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Colonel J posted:When I was younger and getting into prog metal, I revered Dream Theater. Queensryche were always mentioned along them, but 15 years later I still dont get why. They're so awful. Same. There are a couple of songs that I like (I Don't Believe in Love has been mentioned), but there are very few popular bands that don't have at least a couple of palatable tracks. Thematically, though, Queensryche are abysmal. This photo of Tate speaks louder than a thousand words.
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Paladinus posted:Same. There are a couple of songs that I like (I Don't Believe in Love has been mentioned), but there are very few popular bands that don't have at least a couple of palatable tracks. Thematically, though, Queensryche are abysmal. This photo of Tate speaks louder than a thousand words.
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geoff taint
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# ? Sep 10, 2018 16:01 |
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Jet city woman is a good butt rock song
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# ? Sep 10, 2018 18:41 |
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Queensryche is good, and OM is better than any Dream Theater album. May God have mercy on all of your souls.
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# ? Sep 10, 2018 23:25 |
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The one with the pink cover is the best one. But I can’t remember what it’s called. And it’s not as good as that sunny day real estate record as far as albums with pink covers go. Edit: rage for order BigFactory fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Sep 10, 2018 |
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Astrochicken posted:Queensryche is good, and OM is better than any Dream Theater album. May God have mercy on all of your souls.
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# ? Sep 11, 2018 00:21 |
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The Christian Queensryche knock-off Balance of Power is better than Queensryche overall.
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# ? Sep 11, 2018 00:51 |
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Astrochicken posted:OM is better than any Dream Theater album. not exactly a high bar to clear
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Colonel J posted:When I was younger and getting into prog metal, I revered Dream Theater. Queensryche were always mentioned along them, but 15 years later I still dont get why. They're so awful. Tangential but the other day I remembered that Dream Theater released mid-2000 video game quality pictures of the characters in The Astonishing and had a good laugh
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BigFactory posted:The one with the pink cover is the best one.
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# ? Sep 11, 2018 15:43 |
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Admittedly i havent listened to rage for order in like 20 years. But I remember liking promised land a lot more.
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Astrochicken posted:Admittedly i havent listened to rage for order in like 20 years. But I remember liking promised land a lot more. Yuck
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tote up a bags posted:Tangential but the other day I remembered that Dream Theater released mid-2000 video game quality pictures of the characters in The Astonishing and had a good laugh
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The Big Word posted:I checked out from them completely after Portnoy left and I haven't heard any of their stuff since then, but I just read up on this album and jeez what were they thinking with this overwrought pointlessly detailed concept poo poo? Who are the people who care? What does life look like for the person who is enthusiastic about the Dream Theater steampunk nonsense album tie in phone game? gently caress dude what the hell It’s the worst album I’ve ever heard, but also the funniest
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The Big Word posted:I checked out from them completely after Portnoy left and I haven't heard any of their stuff since then, but I just read up on this album and jeez what were they thinking with this overwrought pointlessly detailed concept poo poo? Who are the people who care? What does life look like for the person who is enthusiastic about the Dream Theater steampunk nonsense album tie in phone game? gently caress dude what the hell Labrie was once on some fantasy concept album based on a popular book series (don't remember the name), and I think it broke his brain.
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Paladinus posted:Labrie was once on some fantasy concept album based on a popular book series (don't remember the name), and I think it broke his brain. He was on an Ayreon album once, but I don't think that was based off anything else than Lucassens understanding of "being an adult." E: The human equation, it was.
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He was also on the latest Ayreon album, though that one was back to being all about space and stuff instead of basically being a musical like The Human Equation. But Paladinus probably meant the Roswell Six album, which was kinda like The Human Equation except nowhere near as fun, and apparently the whole thing was written by a reputable(?) science fiction author.
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Paladinus posted:Labrie was once on some fantasy concept album based on a popular book series (don't remember the name), and I think it broke his brain. The Astonishing is Petrucci's brainchild
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 18:36 |
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The Astonishing is so sad because it's like a bipolar manic episode made manifest as an awful fantasy concept album
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# ? Sep 14, 2018 19:15 |
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I couldn't stomach listening to The Astonishing and had to switch it off 15 minutes in, but there are probably good proggy musical moments in there, which is kind of a shame they have to be buried in the rest. If someone made a cut of the album that included only the solos and rocking parts I'd be interested to hear that. edit : apparently someone did it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrUZnzSqISQ I'll give a listen but even at 70 minutes I'm skeptical. e2 : Labrie started singing 5 minutes in and I... I just can't do it. Colonel J fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Sep 14, 2018 |
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Colonel J posted:I couldn't stomach listening to The Astonishing and had to switch it off 15 minutes in, but there are probably good proggy musical moments in there, which is kind of a shame they have to be buried in the rest. There really aren't. They heard 25 years of criticism about 10 minute wankfests and responded by making music that only serves to complement a teen shut-in's NaNoWriMo project.
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Ruddess' insistence on starting half a dozen of its songs with a minute-long piano intro made it even more of a slog to get through. That and LORD NAFARYUS are the only things I've taken away from that album. Therion released a laughably bloated "rock opera" this year that literally goes on for 3 hours, and somehow that felt like less of a waste of time than The Astonishing.
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The best part of the album is when a character is supposed to unleash a deafening scream and LaBrie just goes "aaaaaaggghhh" Also according to the website it renders a character "hearingless" because Petrucci is unaware there's a word for that
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Colonel J posted:I couldn't stomach listening to The Astonishing and had to switch it off 15 minutes in, but there are probably good proggy musical moments in there, which is kind of a shame they have to be buried in the rest. I lasted about 45 seconds so you did better than me
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Skjorte posted:He was also on the latest Ayreon album, though that one was back to being all about space and stuff instead of basically being a musical like The Human Equation. But Paladinus probably meant the Roswell Six album, which was kinda like The Human Equation except nowhere near as fun, and apparently the whole thing was written by a reputable(?) science fiction author. I was thinking of Terra Incognita by Roswell Six, yes. Based on the book called The Edge of the World by some guy who's also written a bunch of Star Wars novels. It wasn't a good album at all.
