer if communism is to gain mass support

they will be made part of the great canon of marxist-leninist-maoist-xiism

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Bryter posted:

Will the Marvel Cinematic Universe continue post-revolution? Will the already existing movies in the franchise remain part of the canon? These are the questions we need to answer if communism is to gain mass support

It's actually a good question just how much communist firms would be able to control the image of an intellectual "property." Obviously you can't control it completely, so you'd end up with a Toho or Sonic situation every time - but there's going to be a lot of give and pull over whether the community determines canon or the creators.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
in truth though it is hard to say how much anime there will be as the effects of how bad global warming will be are still kinda hard to predict. There may not be as much spare slack for relatively expensive art. The cheap kind would doubtlessly exist in abundance however.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
*The Chief Censor and Cultural Arbiter addressing Burt and Ernie*

It is decided. your gay.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Communism is still subcultural, but a subculture is better than no culture. The last 2 years have been an astronomic leap in the expansion of leftist consciousness.

drat the internet makes you genius

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his revolutionary levels?

I can't believe Vegeta crushed the scouter, then threw Nappa into the air and blew him up there and then

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's actually a good question just how much communist firms would be able to control the image of an intellectual "property." Obviously you can't control it completely, so you'd end up with a Toho or Sonic situation every time - but there's going to be a lot of give and pull over whether the community determines canon or the creators.

Real talk I think the concept of canon is dying out with proliferation of media. I certainly don't see it surviving a socialist society with sane IP laws.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

lotta revisionists in here refusing to acknowledge the superiority of socialist realism in all aspects of culture and art

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Karl Barks posted:

lotta revisionists in here refusing to acknowledge the superiority of socialist realism in all aspects of culture and art
Does socialist realism depict vagina bones?

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Dreddout posted:

Does socialist realism depict vagina bones?

one would need a lot of pouches to carry a lot of armaments

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Victory Position posted:

I can't believe Vegeta crushed the scouter, then threw Nappa into the air and blew him up there and then

That was the February Revolution.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Serf posted:

just so long as i can keep playing tabletop roleplaying games under socialism. then we're good

a man can sneak attack in the morning, turn undead in the afternoon, and rage in the evening, all without ever being rogue, cleric, or barbarian.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
All I'm worried about is the politburo censoring doujins which I believe are the only proletarian form of porn and necessary for a communist society to function

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
e-hentai will never be syppressed by the stalinist counter-revolutionaries

THS
Sep 15, 2017

mass art is an escape from capitalist alienation. without capitalist alienation, most art will die in favor of the purer pursuits of science and technical efficiency

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
agreed, this is why we will get even better at rendering titninjas in communist soul calibur 8.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

THS posted:

mass art is an escape from capitalist alienation. without capitalist alienation, most art will die in favor of the purer pursuits of science and technical efficiency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HJxya0CWco

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Graphic posted:

i used to check out /r/communism 2-3 years ago once in a while for laughs. it was full 1950s stalinist LARP mode, average age probably 15.8

I still remember one worried post asking if there would be video games under communism.
I got banned from there

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

18th Brumaire posted:

A nation, no more than a woman, is excused for the unguarded hour when the first adventurer who comes along can do violence to her.

wow marx was unwoke, do better

Infernot
Jul 17, 2015

"A short night wakes me from a dream that seemed so long."
Grimey Drawer

StashAugustine posted:

wow marx was unwoke, do better

Oof, that's a heckin' yikes

THS
Sep 15, 2017

StashAugustine posted:

wow marx was unwoke, do better

this aint it chief

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

marx is CANCELED

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2k0uC2BUAk

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003
See you either in hell or in communism
Blame yourself, or god

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

terrible video, there is no curb your enthusiasm theme with a slow zoom in on the interviewers face

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

Bryter posted:

Will the Marvel Cinematic Universe continue post-revolution? Will the already existing movies in the franchise remain part of the canon? These are the questions we need to answer if communism is to gain mass support

Realistically there's no way IP laws look anything like they do right now if they even still exist, there might be A marvel cinematic universe if the workers at Marvel Studios wanted to continue it, but there'd be no guarantee they'd be the only ones making movies about marvel characters because they're loving old characters.

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
https://twitter.com/MetalGearEbooks/status/1042914687409696768

uphold kojima thought for a united earth

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/athenogenes/status/1042930392448335872?s=19

namaste

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yeah there's no way Marvel deserves a copyright on any of their characters. I'm pretty sure there's not a single one that's been written after I was born

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i will achieve fame after the revolution with my gambit novellas

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

But haven’t you seen The Polls? Americans support Medicare for All and a Jobs Guarantee™️

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
The problem is both that some are unwilling to recognize any gains made in the past few years (i.e. that an american left wing movement is even a vague possibility at all) and others that think that left's current efforts are all that is required. Of course the end result of both viewpoints is an apathy that could cause all of this to stall out.

Electoral politics are useful as a propaganda effort to get true left wing ideas into the public discourse and to seed sectors of the government with political allies but these efforts must ultimately be combined with agitation and mass mobilization efforts on the ground level.

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WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Frog Act posted:

Its funny watching the communist community on reddit grow via enticing schoolchildren into a new, cool, identity that presumably they are able to identify because it represents the least apparently awful way to be a transgressive teenager. my brother teaches history at a super fancy public magnet for the brightest students in the state (many of them write better than the other folks in my MA history program) and he's noticed that changes in the discourse have precipitated high schoolers increasingly openly identifying with a political ideology rather than merely their parents party, and I suspect a lot of think of communism as the alternative to the odious racists they interact with regularly and the bloodless libs that they're at least a little bit aware had a hand in screwing them over.


I guess my theory is just that communism as a pseudo identity or political theology has become increasingly mainstreamed and appealing to Americans which seems like obviously a good thing, particularly since history bears out the notion that being conversant in theory is basically useless for people actually out on barricades or participating in activism (or at best, unimportant). I mean I still think communist theory is interesting and worth studying but I don't want this post to imply I feel contempt for people who haven't read Liebknicht or whatever, just that this broader appeal to alienated young people has produced some pretty funny stuff




those are just from the front page. the whole place is also brimming with uninformed Stalinism and North Korean apologetics, both of which make sense in light of the profound distortions surrounding the public view of both of those things and the sort of contrarian teenage ethos that suffuses the whole community, but I think the proportion of genuine authoritarians is relatively low.

This post got me wondering I guess if anyone had any examples of the kind of "vulgar Marxism" Weimar writers and critical theorists complained about and what kind of similarity it bore to this stuff. In grad school I studied German Communist propaganda, particularly stuff produced by Communist film companies in Weimar and films funded by the Soviets in postwar East Germany and they were fantastic if unsubtle, and as I understand it, were one of the principal mediums for recruiting young, urban communists to active participation in the party. I wonder if these sorts of "radical" web communities can even be compared to that kind of a unified propaganda effort, though, for all the obvious reasons

here's an example of the movies I'm talking about btw, anyone interested should watch this because honestly I think its pretty powerful and wish the modern left could produce stuff half as compelling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mkRU2bJE8E

ed: here is an example of the prototypical post I'm talking about


this post has everything I mentioned - a high schooler asking for help on his/her homework, basic familiarity with left-wing vernacular, and a general outlook they want to find evidence to support. their heart is in the right place but they don't have any kind of a real understanding of the meaning of "bourgeois", just that they ought to use it when discussing propertied people. I don't mean to nitpick this person for not distinguishing between feudal lords and the bourgeoisie that replaced them particularly, but its sorta representative. and nobody corrected him

there was medieval bourgeoisie tho

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