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VivaLa Eeveelution
Apr 3, 2011

Robindaybird posted:

BAC as a break from the eyesores, and line the walls with those dipped strawberry fences, and as many fruity lamps as possible.


And eesh, that's the leadup to a divorce type argument,

Seconding BAC for different reasons; brown walls, brown floor, and brown seats because everything's going to poo poo. :cry:

............:munch:

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Fates End
Oct 17, 2009
Glad to see the makers of this game by making the fresh choice of having Armand, instead of being driven to another woman by fighting, cheat on his wife and then start fighting with her over something totally different.

What do you think are the odds he'll use this as an excuse when Delia finds out?

Also, I find it sadly funny that Delia is way more likable as an antagonist than she is as a protagonist.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


What the gently caress, they've only been married how long, and even if they had a pretty boring relationship without much chemistry it seemed all fine and happily boring the last time we saw them together. But he goes from zero to rear end in a top hat in no time at all, complaining about her "constant attitude" sounding like he's been resenting her for years by now, Jesus H Christ.

Keldulas
Mar 18, 2009

Fates End posted:

Glad to see the makers of this game by making the fresh choice of having Armand, instead of being driven to another woman by fighting, cheat on his wife and then start fighting with her over something totally different.

What do you think are the odds he'll use this as an excuse when Delia finds out?

Also, I find it sadly funny that Delia is way more likable as an antagonist than she is as a protagonist.

She's way more likeable because she's showing an actual personality now. And given how big of an rear end in a top hat Armand is, we're basically rooting for her even though we know it's unlikely to end well for her.

Though..... we only have 1 conventional restaurant and haven't gotten any more. I wonder if Delia is actually going to become the protagonist and we're going to split up with Armand and lose Trieze a Table.

Too bad the mechanics with the 'specialty' restaurants look atrocious.

malkav11
Aug 7, 2009
I'm confused by the shortbread cookies with the 12 Maraschino cherries each. It's not that you couldn't put them in cookies, I suppose, but it's certainly not something I associate with traditional shortbread cookies and they're not mentioned in the title of the recipe. Also I think at the point you're putting in 12 there'd be way more cherry than cookie.

SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

End Session?

EAB to make it look like a really cheap public bathroom as much as possible.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

malkav11 posted:

I'm confused by the shortbread cookies with the 12 Maraschino cherries each. It's not that you couldn't put them in cookies, I suppose, but it's certainly not something I associate with traditional shortbread cookies and they're not mentioned in the title of the recipe. Also I think at the point you're putting in 12 there'd be way more cherry than cookie.

It's one cherry per cookie, like this:

someone awful.
Sep 7, 2007


Voting BAD just like this game. Cause uh, yeowza.

That was actually pretty uncomfortable to read!

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

Robindaybird posted:

How far are we in the game calendar wise, Enchanted Hat? I don't think a year has even passed.

In game terms, we're two years and six months into Restaurant Empire 2, but the logic of the game is that each mission is generally one month. So the game thinks we've been at this for eight months.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Anyway decorwise I vote BAD, every table get's a nice brown pastery display, and as many of those beautiful strawberry chocolate dip paintings as you can mount.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
It's a little belated, but Armand is lying about the origin of Lobster Thermidor, here. The dish was probably created by Parisian chef Tony Girod in 1891 for Victorien Sardou, in honor of Sardou's new play "Thermidor", about an actor in Revolutionary France who gets caught up in the Terror and the fall of Robespierre. Escoffier made a modified version, adding thyme and nutmeg to the sauce, and that became the version that's now famous.

The_White_Crane
May 10, 2008


There... there aren't any bananas in that. :psyduck:
Why are there no bananas Armand? Why are there no bananas?

... also Armand is a giant rear end in a top hat. Though Delia is lying through her teeth about how much money her coffee shops are making.

Keldulas
Mar 18, 2009

someone awful. posted:

Voting BAD just like this game. Cause uh, yeowza.

That was actually pretty uncomfortable to read!

It's honestly a reasonably written domestic dispute. But.... why is it here?

