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redleader posted:oh no, someone maintaining a useful piece of software. how awful. what a waste
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Gazpacho posted:no, "maintaining" implies prior functioning Not sure where you got that idea from, buddy
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Suspicious Dish posted:Not sure where you got that idea from, buddy old things bad!
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akadajet posted:i leave my disasters for other people to maintain, then go on to build brand new ones ah, a 10x coder
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I mean it’s fine to keep around older code if it s actually well designed and well executed and functional and the organization has made efforts to preserve institutional knowledge about it but in reality it’s probably some slipshod buggy unreadable mess of 10 years ago’s java flavor of the day so you might as well replace it with a slipshod buggy unreadable mess of the current javascript flavor of the day, doesn’t hurt anything and it’s a resume booster
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lmao maintaining existing software won't get you that dream job at amazon, facebook, or apple ABC, Always Be Creinventing
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Phobeste posted:well designed and well executed and functional and the organization has made efforts to preserve institutional knowledge about it the only thing that is relevant is "functional" and even that is "usually functional"
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Maintaining old software is good and useful to the world. I don't want to do it.
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Good job not talking about Hitler on the Hitler page, YOSPOS!
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CPColin posted:Good job not talking about Hitler on the Hitler page, YOSPOS! it's a PL thread; we don't care about being ibm compatible
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Brain Candy posted:it's a PL thread; we don't care about being ibm compatible
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Brain Candy posted:it's a PL thread; we don't care about being ibm compatible
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Brain Candy posted:it's a PL thread; we don't care about being ibm compatible
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Brain Candy posted:it's a PL thread; we don't care about being ibm compatible 
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thread title pls
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Brain Candy posted:it's a PL thread; we don't care about being ibm compatible
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Brain Candy posted:it's a PL thread; we don't care about being ibm compatible
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i didn't think it was that funny
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Gazpacho posted:i didn't think it was that funny 
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carry on then posted:lmao maintaining existing software won't get you that dream job at amazon, facebook, or apple yeah because there’s no huge body of existing software that needs maintaining like I said, my experience is that the people who could deal with Epic actually have a lot of skills for success in a place like Apple we have lots of old stuff to maintain and build new stuff atop (and refactor, and replace) but it’s written more or less sanely so the skills that enable you to work productively in a nightmare system like Epic’s make it pretty easy to work productively in ours
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poo poo legacy systems are usually a symptom of poo poo managers dont @ me
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much of the software for the GRiD Compass, the first clamshell-style portable computer (“laptop”), was written in Intel’s PL/M dialect of PL/I for the 8086 GRiD used the 8086 CPU, had a modern OS, a full integrated application suite with strong UI guidelines and uniform data types that could be extended by developers, used bubble memory as a kind of SSD, and even offered what today we’d call cloud storage and an app store via dialup—in both hosted and on-premises form and all this within six months of the introduction of the IBM PC
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Thermopyle posted:Maintaining old software is good and useful to the world. much like garbage men or women as in people who pick up your garbage
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here, have an example of PL/I from IBM I suspect the bug in handling ‘+’ is intentional, since it’s an example for debugging
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I didn’t know herb sutter added a borrow checker to c++
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writing a log rotator/archiver in powershell
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Krankenstyle posted:augh debugging latex ffs 
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Sapozhnik posted:poo poo legacy systems are usually a symptom of poo poo managers dont @ me this is due to a vicious cycle of all the good managers being busy rescuing poo poo projects
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AWWNAW posted:the good managers lol
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random q: does apple document what their "neural engine" hardware consists of? It seems like it's probably tensor cores, but I can't find any good reference.
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Bloody posted:lol dont @ me
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@conci zoo sniper UR A BUTT
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hey mononcqc, is "practical model-based testing" by utting and legeard worth reading? my uncle got me this because he got gifted 5 copies and can't read english but flipping through it, it seems basically like your book, but 90% state machines and mostly for enterprise blub blub blub peeps
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its when you print out your code and use it for tests irl it doesnt work very well unless your code is void wipe() { return; }
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we have a hella greybeard dev who prints out all the code he looks at. it's weird and seems wasteful, especially given his preferred formatting style which seeks to use as much vertical space as possible
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redleader posted:we have a hella greybeard dev who prints out all the code he looks at. it's weird and seems wasteful, especially given his preferred formatting style which seeks to use as much vertical space as possible fax him your next merge request
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bob dobbs is dead posted:hey mononcqc, is "practical model-based testing" by utting and legeard worth reading? my uncle got me this because he got gifted 5 copies and can't read english but flipping through it, it seems basically like your book, but 90% state machines and mostly for enterprise blub blub blub peeps I don’t know about that book. But there’s like model checking, a formal approach where you model your software in a specific framework and let a formal analyser say it’s right. there’s also a model testing practice that’s like writing abstract tests based on UML-like representations of the underlying software, which I figure isn’t formal. Checking the abstract it appears the book you have is about the latter. I tend to just try and actively ignore most of what contains UML, which might be a stupid policy but so far it has served me well. (as for my book, property based testing’s stateful models are closer to the formal approach—build a model—but instead of analyzing it, you do the non-formal thing where you make the model run against the real system through various inputs and see that both work the same.)
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