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Various Meat Products posted:Holy orders only fight enemies with a different religion. For Christian holy orders this includes other branches of Christianity (eg. Knights Templar won't fight Orthodox enemies). They will fight heretics, though.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:For Christian holy orders this includes other branches of Christianity (eg. Knights Templar won't fight Orthodox enemies). They will fight heretics, though. C'mon paradox where's my fourth crusade
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Sep 20, 2018 04:28
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Gaius Marius posted:C'mon paradox where's my fourth crusade In Holy Fury https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/dev-diary-93-venetian-guile.1112235/
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Sep 20, 2018 04:31
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Kaza42 posted:In Holy Fury can we sales the girls of byz as the slave? uknow it's for the historical accuracy, venice trader and arbic rich sultan love young foreign girls. I think we should have the prisoner sales system, like the slave market and liverpool. and not only for the liverpool, but also venice republic, nomad government. it's a really important income for them in the history. the prisoner of army will become the slave, venice trader like to sale them to the arbic. there are many serf and villein and slave at that days, that's the missing part in the game. not all the ppl are civil and free. so what's bothering you guys?
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Sep 20, 2018 04:46
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Kaza42 posted:In Holy Fury It's amazing that despite the Latin Empire having been in game since release, they're finally getting around to adding in mechanics that might actually lead to seeing it appear dynamically in a game. Holy Fury really does feel like the DLC that wraps up all the loose ends for CK2.
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Sep 20, 2018 04:51
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ajkalan posted:lol paradox fans: Yeah, there were some similar comments on the Mali Trade Route dev diary, asking to see the slave trade implemented because Mali dealt in a lot of slaves (I have no idea how accurate that is, I just knew about the gold thing)
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Sep 20, 2018 05:35
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So is my run just screwed. If I attack south Ireland I get a revolt, but if I don't do anything I get a revolt. And when I win the revolt I get another revolt.
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Sep 20, 2018 16:32
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Rirse posted:So is my run just screwed. If I attack south Ireland I get a revolt, but if I don't do anything I get a revolt. And when I win the revolt I get another revolt. Hit the tilde key and type cash, hire mercenaries and crush everything
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Sep 20, 2018 16:42
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What's going on that is triggering the revolts? Sometimes you have to deal with the root cause. If it's factions revolting, sometimes you can stab the plotters and get rid of them. Even having the 'Known Murderer' malus is better than crushing endless revolts. Also look at what they're actually revolting *for* - if it's something you can temporarily live with, maybe just surrender. Like, if it's to increase council power you may be able to deal with the council having more say in things for long enough to settle things down and then remove their rights again down the road. If you have a particular rear end in a top hat vassal, once you get him imprisoned, just leave him there. It's always tempting to ransom them for $$$ but they're not much of a threat languishing in the dungeon. You should be able to revoke at least one of their titles after defeating them, which will reduce their threat to you. Nothing makes me feel better than turning an rear end in a top hat Duke into a Count, and then transferring his vassalage to someone else. Now he's their goddamn problem.
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Sep 20, 2018 17:02
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evenworse username posted:What's going on that is triggering the revolts? My people been pissed off since I had a event where a cousin was convicted of being a witch. And since he attempted to make a claim on the throne, he got burned. Got a negative status in return and they hated me ever since.
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Sep 20, 2018 17:15
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Sounds like you got 'Kinslayer', huh? Kinslayer and Tyrant are two negative status effects that you really want to avoid as much as you can because they bring a massive amount of universal hate. I only plot to kill family members if it is really, really important that they die (and, of course, once you *already have Kinslayer, well...) and definitely think twice whenever the tooltip says 'this will be regarded as tyrannical'. Once you're in it ... again, if you're already a Tyrant you may as well max out on it. Imprison everyone and leave them there. Revoke the gently caress out of their titles, ideally giving them back out to loyalists. Executing traitors is always tempting but in this case it just replaces them with someone else who hates you. Now is not the time for external wars. Hire mercs if you can - use loans if you gotta - to put down the revolts that are for things like kicking you off the throne and surrender to the ones that are maybe liveable. Eventually between having assholes in your dungeon and the 'crushed a major revolt' opinion modifiers things should settle a little. If you can revoke some titles and either put in Content replacements that will help, and at least temporarily landless courtiers that you throw a county on will get a +100 'granted a title' modifier. (Make sure they're not also Ambitious or Envious though) Look at other stuff that is making specific people unhappy that you might be able to fix to pull their opinion up. If someone 'desires the county of X', sometimes it's just easier to give it to them and have them closer to being content. If you have Conclave, this may be the time when you'll need to give council seats to people you're trying to keep happy rather than picking the best stats - removing that -40 'wants to be on the council' modifier can be huge. Every so often I do get to a point where lots of people hate me, and often times you just have to content yourself with holding things together as best you can until your heir takes over and is presumably less loathed.