I kind of feel though that the writing is somewhat divorced (hurr hurr) from the gameplay. I think the coffee shops were INTENDED to be somewhat equivalent, but they hosed up the execution. From what Enchanted Hat says, there aren't any customers that walk in to buy a drink then leave. But.... that's a lot of a coffee shop's business as well. I find it weird they added the laptop people but omitted that, considering having someone walk in, buy something, and leave would probably be less effort.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Keldulas posted:

It's honestly a reasonably written domestic dispute. But.... why is it here?

I kind of feel though that the writing is somewhat divorced (hurr hurr) from the gameplay. I think the coffee shops were INTENDED to be somewhat equivalent, but they hosed up the execution. From what Enchanted Hat says, there aren't any customers that walk in to buy a drink then leave. But.... that's a lot of a coffee shop's business as well. I find it weird they added the laptop people but omitted that, considering having someone walk in, buy something, and leave would probably be less effort.

yeah that's my impression is the Patisseries and Coffee shop isn't suppose suck as much as they do, but their recipes are awful unless you pump a lot into the research, and I think they don't do walk ins because they didn't want to go through the effort of animating someone picking up a cup and walking with a coffee cup in hand.

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

The_White_Crane posted:

There... there aren't any bananas in that. :psyduck:
Why are there no bananas Armand? Why are there no bananas?

Oh yes, we have no bananas.
We have no bananas today.

Zagglezig
Oct 16, 2012
I could absolutely believe that the banana split was supposed to be some souffle recipe like the Armand pick-a-chef contestant said, but someone put the wrong name and image on it and they didn't bother changing anything except the name of the contest text with "banana souffle" to vaguely fit the image.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

The_White_Crane posted:



There... there aren't any bananas in that. :psyduck:
Why are there no bananas Armand? Why are there no bananas?

... also Armand is a giant rear end in a top hat. Though Delia is lying through her teeth about how much money her coffee shops are making.

yeah this is the most what the gently caress recipe so far. a banana split is so easy to make, children can do it. it contains

-banana
-ice cream
-whipped cream
-nuts and or chocolate sauce
-a cherry

things that are not, ever, in any way, in a banana split

-all of the listed ingredients in this image

i agree with Zagglezig, it has to be a huge typo

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013

What's that kitchen equipment thing that looks like a toilet that's required for the banana split? Is it an actual toilet? Is Armand using literal toilet water for his dishes?

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
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Aesculus posted:

Is Armand using literal toilet water for his dishes?

It's a common problem with French chefs. He meant to use eau de toilette.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Banana splits with no bananas.
Rose tea without the tea.
Waffles with no flour.
An 'almond, sugar, flour' almond tart with no eggs, butter, or other binding agents.

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

Zagglezig posted:

I could absolutely believe that the banana split was supposed to be some souffle recipe like the Armand pick-a-chef contestant said, but someone put the wrong name and image on it and they didn't bother changing anything except the name of the contest text with "banana souffle" to vaguely fit the image.

This is probably pretty close to the truth. It can't have been a soufflé recipe because there are no eggs in it, but somehow they tied the ingredients of a very basic cake or cookie recipe to the banana split. I don't even know how that would happen, though.


Pharohman777 posted:

Banana splits with no bananas.
Rose tea without the tea.
Waffles with no flour.
An 'almond, sugar, flour' almond tart with no eggs, butter, or other binding agents.

*finger snaps*

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Maybe whoever was in charge of recipes was trying to see how closely anyone else was paying attention.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

Aesculus posted:

What's that kitchen equipment thing that looks like a toilet that's required for the banana split? Is it an actual toilet? Is Armand using literal toilet water for his dishes?

Ice cream maker?

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances
Episode 9: Barefaced



Chef Armand.

Hello Chef. La Lune Vague has been treating you well?

Yes Chef. The restaurant has been a splendid experience so far.

Excellent! I'm happy for you. Well, I'm not going to beat around the bush with you here. The reason why I called you is because I wanted to tell you that I've signed you up for one of the culinary contests here in France. I wanted to give you a heads up and prepare yourself for the upcoming contest.

I'm honoured that you've put so much faith in me Chef…

Well, as I said before, I think you're very talented in the kitchen.

You haven't asserted yourself enough to give me an accurate impression. But I have every confidence in your abilities. You are my apprentice after all.

I'm grateful for this opportunity sir. I won't let you down.

I know you won't.



