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pro starcraft loser posted:Sounds like a brokered agreement is under way. Which is good, since any last stand would probably result in thousands more killed. Israel hacked the SAA air-defenses to be on a five minute delay so the SAA forces thought they were shooting at the Israeli jets when they fired the missiles. This might seem like a joke but this is similar to what Israel did when they bombed Syria's secret nuclear reactor.
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qkkl posted:Israel hacked the SAA air-defenses to be on a five minute delay so the SAA forces thought they were shooting at the Israeli jets when they fired the missiles. This might seem like a joke but this is similar to what Israel did when they bombed Syria's secret nuclear reactor. I wonder how much it is an issue of undertrained crews and defects with the BUK IFF system considering its history. (Of course, this is all speculation at this point.)
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Ardennes posted:I wonder how much it is an issue of undertrained crews and defects with the BUK IFF system considering its history. (Of course, this is all speculation at this point.) Or just no comms with the russians in the air
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Man, vacation last week in Turkey was so nice with my Eurodollars. Lived like a loving king, even with 20% inflation. Dishing out those hundreds of liras for whatever is the most expensive in your stupid shop, you poor, sickly Turkish manlet. Fellate on my thick, sumptious wallet while I sort my thousands of bills, while you can't even afford the ekmek anymore. Hell Yeah. Now I understand why all Turkish in Europe vote AKP. gently caress you got mine. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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gonna punch the next akp voting Turk not actually living in Turkey i see, holy poo poo and the economy has not even collapsed yet. If you voted Erdogan and don't live there, even if this wasn't your intend, literally gently caress you Haramstufe Rot fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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I had never been in an indoor ACd pool before turkey. So loving nice okay touristy beach but nice hotel.
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LeoMarr posted:I had never been in an indoor ACd pool before turkey. So loving nice okay touristy beach but nice hotel. Wait, an indoor air conditioned pool sounds terrible unless you're somewhere miserably both hot and humid like Houston or Kuwait City. Air temp being lower than the water temp is like the most uncomfortable thing unless you're in a hot tub or a professional swimmer. Even in Cairo all of the pools are outdoors and it's a lot hotter than anywhere in Turkey.
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LeoMarr posted:Or just no comms with the russians in the air If the IFF was functional, it shouldn't matter.
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Ardennes posted:If the IFF was functional, it shouldn't matter. This feels like it's getting into Clancychat territory, but if the Israelis hacked the defense network and set the signatures to some kind of delay as someone above suggested, could an S200 be launched at the radar signature of an F16 that was gone 5 minutes ago and inadvertently end up locked onto the IL20? Or alternatively SAA AAA crewmen suck and the defense systems have bad or non-functional IFF. /shrug
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Objurium posted:This feels like it's getting into Clancychat territory, but if the Israelis hacked the defense network and set the signatures to some kind of delay as someone above suggested, could an S200 be launched at the radar signature of an F16 that was gone 5 minutes ago and inadvertently end up locked onto the IL20? Even on lovely systems radar resolution is a couple of meters. Also, IFF is irrelevant in combat and air defense crews use other methods to identify airplanes. When you interrogate an enemy airplane, what is it going to respond, "hello, I am an enemy airplane"? It either won't answer, or give a deceptive reply. The AA crew didn't have time to make a proper decision and they figured they would get in trouble if they didn't fire. Sometimes the crews rationalize not firing (Pearl Harbor), and sometimes they rationalize firing (Flight 655). It's always the same.
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Picture from the Aleppo citadel today taken by reddit poster Ballenuk; they live in Syria (and I believe they've said they have relatives in Aleppo) and they've been to Aleppo a few times now and posted pictures on the Syrian Civil War subreddit previously. https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/9h59x6/the_view_from_the_aleppo_citadel_today/ quote:Millero15:
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U.S. special forces beheaded a detainee in Iraq https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...m_medium=social
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Of course it is a seal
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HorrificExistence posted:U.S. special forces beheaded a detainee in Iraq Professional misconduct
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:Professional misconduct Seals gonna seal.
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Money over everything. https://twitter.com/DionNissenbaum/status/1042738818753998850
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Sinteres posted:Money over everything. But if we don't sell weapons to these horrible people, horrible people will sell them weapons!