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Sep 20, 2018 17:36
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I think part of the game is that things will go to poo poo. You're going to have an imbecilic ruler with a reagent for 80 years; you're going to have a bad string of luck and lose titles; your carefully laid plans will go to the wayside. As long as your dynasty persists, you can claw and murder your way back to the top.
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evenworse username posted:Sounds like you got 'Kinslayer', huh? Kinslayer and Tyrant are two negative status effects that you really want to avoid as much as you can because they bring a massive amount of universal hate. I only plot to kill family members if it is really, really important that they die (and, of course, once you *already have Kinslayer, well...) and definitely think twice whenever the tooltip says 'this will be regarded as tyrannical'. Yeah he also had Tyrant before I got control of him, as his brother was originally going to take over but when I help out with Scotland revolt, he gave up the throne. Probably for the best since he died young. I probably just jail them and let them lot.
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Sep 20, 2018 17:42
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gently caress yeah i finally did it
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Sep 20, 2018 17:56
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Congrats, now enjoy your eternal hellwar with the Abbasids
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Sep 20, 2018 18:05
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Rirse posted:Yeah he also had Tyrant before I got control of him, as his brother was originally going to take over but when I help out with Scotland revolt, he gave up the throne. Probably for the best since he died young. I probably just jail them and let them lot. Tyrant and Kinslayer is a rough ride, but the upside is that you can go ahead and do all sorts of horrible things without making the situation appreciably worse. Sometimes the answer to tyranny is more tyranny.
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Sep 20, 2018 18:59
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evenworse username posted:Tyrant and Kinslayer is a rough ride, but the upside is that you can go ahead and do all sorts of horrible things without making the situation appreciably worse. Sometimes the answer to tyranny is more tyranny. I threw all the council in prison and let them rot. That king ended up dying in a revolt which they were much nicer toward the next king...shame he was a idiot who I let die from food poisoning because his stats were almost all 0.
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Sep 20, 2018 19:31
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Rirse posted:I threw all the council in prison and let them rot. That king ended up dying in a revolt which they were much nicer toward the next king...shame he was a idiot who I let die from food poisoning because his stats were almost all 0. :crusaderkings:
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Sep 20, 2018 19:55
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Kaza42 posted:Yeah, there were some similar comments on the Mali Trade Route dev diary, asking to see the slave trade implemented because Mali dealt in a lot of slaves (I have no idea how accurate that is, I just knew about the gold thing) I don't think there was a significant slave trade from Africa to Europe during this time period. There was a slave trade in the Crimean around the tail end of this game's time period though.
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Sep 20, 2018 21:42
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Torrannor posted:Congrats, now enjoy your eternal hellwar with the Abbasids I already had to fight six separate wars against them in order to unite India. Pain in the rear end. Two great conquest wars and two holy wars to kick them out of the western provinces, and then two more wars in order to take back individual little baronies they had way out in the middle of India for some reason. Now I will not stop until Mecca is conquered and converted to Hinduism or the new DLC comes out.
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Sep 20, 2018 22:34
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Managed to have a fun run as the Doge of Genoa. Did a great job on my run, but when some other idiots ran it (basically didn’t feel like being Doge all the time and I had the money to buy it back whenever I wanted and a guy with better stats emerged) lose 6 wars and get absorbed into a HRE vassal. I’m in some city I control making a ton of money and not really sure what I can do, also Genoa is now technically in Tripoli. I’m Doge again, but I decided to swear fealty to the HRE cause I have no clue what to do. Also my city is in the Byzantium Empire. I know the must sound insanely confusing, and it is. Fun times though, I really understand a lot of the mechanics more then I ever had in the past. I guess I could let it run in the background to get the Merchant Prince Achievement then hire a ton of mercs and do something.... Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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Sep 20, 2018 23:29
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Hah, I was trying to use the console command to just kill off England heirs to the point they just break up, but after about 30 people they still had a ton left. At that point their ruler was a six year old girl who now promised to get marry with a cousin.