So, since Armand is already the greatest chef in the world, there really isn't a reason for him to be competing in cooking competitions and climbing the chef leaderboards. So what's the solution? Have his apprentice do it instead! This will be the beginning of the meteoric rise of Ozkan "doesn't know what a soufflé is" Zygmunt!

But first, let's check out the new Amo La Torta



Welcome to brown town. This could have been themed as a tropical beach :argh:!



With the restaurant looking like this, the festive pineapple and grapefruit lamps are just a cruel reminder of what might have been.



Since the last mission took so long to complete, I've managed to research a bunch of new patisserie recipes. This is the first one, the fruit cake. At this point, I'd like to see just one Restaurant Empire recipe that uses a reasonable amount of flour.



This is the most polygonal cake yet. You could cut yourself on those edges.



These just look kind of sad.



These are supposed to contain jam, but the recipe makes up for that by adding way too much sugar.



I don't actually know what's in vanilla creamer, so I'm just going to assume that this recipe is fine.



This is approximately one trillion calories and probably delicious.



I'd like to know what kind of eldritch magic you'd need to use to turn milk, raspberries and a tiny bit of sugar and cream into what's in that picture.



That is not a pudding. That's weak carrot soup.



There's an overlap between patisserie beverage recipes and coffee shop recipes. When you're researching patisserie beverages, you'll nearly always get something that can also be served at your coffee shops. This would be useful if patisseries and coffee shops weren't both totally awful.



Finally I can serve overpriced alcohol at my patisseries and coffee shops!

Now, before we start the business day properly and get inundated with even more recipes, let's go and challenge the cooking contest!



This is Le Stade St-Jean, France's premier cooking arena! It looks like they totally rebuilt it in the time between Restaurant Empire 1 and 2. Cooking is a very big deal in this universe.



The rules of the cooking contest are simple. There is only one round and the competing chefs are allowed to cook any French dish.

The French local contest is the lowest tier of the cooking contest ladder. Ozkan will be competing against amateurs cooking mediocre recipes.



Meanwhile, we have the ultimate recipe from Restaurant Empire 1, the stuffed lamb in a potato crust with truffles which we used to crush OmniFood once and for all. This should be easy.



In Restaurant Empire 1, you could pick your own team of chefs for the cooking contests (except the very last one). In Restaurant Empire 2, they put a stop to that, and now they're much more restrictive about who gets to enter the contests. So any hypothetical "spite run" of Restaurant Empire 2 where you transfer Delia to Treize à Table and turn her into your star chef while Armand toils in the coffee shops is not going to work, unfortunately :(.



I know I've said this before, but cooking is a big deal in this universe. Look at this arena!



At the top left of this screen, we see our chosen recipe and three numbers: 100%, 85% and 90%. 100% is Ozkan's personal skill at cooking the chosen recipe. He's had a very long time to practice, so he cooks the stuffed lamb perfectly. 85% is the quality of the recipe itself, based on its inherent quality and the quality of our ingredients. 90% is the skill- and recipe quality-weighted score of the dish that we're making. This is your minimum score. You can help your chef during the cooking contest in order to raise the final score a couple of points.



By completing these intense, high-speed minigames! Do you remember the first six letters of the alphabet?!



Can you click a button once the yellow dot is near the red dot?!



Can you, um, see if one image is pretty similar to another image? Do you have functioning eyes?



If you do, you'll probably do okay in this contest. Ozkan beat the competition by 41 points out of 100.



To celebrate, let's do a little dance!



:toot:



We win $10,000 as well as this recipe for fish wellington. In Restaurant Empire 1, Armand made a special version of this recipe which he named "Delia Wellington", dedicated to his beloved Delia. I guess he doesn't bother doing that anymore, since now it's just "fish wellington" again.



For some reason, the game usually allows you to beat the cooking contests a second time for more prize money and another recipe. This time we win the recipe for carbonara. Curiously enough, this is the same recipe we won after repeating the first cooking contest in Restaurant Empire 1. Deliberate callback or laziness? You decide!



Now let's get back to business at Amo La Torta. I notice that we're actually floating quite a lot of cash at the moment, so it'd be a good idea to pay back our bank loans.



Bam! Debt free. As long as we don't get any more useless, unprofitable restaurants, we should be able to stay above water going forward.



