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AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


so i made it to post-game and i can't believe dragon quest is doing a homestuck

edit: wow, what a terrible top of page, uh...

the musical score! all the callbacks to previous games are neat to hear, and do's music has also been kind of iterative with each installment, but i feel like the end result has left xi with very little musical identity of it's own? it's just so weird for me for a dq ost to not be at it's a-game

AriadneThread fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Sep 22, 2018

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LostRook
Jun 7, 2013

Mylan posted:

See, that event kinda confused me. The point you time travel to was after when she kills herself in act 1. So how did that whole plot get undone?

Well either a) it's because she doesn't kill herself if you don't tell her about Kai, or b) it's because gently caress you, we want a happy ending

Mylan
Jun 19, 2002



LostRook posted:

Well either a) it's because she doesn't kill herself if you don't tell her about Kai, or b) it's because gently caress you, we want a happy ending

So lying to her was the canon choice, huh? Kinda weird to see a Dragon Quest game actually give a different outcome to a yes/no question, though. This is the series that invented "but thou must."

LostRook
Jun 7, 2013

Mylan posted:

So lying to her was the canon choice, huh? Kinda weird to see a Dragon Quest game actually give a different outcome to a yes/no question, though. This is the series that invented "but thou must."

Well, no not quite. After all, for some reason they both remember her dying, if that's the choice you made.

HPanda
Sep 5, 2008

Fenrir posted:

Especially if you improve it in the forge - it starts at 100 charm, but goes to 150 if you get it to +3..

The end of the quest line also awards an awesome pep power. I took out (earliesh Act 2)the MC’s dad with a parade of fabulousness. Love that the MC gets dressed back up for the occasion.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:
Man, that middle(?) of Act 2 revisit to Arboria was a gut punch. I thought they were just gonna do the misdirection on me last minute.

Then it really hit me when the message that Serena now knows all of Veronica’s spells and abilities came up.

Horii why...

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
I'm gonna lose my mind listening to this mermaid, localizing these games seems more complex than getting a man to the moon

e: did I miss something? cause everyone is talking a pearl that sank to the bottom of the sea and I have no idea where we learned of this

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Sep 22, 2018

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987
Nothing can prepare you for when Sylvando returns. Holy gently caress that was amazing.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Expect My Mom posted:

I'm gonna lose my mind listening to this mermaid, localizing these games seems more complex than getting a man to the moon

e: did I miss something? cause everyone is talking a pearl that sank to the bottom of the sea and I have no idea where we learned of this

At some point Veronica was like "there's legends about a pearl at the bottom of the sea, maybe that's an orb" and that's about all there is to it

Professor of Cats
Mar 22, 2009

Guys, am I ever going to find these drat xbow targets? In any section???

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!
Alright goons, I just started DQ11. Well, I'm about 2 hours in. I didn't do all the quests in a particular area before I continued on in the game.

Am I screwed, and need to go back to restarting the game in order to get those quests done?

bentacos
Oct 9, 2012
As far as I know you can't fail any sidequests, and I'm in the post game.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

Professor of Cats posted:

Guys, am I ever going to find these drat xbow targets? In any section???

Yes, you can find them all and complete it before you even finish Act 1.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
i know understand every tenth post i saw asking what the gently caress slime quest is

what the gently caress is slime quest

lets hang out posted:

At some point Veronica was like "there's legends about a pearl at the bottom of the sea, maybe that's an orb" and that's about all there is to it
ah okay ty, yeah i assumed it was some party talk chatter i missed

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

i played the slots



hail satan

Leroy Dennui
Aug 9, 2014

Gina McCarthy made us gay,
but we would not have met
had Biden not dropped his cones
:gaysper::frogbon:

"Written in a very distinct, Old English style"?! You're killing me, Polygon.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

AriadneThread posted:

so i made it to post-game and i can't believe dragon quest is doing a homestuck



I legitimately do not know what you mean by that

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
Need snooze n' bruise for a quest target. Got characters with the goods. Got them ready, with the right weapons, pepped up. Doesn't appear for a pep ability. Quite sure I've used it with Hero and Erik before.

corn in the bible posted:

I legitimately do not know what you mean by that

I'm quite sure it means that you are a decent person.

