|
Either book is a fine stopping point. Just chop off what's incomplete and say, "Now it's complete because it's ended here."
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 12:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 21:53 |
|
|
Elissimpark posted:3 isn't super weird as a stopping point, if you view it as the culmination of Paul's arc (the destruction of his own legend) and the final throes of the world that Paul upturned in the first book. Yeah this was it for me. It was really the end of Paul's story.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 13:08
|
|
|
WhatEvil posted:Yeah this was it for me. It was really the end of Paul's story. 2 is the end of Paul's story, what the gently caress are people talking about?
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 16:17
|
|
|
Paul is the worms dick
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 16:28
|
|
|
Well yeah, but
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 16:29
|
|
|
I rather liked Children of Dune, but I don't think it's a good place to stop forever. Waiting a few years in between CoD and GEoD wouldn't be a terrible idea, though. Things change a lot.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 16:38
|
|
|
BeanpolePeckerwood posted:2 is the end of Paul's story, what the gently caress are people talking about? He didn't die at the end of Dune Messiah. He was The Preacher in Children of Dune, where he died an angry, broken shell of his former self.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 16:49
|
|
|
Maybe spoiler that for others. Also, effectively, his story is over.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 16:50
|
|
|
Probably okay to not spoiler a 40 year old novel. Plus phone-posting and can't find square brackets. I'd say 2 was the end of MAUD'DIB's story, but Paul Atriedes' ends in 3.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 17:03
|
|
|
I think the best advice to anyone new to the series is to stop whenever they stop liking it because they (arguably) don't get better. However, this is my opinion of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune: Messiah is basically an extended epilogue to the first book. The ending in Messiah, where a blind Paul walks into the desert alone to avoid further destruction, is a perfect ending to the first book. Children of Dune was written almost ten years after the first book and was used to kickstart more sequels. Herbert even retcons a few things, especially with Paul. I'm not saying it's bad but it's obviously not meant to be an ending to the series.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 17:17
|
|
|
read thou not two, unless thou then proceedest to three. five is right out.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 18:04
|
|
|
I’ve always just told people to read Dune, then past that to keep reading until they stop enjoying it, wherever that might be. My general feeling is 1 - 4 + The Dune Encyclopaedia is the best “complete” set.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2018 23:16
|
|
|
Children of Dune sucks rear end.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 00:36
|
|
|
Rockopolis posted:Either book is a fine stopping point. Just chop off what's incomplete and say, "Now it's complete because it's ended here." Bi-lal kaifa.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 00:46
|
|
|
thatfatkid posted:Children of Dune sucks rear end. Yup.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:01
|
|
|
Murray Mantoinette posted:Four is hands down the best one aside from 1. If you're stopping anywhere you should stop by Brian Herbert's house and murder his stupid body My man
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:20
|
|
|
thatfatkid posted:Children of Dune sucks rear end. ok but Wensicia is still a really cool name. Too bad about her son. edit: I feel like Dune names are either really awesome and evocative, easy 9 or 10/10s... or they're flatly stupid 1/10s. Bijaz. Bijaz. Not many names fall in the middle. Prolonged Panorama fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Sep 22, 2018 |
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:21
|
|
|
Prolonged Priapism posted:Too bad about her son. Don't talk about the breaker of habit that way.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:30
|
|
|
thatfatkid posted:Children of Dune sucks rear end. i'm the guy whose going to kill the genius polymath prescentients (two of them) with a tiger, and have no back up plan for when that inevitably goes wrong
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:33
|
|
|
Jesus In A Can posted:Don't talk about the breaker of habit that way. Harq al-Ada is a great name! And he's a fine character. But drat, Farad'n is a dumb name.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:41
|
|
Arrhythmia posted:i'm the guy whose going to kill the genius polymath prescentients (two of them) with a tiger, and have no back up plan for when that inevitably goes wrong uh that's why you use two tigers. you buffoon. you moron.
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:44
|
|
|
Milkfred E. Moore posted:uh that's why you use two tigers. you buffoon. you moron. have you SEEN the cost of a tiger these days?