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In my current run, I'd totally ditch my current ruler and play as the duke of Wales if this wasn't an ironman game. A couple rulers ago, I set up a genius third son with a duchy back when I needed to delegate a bunch of counties (or maybe he was an average son who I married to a genius and produced a genius grandson?) and for a while it looked like he might inherit, but he didn't, and now he's a genius with 24 stewardship and my most loyal vassal. Already, playing a super-capable vassal is more fun than playing a dumb ruler. Most importantly, after Scotland fell away from my rule, I thought it was just gavelkind, but it turns out it was seniority, and that means that there's no easy enforcement of a weak claim, since if you kill the adult ruler, there's another adult male. You have to keep a real eagle eye for an opportunity to attack, and my vassal goddamn found it and declared a war for his claim on Scotland. I declared right after, and now we're in a race to conquer Scotland, and he may have the edge. Ivan Shitskin posted:then two more wars in order to take back individual little baronies they had way out in the middle of India for some reason. It's not one of the big features everybody is excited for, but that exclave decay is going to change everything
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Sep 21, 2018 00:20
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I hope it will also do something about the barony-level enclaves in foreign lands.
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Sep 21, 2018 01:12
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Rirse posted:Hah, I was trying to use the console command to just kill off England heirs to the point they just break up, but after about 30 people they still had a ton left. At that point their ruler was a six year old girl who now promised to get marry with a cousin. Mods?
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Sep 21, 2018 01:27
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I just want freedom from the one of each holding rule. Let me build a glorious horse theocracy for helya already.
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Strudel Man posted:I hope it will also do something about the barony-level enclaves in foreign lands. God I wish I could just transfer that vassalage. I don't want a barony in the HRE! Kaza42 posted:Yeah, there were some similar comments on the Mali Trade Route dev diary, asking to see the slave trade implemented because Mali dealt in a lot of slaves (I have no idea how accurate that is, I just knew about the gold thing) I've definitely made the mistake of reading too far into comments on Steam Workshop, half of them are requests/demands that the modder make/add a slavery mod, or something else that's horrible and misogynistic. the comments on the enatic succession mod I downloaded...y i k e s
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Mods? Well it didn't matter since I ended up quitting that save after randomly losing one of my lands to England due to heir issues with it. And at that point I was just tired of them gobbling up everything. I started a new game and tried to kill everyone off in england but it literally would make heirs out of nowhere.
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big dyke energy posted:God I wish I could just transfer that vassalage. I don't want a barony in the HRE! Pfft, what kind of feudal lord are you?  I actually don't mind owning baronies in other people's territories, but I wish there was a way to more easily spot when someone else owns baronies in your territory. It's a real pain when you're trying to form India and you think you have all the required territory but there's some foreign owned barony hiding somewhere on the subcontinent and you have to manually scour the map trying to spot the tiny icon that may blend right in with the background colours. Either a notification along the lines of "territory not fully controlled" and then when you click on it it warps you to the affected county, or just some kind of striped overlay, like when a holding is captured in a siege, to indicate that ownership is divided.
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I don't think there was a significant slave trade from Africa to Europe during this time period. There was a slave trade in the Crimean around the tail end of this game's time period though. Mali didn't trade slaves to Europe, they traded slaves to mine salt in Sahara and row on North African galleys.
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I don't see much point in adding some new mechanic for this instead of leaving it abstracted away as part of trade route income and raiding loot (since you can take courtiers prisoner, you can tell yourself some of the "loot" are captives as well).
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From what I understand, the Got Land cheevo doesn’t require to start as Gotland, right? I’m going to try for Norse-East and the India one as well, so a stronger start is probably better.
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Sep 21, 2018 11:32
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Fat Samurai posted:From what I understand, the Got Land cheevo doesn’t require to start as Gotland, right? I’m going to try for Norse-East and the India one as well, so a stronger start is probably better. From wiki: "From 1097-1161 and from 1285-1337 the holder of Gotland is also the king of Sweden. In 1337, he is also king of Norway, needing only 7 more counties to create the empire, and having CBs on 4 right away."
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Sep 21, 2018 12:07
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Dev Diary on Saints and Venerated Ancestors for Pagan faiths that take that reformation.
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Jedit posted:loving release this already!
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Sky Shadowing posted:Dev Diary on Saints and Venerated Ancestors for Pagan faiths that take that reformation. This is everything I wanted from saints, and now they've even added ancestor worship as well. Holy Fury will be absolutely amazing! Jedit posted:loving release this already! This so much! I think this will be the best CK2 DLC ever, I can't wait. But we don't even have a release date! How much more can they add to Holy Fury?
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Fat Samurai posted:From what I understand, the Got Land cheevo doesn’t require to start as Gotland, right? I’m going to try for Norse-East and the India one as well, so a stronger start is probably better. It’s doable and fun to start as Gotland and make a Scandinavian merchant empire.
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Is there interesting real world cases of “Impious Saints”?
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Man, it's weird to see how the people they have doing the Holy Fury showcase are, just not really good at the game?
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