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Henchman of Santa posted:The Astonishing is Petrucci's brainchild Oh no... I didn't know . For some reason I thought only LaBrie could be crazy enough for that. Also, checked Metacritic... How could this happen? I thought it was universally panned by fans and critics alike.
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Paladinus posted:Oh no... I didn't know . For some reason I thought only LaBrie could be crazy enough for that. Not a big sample size. You should wade into the Facebook comments every time they post about it.
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Skjorte posted:He was also on the latest Ayreon album, though that one was back to being all about space and stuff instead of basically being a musical like The Human Equation. But Paladinus probably meant the Roswell Six album, which was kinda like The Human Equation except nowhere near as fun, and apparently the whole thing was written by a reputable(?) science fiction author. The Source was definitely a musical. It shows the origin of the electric castle, the water people kept alive by machines, and the rear end in a top hat computer from Electric Castle. It was a sequel/prequel to 01011001, which I think is Arjen's best work, and ties the whole series in a nice little bow. Very important Ayreon lore there. Space Madness Ayreon is the Best Ayreon. Dishwasher fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Sep 15, 2018 |
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Dishwasher posted:The Source was definitely a musical. It shows the origin of the electric castle, the water people kept alive by machines, and the rear end in a top hat computer from Electric Castle. It was a sequel/prequel to 01011001, which I think is Arjen's best work, and ties the whole series in a nice little bow. Very important Ayreon lore there. Oh, for sure. I just mean that The Source and 01011001 seem like they're more abstract and perhaps too expository to work on stage the way Human Equation did and I imagine Theory of Everything and Electric Castle could. Arjen being overwhelmed with the number of guest singers who agreed to participate in 01011001 led to him not really giving everyone time to shine like on a few other Ayreon albums, in my opinion, but I do like that one, too. Electric Castle and The Human Equation are still my favorites, though, and The Theater Equation is definitely the best concert experience I'll ever have.
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P@ Mastelotto warming up on Stick Men tour pre-show. Dat shirt.
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# ? Sep 19, 2018 02:20 |
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progressive rock is a liberal genre, so what
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JAMOOOL posted:progressive rock is a liberal genre, so what It's a great pic of a wonderful guy.
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# ? Sep 20, 2018 18:04 |
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Seems like the closest thread to ask - is the current lineup of Trad gras och stenar worth catching?
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# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:10 |
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Speaking of Ayreon there's a remaster of Into the Electric Castle coming out and that's kinda neat maybe I hope
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# ? Sep 21, 2018 02:52 |
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Saw The Pineapple Thief on Wednesday night in Berlin, they were great although the setlist was I think overly heavy on the last two albums. Although I think they skipped us last time so maybe that's why. White Mist is a loving amazing song though and I'm glad it's on there.
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I’ve been listening the hell out of Dissolution the last few days. I’m really digging it. I’m so glad that it’s looking like Gavin is going to be a full time member, and not just a hired gun. His drumming fits in so perfectly with what Bruce Soord writes, just like it did for latter Porcupine Tree.
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So I've lost count of how many times I've listened to Phideaux's Infernal at this point, but I cannot seem to put it down. As BrufordFreak complains on ProgArchives, it's a bit too theatrical, a little too stagey, a little too Broadway for his tastes. That is exactly my jam, and I could not have put it better. On a vaguely-related note, I don't think I've seen Major Parkinson's Blackbox mentioned here before. Until that album, their connection with prog was tenuous, though there was something I always found pleasing about their compositions, and I'm sensitive to repetition in a way I can't well describe. But Blackbox has multiple lengthy songs and, more importantly, a rhythmic motif that's deftly woven throughout the album. Or at least I think that's what's going on. There is definitely a similar cohesion that is not apparent at first but unfolds with subsequent playthroughs. The Big Word posted:Speaking of Ayreon there's a remaster of Into the Electric Castle coming out and that's kinda neat maybe I hope Keen? I rather enjoyed the acoustic reinterpretation of The Final Experiment. Though if it's a straight remaster I didn't find anything wrong with the original. Except the word "devolution". If they could step around that landmine of poop in some fashion I'd appreciate it.
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Hammer Bro. posted:So I've lost count of how many times I've listened to Phideaux's Infernal at this point, but I cannot seem to put it down. As BrufordFreak complains on ProgArchives, it's a bit too theatrical, a little too stagey, a little too Broadway for his tastes. Pretty much. I slagged it off earlier in the thread and called it a grower. Shiiid, it's 'grown' into one my favorite album from him very quickly. I feel like as good as Phideaux is, there are sections of his albums that are definitely filler and skippable. Those lows are mitigated by those massive highs though. I feel like Infernal is 90 minutes of unskippable stuff. Finally, no boring sections at all. From Hydrogen to Love is probably his best song, which is saying a lot with poo poo like the 'Micro' duo, Formaldehyde, Beyond the Shadow of Doubt, and Chupacabra walking around. The theatrics and "stageness" is totally my jam too! It stimulates my particular brand of imagination-ing. Solid 10/10. This poo poo is ill, son. I 'still' want that Number 7 follow up though. Electric Castle already sounds fine. Borderline timeless even (in our small genre community). A remaster could be really cool or really......Extra. Dishwasher fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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