I bought this pastry recipe. The quality rating is really good compared to our other pastry recipes, but unfortunately this is cooked in a coffee shop blender (somehow?), which means it'll take really long to cook. I'll still use it at I Heart Cake since we get so few customers there.



I also buy this raisin cinnamon roll recipe. Whoever theorised that we used up most of the world's cinnamon supply during Restaurant Empire 1 was probably right.



And after buying this recipe for another $46,000 or so, we're right back to having no next to no money. Time to go into debt again!



The guests are definitely getting greedier. At the beginning of the game, wholesalers would ask us for $3,000 to establish a supply relationship. Then for a while it was $6,000, and now they're asking for $9,000. I think they can smell weakness.



You buy sixteen cakes. What do you get?



Another day older and deeper in debt.

We now have slightly more debt than we had before I paid off our debt at the start of this mission :sigh:.

I'm going to do what Armand does and try to escape my problems at the TV studio.



Where were you?

Whoa! I didn't know you were there. You startled me…

Well? WHERE WERE YOU?



Uh oh! Armand has been out all night, and we need to think up an alibi! Let's pretend it was work.

I was over at the studio. We just finished prepping for the next taping.

Why are you still up this late in the morning?

I'll ask the questions.

Seems awfully convenient for you though isn't it, having these excuses for your late nights?

What are you saying exactly? Look, I can't help it if something comes up… what are you insinuating here honestly?

You're lying to me aren't you?

Okay, I don't like where this is going and I don't appreciate your tone. I'm telling you.



Oh poo poo, she didn't buy that! Let's try another excuse.

We were doing a late service in the restaurant… What else do you want me to say?!

I knew you were lying! You can't even get your excuses straight! How long has this streak of yours been going on huh? HOW LONG?!


Wait, no, that made it worse.

I was at the studio prepping… What else do you want me to say?!

No, I don't believe you. I can tell when you lie. Your eyes blink a few more times than usual whenever you do. And you're doing that now. You're hiding something from me…

What?! I'm telling you the truth. I can't believe you don't believe me!

Just tell me Armand. Be honest with me… are you having an affair?

I… I… can't believe this… I can't believe you don't trust me… I'm speechless… I'm

So I guess that's it, you don't trust me? Hmph! FINE!!... I'm outta here!

Fine! And don't come back!!



Well, that could have gone better. Let's just go and do an episode.



Tonight, we are pulling out a vegetarian's dream. We've got an entrée soup for you today as well as a main course with vegetables as our main ingredients. The soup in question would be my very own Pasta Vegetable Chowder.

Full disclosure folks, this isn't actually my own recipe. This was passed on to me by my mum who was an excellent cook herself. I made a few tweaks here and there and voila…



I will say this, Armand is definitely a pro. The show must go on!



For our main course, I am going to show you how to make the Cream of Broccoli Baked Potato. Unlike the entrée we'd just prepared, this recipe is totally my own handiwork.

A common mistake green cooks experience with baking potato is that they just dump their peeled potatoes in a baking pan. This creates a very uneven product. What you want to do is poke a few holes into your potatoes with a fork first and…



I never noticed until now just how weird this TV kitchen is. Wood diamond wallpaper over dark green countertops?



That's it for today. I hope you enjoyed our show. From all of us here in the sandy beaches of Miami, we bid you goodnight. Remember, creativity and variety are the best ingredients in cooking; get those two mixing together and you'll have one happy stomach! Take care everyone!


Wait, what? Miami? Maybe Armand really is a bit rattled, he even forgot his dumb little signoff catchphrase.



Anyway, we won the mission! A lot of stuff happened that wasn't that great, but at least we didn't get any more patisseries. Let's hope that's a continuing trend!

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy


why is grated chocolate a distinct ingredient from chocolate

also way to storm out when your wife correctly sniffs out your philandering, armand

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Are you sure you aren't manipulating the text you transcribe cause holymoly is Armand an rear end in a top hat. :stare:

Also questions for... reasons: Can you determine where the toilets are in the building?

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

Zedd posted:

Are you sure you aren't manipulating the text you transcribe cause holymoly is Armand an rear end in a top hat. :stare:

Also questions for... reasons: Can you determine where the toilets are in the building?