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Sep 22, 2018

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Ghosts n Gopniks posted:

Need snooze n' bruise for a quest target. Got characters with the goods. Got them ready, with the right weapons, pepped up. Doesn't appear for a pep ability. Quite sure I've used it with Hero and Erik before.


I'm quite sure it means that you are a decent person.

Snooze n' Bruise requires specifically Sylvando to be the knife user. I have no idea why either.

In other news, beat my replay of DQ7 in my journey through replaying the series after finishing 11. Re-confirmed it as my favorite, though 11 HAS beaten out 6 for the second best slot in my mind. The insane length and variety of vignettes just really works for me, I guess? Like, I can see a lot of the weak points people complain about, but a lot them just don't really affect me. Like, people complaining about having to talk to random NPCs is just ??? for me since I ALREADY talk to every single NPC in a town after every single event while also pressing the party talk button after talking to every single one in case my party wants to comment on what they said (There is a surprising amount of these, even for stuff like revisiting old areas and such). I never minded having to re-do old areas because it's just more opportunity to get more job battles for my all-consuming need for fancy job stars. And revisiting towns in the present was always super cool, especially to see what they remembered of the old days. The last bit of it is still kinda weak, the game is really the strongest when you're still filling out islands imho.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Proteus Jones posted:

I couldn't stop laughing at Character 8's reaction to The Parade of Sylvando just slow rolling through monster infested wilderness. I immediately started a new save slot so I could re-load it whenever I wanted.

E: Also, re: character depth and beats I genuinely loved Syl's interaction with his papi

I'm pretty sure that scene, much like all the other cutscenes are available at the Mini Medal Acadamy if you touch the Yggdrisal branch next to the head office. No need to keep a save.

Rascyc posted:

Uses a lot of mp, can't be oomph'd. Air raiser should be doing quite a bit more single target damage at that point, but it also can't be oomph'd so.

I'm actually not really sure what boosts pearly gates come to think of it.

It's lightning Damage afaict, because it will lower enemies lightning resistance occassionally. The damage is probably supposed to be "light" but I'm not sure how you can tell.

ate shit on live tv fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Sep 22, 2018

FlyingCowOfDoom
Aug 1, 2003

let the beat drop
Started again with stronger monsters after reading everyone's opinion, thank you.

Are items in my item bag (slimedrop\lambswool\toad oil) safe to sell if they dont have an effect in the description or are they used in crafting later?

Poe
Jul 22, 2007




FlyingCowOfDoom posted:

Started again with stronger monsters after reading everyone's opinion, thank you.

Are items in my item bag (slimedrop\lambswool\toad oil) safe to sell if they dont have an effect in the description or are they used in crafting later?

Used in crafting, except for some coins which drop rarely.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

FlyingCowOfDoom posted:

Started again with stronger monsters after reading everyone's opinion, thank you.

Are items in my item bag (slimedrop\lambswool\toad oil) safe to sell if they dont have an effect in the description or are they used in crafting later?

If you look in the top right you'll see those are call "material" and they are given a rarity grade. No idea what uses them off the top of my head, but other then slime drop, those two aren't common so you probably want to hold on to them.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


IAmTheRad posted:

Alright goons, I just started DQ11. Well, I'm about 2 hours in. I didn't do all the quests in a particular area before I continued on in the game.

Am I screwed, and need to go back to restarting the game in order to get those quests done?

I was gonna come in and ask the same thing so I'll ask another question instead.

Are the Draconic challenges or whatever particular rewarding? I've heard monsters aren't difficult enough at base but I'm not certain i actually care :v:

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

FlyingCowOfDoom posted:

Started again with stronger monsters after reading everyone's opinion, thank you.

Are items in my item bag (slimedrop\lambswool\toad oil) safe to sell if they dont have an effect in the description or are they used in crafting later?

Keep, You might need them later.

