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Splicer posted:It's almost like a public need like healthcare shouldn't be handled as a for profit. What's that? I can't hear you over the sound of our Prisons counting their money.
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The publicly funded hospital I work in has 3 MRI scanners less than a year old and our CT scanners were replaced in 2015. I would  but most of our other stuff is old as poo poo.
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sandoz posted:oh i'm sorry, i thought this was AMERICA no, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY
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ExecuDork posted:Most of southern Saskatchewan is sitting on glacial till ("poorly sorted" mixture of rocks ranging from sand up to multi-tonne boulders, covered by soil) or pro-glacial lake bed, which is fine clay and silt, on top of glacial till. Consolidated bedrock is sometimes a few kilometres down. But, your point is quite valid - it looks like the bridge supports were just sitting on the fine silt-and-clay, water-saturated river bed, which has the consistency of rotting fruit and smells worse. Even the layer of probably-clay that's under that is probably strong enough to hold the weight of a little bridge like that (even with the comically-overloaded grain trucks that Sask farmers are so fond of running), and I guess it could settle or the other materials (lots of big rocks, I think) that they probably put down around the hole might have shifted. Interesting to know about the dirt around another part of Canada. Also that holy gently caress Bedrock can be a few KM deep? Around my area (Toronto) Its typically less than 100. Unless you're on top of a hill. Get up to the Shield and its even shallower. I've found Shale as shallow as 6 inches at some drill locations in my local area, and up on top of the Niagara Escarpment, Limestone at the same depths, like less than a foot. I had a pretty sweet job one time. "Drill on this patch of soil that is surrounded by exposed limestone". "Ummm why"? "Project manager says it has to be done" We go to take surface split spoon, hammer, and rods start to bounce after the second drop. "Ok thats refusal, on to that next patch of grass surrounded by exposed limestone". Cichlidae posted:It could also be dilatant sediment. On a major bridge nearby, the piles were driven to refusal, but after a few hours they began to sink again. By the time they'd stopped sinking, the tops were much lower than they were supposed to be, and extensions had to be spliced on top. That could have happened in the Canadian case as well. What type of soil would that be? Silt? Clay? Geotech driller here, so curious about that sort of poo poo.
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Osama Dozen-Dongs posted:What do hospital physicists do, then? I thought this kind of thing was what they spent 10 years in school for. Mostly the QC/acceptance tests, regulation paperwork compliance. Otherwise they'd be found doing dosimetry calculations for radiation therapy patients. Got good news today, it was the hard drive that failed, not the motherboard. Instead of $4,000 for a Sun Ultra 10 computer, we only have to pay $1,400 for a 9.1gb Seagate drive from 2000.
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New crappy bridge back in the news today: Sask. bridge that collapsed 6 hours after opening was built without geotech investigation of riverbed: Reeve. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sask...reeve-1.4829890 quote:The Reeve of the RM of Clayton says the bridge that collapsed six hours after it opened was built without having geotechnical investigation done on the riverbed it stood on. A bridge building expert calls that approach "irregular." 
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klockwerk posted:New crappy bridge back in the news today:  https://i.imgur.com/v7p3uq4.mp4 Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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Sep 20, 2018 20:58
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klockwerk posted:New crappy bridge back in the news today: Measure never, cut once. Then flee the country with the embezzled money
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Does that expert mean irregular in the same way an accountant means irregular? Because if so
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wesleywillis posted:Interesting to know about the dirt around another part of Canada. Also that holy gently caress Bedrock can be a few KM deep? Around my area (Toronto) Its typically less than 100. Unless you're on top of a hill. Get up to the Shield and its even shallower. I've found Shale as shallow as 6 inches at some drill locations in my local area, and up on top of the Niagara Escarpment, Limestone at the same depths, like less than a foot. I'm now in Sudbury. Depth to bedrock is a negative number for much of this area - bedrock is above terrain that features actual soil. That's why the roads are so curvy here.
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Does that expert mean irregular in the same way an accountant means irregular? Because if so They’re all Canadian so “irregular” is probably the meanest thing they can say about it
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ExecuDork posted:I'm now in Sudbury. Depth to bedrock is a negative number for much of this area - bedrock is above terrain that features actual soil. That's why the roads are so curvy here. Love driving up through the shield, spent a lot of time up in the Muskokas as a kid and always remember the pink highways. Guess they would just mix whatever rock they fished blasting back into the asphalt mix and pave with that. Was mostly around Bala, Bracebridge, Huntsville and the like - occasionally up to Sudbury and Algonquin. Only thing I really remember about Sudbury is the science center, and the refinery surrounded by death, but I haven't been there since probably 1994. Wonder if the bridge that collapsed was a replacement for something else. If so they probably just said 'gently caress it' at spending the extra money on a proper survey and figured if whatever was there before was good enough then it'll still be good enough now.
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YIKES! Even by Tokyo-Narita crosswind/windshear standards that's a hair-raising drop.