I'm doing my very best to transcribe the text as faithfully as possible. Which is very hard, as Restaurant Empire 2's script's relationship with punctuation and spelling is more strained than Armand's relationship with Delia.

And yeah, the toilet is in the kitchen. We use it for some of our ice cream recipes. We can customise the bathrooms, I just haven't talked about it because I figured it wouldn't be that interesting.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
I hope Armand goes off on a cocaine-fuelled bender after Delia and...whatshername, his mistress, both dump him. We can have a Scarface-style showdown, except with cooking instead of machineguns! Somehow Armand will end up dead at the end anyway though.

LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.
This restaurant simulator suddenly having a part where you have to lie about cheating on your wife is the exact sort of madness that makes this game so wonderful to watch, even if Armand is just the worst.


TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I hope Armand goes off on a cocaine-fuelled bender after Delia and...whatshername, his mistress, both dump him. We can have a Scarface-style showdown, except with cooking instead of machineguns! Somehow Armand will end up dead at the end anyway though.

It ends how it began, with Armand lying in an alley, covered in cinnamon.

Zagglezig
Oct 16, 2012
Just an observational question, but does it look to anyone else like the texture for the pot lid is a partly cloudy sky with a pot handle bit put on top?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
A lot of celebrity/high profile chefs seem to have a lot of personal and relationship problems - I guess we can thank Food Network and Anthont Bourdain for glamorizing the industry, but christ I would never want to be part of it.

I also can't keep track of time in this series and can't remember where Armand & Co live but it's a little odd that Delilah was angry at Armand for being out all night when he was busy flying to and from LA/Miami and France... pretty sure that takes more than a day.

We also turned our new pastry joint I to a low effort tiki bar.

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

We can finally make the high-class french pastry recipe, the Pop Tart. :allears:

...or the world's thinnest mille-feuille. Either or.

Zagglezig posted:

Just an observational question, but does it look to anyone else like the texture for the pot lid is a partly cloudy sky with a pot handle bit put on top?


It does. I wonder if it's reflecting what's above it, and they simply didn't bother putting a closed roof above Armand's set.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Psychotic Weasel posted:

A lot of celebrity/high profile chefs seem to have a lot of personal and relationship problems - I guess we can thank Food Network and Anthony Bourdain for glamorizing the industry, but christ I would never want to be part of it.

I also can't keep track of time in this series and can't remember where Armand & Co live but it's a little odd that Delilah was angry at Armand for being out all night when he was busy flying to and from LA/Miami and France... pretty sure that takes more than a day.

We also turned our new pastry joint I to a low effort tiki bar.

I keep getting an impression they live in LA, but given they also consider it reasonable to fly a man from Paris to LA to work in a grocery store as a favor, I don't think the creators has just as much knowledge of travel as they do recipes.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Enchanted Hat posted:



I don't actually know what's in vanilla creamer, so I'm just going to assume that this recipe is fine.

Doesn't a sundae traditionally involve ice cream?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

Robindaybird posted:

I keep getting an impression they live in LA, but given they also consider it reasonable to fly a man from Paris to LA to work in a grocery store as a favor, I don't think the creators has just as much knowledge of travel as they do recipes.

Perhaps in this universe, in addition to having no restaurants or cinnamon, the North American and European continents have collided once again so they're much closer than they are now...

Snorb
Nov 19, 2010

ultrafilter posted:

Doesn't a sundae traditionally involve ice cream?

Well, sure, if you wanna do it the easy way!

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Don't be like Armand.

Say no to cinnamon.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Its amazing that the apricot-mint tea has tea in it.

Hauki
May 11, 2010


Pharohman777 posted:

Its amazing that the apricot-mint tea has tea in it.

I'm just amazed it doesn't have 2.5 tbps of flour in it

and actually contains all the titular ingredients

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Music Junkie
Sep 30, 2012

That's right, embrace the cute. Embrace it. You know you want to.
I'd eat the coffee parfait, that actually looks good and has a semi-reasonable amount of actual ingredients. Also jesus christ on a pogo stick Armand, you can't keep it together, can you. :cripes: This is going to be an utter, utter sideshow, and the fallout will be painful. On the other hand, it's going to be an INTERESTING sideshow, at least.

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