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Count Roland posted:But if we don't sell weapons to these horrible people, horrible people will sell them weapons! Only part Lord of War got wrong was that arms dealers are even still necessary, when the US can just ship weapons wherever it likes and say: "gently caress you, bottom line errrr...I mean, national security!"
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Count Roland posted:But if we don't sell weapons to these horrible people, horrible people will sell them weapons! who, englishmen?
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Of course it is a seal Yep. At least he's in jail for it.
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there's been attack against an IRGC military parade in Ahvaz https://twitter.com/Hassanvand/status/1043395916076642307 e: 11 killed, 21 injured, 4 detained via borzou spaceships fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Sep 22, 2018 |
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The investigation was quick. https://mobile.twitter.com/JZarif/status/1043411744314601472
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awhazi separatists took responsibility according to this https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/1043428788267298817
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...a-idUSKCN1M2080 Reuters is reporting the death toll has risen to twenty-four, twelve of whom were Revolutionary Guards, and over sixty wounded. Four attackers; all dead. Deputy governor says the death toll is expected to rise further.
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several people claiming only deaths were irgc and thus acceptable and justified e: these people are all ideologues and won't add anything to the conversation e: a four year old was killed
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not a terrorist attack  https://twitter.com/abdullahawez/status/1043461656276287489 e: like i said, they're going to spin this as justified and ignore the civilian deaths
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spaceships posted:not a terrorist attack Somehow, I don't think that if the attack had targeted US or Israeli soldiers, they would be going all "umm, actually" about calling it a terror attack. Edit: superfluous double negation Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Sep 22, 2018 |
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killing us will always be justified e: i'm not ever going to lose sleep over dead irgc but it always seems so easy to portray dead iranians as a good thing for everyone else spaceships fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Sep 22, 2018 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Somehow, I don't think that if the attack had targeted US or Israeli soldiers, they would be going all "umm, actually" about calling it a terror attack. The USS Cole wasn't terrorism. I haven't had time to read up on this attack yet but it'll depend on the civilian casualties.
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reza loving pahlavi condemned it as a terrorist attack e: he offers his condolences to the armed forces and their families. https://twitter.com/ManotoNews/status/1043510658229256192
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https://twitter.com/Khaaasteh/status/1043451583168765952 e: iran talk breaks my brain and i'm excited to become extremely emotional and monumentally retarded e: i apparently can't just link the last tweet spaceships fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Sep 22, 2018 |
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spaceships posted:https://twitter.com/Khaaasteh/status/1043451583168765952 That group is tailor made to be a perfect enemy of Iran.
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Volkerball posted:The USS Cole wasn't terrorism. I haven't had time to read up on this attack yet but it'll depend on the civilian casualties. volkerball? cautioning us that dead shiiites might not be a bad thing? who could have seen it coming
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11 of those boys were conscripts and were there as part of their 2-year mandatory service
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spaceships posted:several people claiming only deaths were irgc and thus acceptable and justified spaceships posted:killing us will always be justified I think you were trying to go for some kind of ironic joke making these statements in quick succession but you just managed to make yourself look like an ideologue with nothing to add add to the conversation, gj.
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Volkerball posted:The USS Cole wasn't terrorism. The USS Cole wasn't in a street.
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e: i'm actually not going to bother
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Cat Mattress posted:The USS Cole wasn't in a street. I was just referring to your "if it had targeted Americans" point. Yes though, that is the key difference, and a parade, even if it is a military one, is a pretty sketchy target. Idk the total collateral damage count but there's reports at least one little kid was killed. This group is trying to avoid getting the ISIS stink on it by claiming that it distinguishes between civilian and military targets but it's not a very compelling argument given the nature of this attack.
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spaceships posted:e: i'm actually not going to bother You shouldn't. I don't like anyone who cheerleads for death itt, and I especially don't like hypocrites. If you want to make the point that this is a tragedy for Iran and should not be justified through some kind of twisted realpolitik, or counted as some kind of perverse win by Iran's enemies, you shouldn't instantly undercut yourself by directing the exact same kind of ugly feelings at another country. better just to drop the matter here.
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