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klockwerk posted:New crappy bridge back in the news today: "How deep do we have to drive the supports boss?" "Beats me. I'm just going to wait for Zeus to send an eagle as an omen." Turkey vulture flies by. "Eh, close enough."
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wesleywillis posted:What type of soil would that be? Silt? Clay? The area was a glacial lake, so it's various layered sand, silt, and clay: https://woodshole.er.usgs.gov/pubs/of2006-1199/html/fig9.html The bridge's predecessor was built 50 years prior and about 100 feet to the south, so they decided to just re-use the original borings. Turns out that was a bad idea. By the way, do you still do the SPT the same way in metric countries, with the 140-pound hammer and the cathead and all?
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Sounds about right. In 2010 or 2011 or so, I was working in as the IT manager for a small civil engineering firm in Montana. One of my job duties was, "other duties as assigned," which meant, under duress, if non-IT poo poo happened that was more important than IT poo poo, I had to go do it. Which is how I found myself in a company Dodge Intrepid, driving into a restricted fire zone to deliver documents. I drove some 4 hours toward the fire zone in the Flathead Lake area, blagging my way through checkpoints on the power of a magnetic car logo and my charming smile, until I got to the town where the documents needed to arrive. I left them at a bar (seriously, that's where I was supposed to drop them), and headed home through a loving apocalyptic landscape. My current job sucks sometimes, but at least I can be assured my boss won't send me into a federal danger zone anymore.
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Wanna see that one guy who pretend buckles their seatbelt for landing so they can be the first one standing up in the aisle at the gate.
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Asproigerosis posted:Mostly the QC/acceptance tests, regulation paperwork compliance. Otherwise they'd be found doing dosimetry calculations for radiation therapy patients. Oh hey, I was hoping you'd chime in on this conversation. I couldn't remember which goon's workplace was pissing away so much money keeping outdated imaging machines limping along with overpriced parts. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3763899&userid=197824 quote:The problem this time was that all of the post processing programs were deactivated somehow. The only solution that GE knew of was to format and reinstall. Again. OP: My boss wants me to machine a hinge pin for XYZ heavy machine instead of buying one, anybody have some advice? My reply: Mr. Apollo posted:"disruptive" OP: that failed for totally unrelated reasons Me: you're still going to get blamed for it in the lawsuit
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It's always funny to see people's reactions to almost being killed by something. In a normal video, it looks like they react and get out of the way. But you slow it down and you see that they don't start moving until the object already would have killed them or whatever. We just aren't built for these environments.
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Cojawfee posted:We just aren't built for these environments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_from_accidental_tree_failures_in_Australia
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Holy poo poo I feel for truckers a bit more today. Do a load, get the mandatory 10 hour break. Then half hour load and told to have another 10. That's not how people can recover. I am 100% behind this driver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5B14ut13IE
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Dad has told me stories about all the guys he worked with in the 80s, 70s maybe, running their mouths about getting a CDL because they'd make a ton of easy money being truckers. Turns out being a trucker is awful. He also said he wouldn't get a CDL so they'd never call him to hull a lowboy. Because as soon a construction company knows you can do something you're going to be doing it. Job description or not.
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Cartoon posted:Begs the question Exactly what environments are we designed for... It probably doesn't help that eucalypts shed limbs when stressed.
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Humphreys posted:Holy poo poo I feel for truckers a bit more today. That is incredibly hosed up, wow
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Cichlidae posted:The area was a glacial lake, so it's various layered sand, silt, and clay: https://woodshole.er.usgs.gov/pubs/of2006-1199/html/fig9.html The bridge's predecessor was built 50 years prior and about 100 feet to the south, so they decided to just re-use the original borings. Turns out that was a bad idea. Yeah, I've found different poo poo in two holes like 20 feet away, so yeah, that was definitely a bad idea. Can't speak for those commie youropeen countries, but here in Canuckistan, yeah. 140 Pound (as opposed to calling it the 63kg or whatever) hammer, 30 inch drop, 6 inch intervals etc. Lots of consulting companies are all "5 metre hole depth", 7 metre or whatever, but pretty much everything is converted to freedom measurements in the field. E: Holy gently caress bridge mayor town guy, shut the gently caress up before you look even worse: quote:Initially, Hicks told CBC the geotech work wasn't done because it's not possible to do that work under the river. wesleywillis fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Sep 21, 2018 |
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wesleywillis posted:E: Holy gently caress bridge mayor town guy, shut the gently caress up before you look even worse: quote:Hicks said a geotechnical study of the riverbed wasn't done before the bridge was built. Inertia, the engineering company for the project, declined to answer media questions and referred calls to the RM. Oh gently caress quote:Later in the interview, Hicks acknowledged that perhaps drilling can be done under the riverbed, but said it would be costly. Oh my god dude
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Phy posted:Later in the interview, Hicks acknowledged that perhaps drilling can be done under the riverbed, but said it would be costly. LOL, how many people are crossing your $325,000 bridge now?
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Nocheez posted:LOL, how many people are crossing your $325,000 bridge now? Pretty sure it's now become a $750,000 bridge.
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