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:45
|
|
|
jesus christ i already talked myself out of just sending a particularly ornery ferret and now you're telling me i need to spring for a second tiger? holy loving poo poo the brass balls on this guy
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:46
|
|
|
"Wait, Laza Tigers? I thought you said Laser Tigers!"
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:49
|
|
|
Arrhythmia posted:i'm the guy whose going to kill the genius polymath prescentients (two of them) with a tiger, and have no back up plan for when that inevitably goes wrong What would you do, use a gun? 
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 02:59
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 03:02
|
|
Arrhythmia posted:jesus christ i already talked myself out of just sending a particularly ornery ferret and now you're telling me i need to spring for a second tiger? holy loving poo poo the brass balls on this guy at least tell me how you're planning on training the dang things
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 03:10
|
|
|
Milkfred E. Moore posted:at least tell me how you're planning on training the dang things The scene where the tigers eat the dude who was training them is so strange and out of place. The image of the guy frantically trying to use his remote to call them off or whatever, as they bound towards him after completing their final test run... it's like something out of a bad James Bond screenplay. RIP dumbass henchman, we knew how you would die the second you stepped on screen.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 03:19
|
|
|
Milkfred E. Moore posted:at least tell me how you're planning on training the dang things i'll probably see the kids from a cliff top and start hitting their rumps with sticks, which should get 'em going
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 03:19
|
|
Arrhythmia posted:i'll probably see the kids from a cliff top and start hitting their rumps with sticks, which should get 'em going just like my days in the sardaukar Prolonged Priapism posted:The scene where the tigers eat the dude who was training them is so strange and out of place. The image of the guy frantically trying to use his remote to call them off or whatever, as they bound towards him after completing their final test run... it's like something out of a bad James Bond screenplay. RIP dumbass henchman, we knew how you would die the second you stepped on screen. absolutely. it's really kind of jarring when you first hit that chapter in children
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 03:42
|
|
|
I've never thought Wensicia was supposed to be a genuine threat way the Baron and Scytale were. The plan with the tigers was stupid, because Wensicia was an idiot and it was the kind of "brilliant" plan that would appeal to an idiot. I always imagined the sarduakar dude rolling his eyes behind her back, but kinda bound by duty to her.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 03:58
|
|
|
One of my favorite things about the syfy miniseries is the ridiculous hats.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 05:04
|
|
|
Elissimpark posted:I've never thought Wensicia was supposed to be a genuine threat way the Baron and Scytale were. The plan with the tigers was stupid, because Wensicia was an idiot and it was the kind of "brilliant" plan that would appeal to an idiot. I always imagined the sarduakar dude rolling his eyes behind her back, but kinda bound by duty to her. Yeah and no-one guessed that the twins were prescient. Alia had limited prescience, which was being hosed by the Tarot, and noone thought Fremen genes were worth poo poo. Remember that 90 generations of eugenics among the Major and Minor houses had produced Paul, and only 50% of that breeding was lost.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 07:32
|
|
|
Also, does anybody have any theories on what Leto meant when he renamed Farad'n?
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 07:33
|
|
|
MRC48B posted:One of my favorite things about the syfy miniseries is the ridiculous hats. Jesus that BG hat with the butterflies 
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 09:26
|
|
|
exmachina posted:Also, does anybody have any theories on what Leto meant when he renamed Farad'n? "Farad'n, that's a stupid name."
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 12:09
|
|
exmachina posted:Also, does anybody have any theories on what Leto meant when he renamed Farad'n? i'm emperor, bitch
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 12:24
|
|
|
Prolonged Priapism posted:Harq al-Ada is a great name! And he's a fine character. But drat, Farad'n is a dumb name. And then there’s Harq al Harba.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 13:23
|
|
|
Prolonged Priapism posted:ok but Wensicia is still a really cool name. Too bad about her son. Good names: Feyd Rautha Bad Names: Waff
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 13:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 21:53 |
|
|
BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Jesus that BG hat with the butterflies The beautiful butterfly is good enough a symbol for the Mighty Monarch! Testikles posted:Good names: You can really see there where Star Wars took so much influence from Dune. Hell, the Tusken Raiders are basically the equivalent of Fremen.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2018 13:35
|
|