Hell, I've never sold anything in this game and I'm still rolling around in a scrooge mcduck money bin. You can *almost* always craft better stuff than you can find for sale and most materials are easy to farm, cheap to buy, or both. Gold just doesn't do much in this game unless you don't like the crafting minigame for whatever reason.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
I'm only about 20 hours in and just recently found the Casino in Puerto Valor. Is there a faster way to get to the 150K tokens I need for the good sword and spear than just spamming slots?

Ojetor
Aug 4, 2010

Return of the Sensei

Some Numbers posted:

I'm only about 20 hours in and just recently found the Casino in Puerto Valor. Is there a faster way to get to the 150K tokens I need for the good sword and spear than just spamming slots?

Poker is faster, though it does require (slightly) more attention.

Poe
Jul 22, 2007




Some Numbers posted:

I'm only about 20 hours in and just recently found the Casino in Puerto Valor. Is there a faster way to get to the 150K tokens I need for the good sword and spear than just spamming slots?

Double or nothing on the poker table, but Slime Quest is pretty fast anyway. Probably don't worry about those though. You get better things to use the tokens on later, plus more profitable options for gambling.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Poe posted:

Double or nothing on the poker table, but Slime Quest is pretty fast anyway. Probably don't worry about those though. You get better things to use the tokens on later, plus more profitable options for gambling.

Slime Quest's autorunning is nice, but I found I wasn't making nearly as big a profit as just spinning the regular slots and hitting Metal Mode.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

You do find those platinum weapons and/or recipes to make them out in the world. They're aren't endgame gear, just some of the strongest weapons in the first act. Nice to have early for stronger monsters, pretty unnecessary otherwise.

Also the greatsword is insanely ugly :argh:

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
Yeah I goofed around in the casino a bit, but figured there would probably be a better casino later on and all this gear would be outclassed so I just bought what I could with what I had and left with like 10k tokens in the bank

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



ate poo poo on live tv posted:

I'm pretty sure that scene, much like all the other cutscenes are available at the Mini Medal Acadamy if you touch the Yggdrisal branch next to the head office. No need to keep a save.

Well drat, I completely overlooked that branch. Thanks!

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

lets hang out posted:

Also the greatsword is insanely ugly :argh:

If you think that's ugly, wait till you see (Act 3) the greatsword from Cobblestone. Jesus Christ it's bad.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Fenrir posted:

If you think that's ugly, wait till you see (Act 3) the greatsword from Cobblestone. Jesus Christ it's bad.

Are you dissing the Soul Calibur? :colbert:

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Some Numbers posted:

Slime Quest's autorunning is nice, but I found I wasn't making nearly as big a profit as just spinning the regular slots and hitting Metal Mode.

I let slime quest auto run for nearly 200 turns and it did nothing but lose me tokens. Then it would be like wow jackpot you got 180 and I bounced, it's very cute but utter garbage.

Also is the google doc missing a puff-puff scene? I went around to get the trophy and it's not popping.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

lets hang out posted:

You do find those platinum weapons and/or recipes to make them out in the world. They're aren't endgame gear, just some of the strongest weapons in the first act. Nice to have early for stronger monsters, pretty unnecessary otherwise.

Also the greatsword is insanely ugly :argh:

I'm certainly not expecting the first casino to have endgame gear and I have no desire to do Greatswords.

I'm looking at the spear for either Jade or Serena and stocking up on some Yggdrasil Leaves.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
I got Jade and Rab the other day. What should I be putting their points into?

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Steve Yun posted:

I got Jade and Rab the other day. What should I be putting their points into?

Whatever you think sounds cool, honestly. It's so cheap to respec that it won't set you back if you decide to try something else.

Edit: It could be nice to know that Jade's "Thunder Thrust" ability in the spear tree is great for grinding metal slimes.

Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Sep 22, 2018

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!

Some Numbers posted:

I'm certainly not expecting the first casino to have endgame gear and I have no desire to do Greatswords.

I'm looking at the spear for either Jade or Serena and stocking up on some Yggdrasil Leaves.

The spear will last you a long time.

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Professor of Cats
Mar 22, 2009

8-bit Miniboss posted:

Yes, you can find them all and complete it before you even finish Act 1.
RE: targets
I SUCK AT THIS. I can't find poo poo.

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