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Sep 24, 2018 13:32
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I like all the star wars, and I like the extended universe poo poo, even the really bad stuff, because it was star wars and i was getting the poo poo kicked out of me for liking star wars and trying to buy weed in public restrooms. the new star wars is awesome, and i enjoy it and that doesn't make it good but i want to talk about stuff i enjoy but no-one else does because no one else enjoys it.
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Sep 24, 2018 13:47
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There is no star wars opinion that is unpopular. Any opinion you have about it is shared by millions of people, whether it's thinking they suck or are overrated, or that you want to gently caress the robots. Stargate is a more interesting/compelling scifi franchise anyway and they are/were the ones who should be getting huge budget movies. Who needs laser swords and blasters when you can blast a bunch of jaffas with a p90 and some claymores?
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Sep 24, 2018 13:47
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Star Wars isn’t sci fi
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Sep 24, 2018 13:55
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The whole arguing about opinions on the internet thing is probably just the start of humanity realising that sentience is a really bad thing and the entire human species is massively mentallly ill and unable to cope with the demands of modern life.
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Sep 24, 2018 14:08
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If you buy cheap hotdogs for a cookout then you're a terrible person.
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Sep 24, 2018 14:11
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You should eat pizzas with a knife and fork.
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Sep 24, 2018 14:24
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Star Wars isn’t sci fi it's about aliens and it's fiction, what else would it be and so help me god if you start making things up like "space operas" i'm going to be mildly annoyed and might make a post about it
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Sep 24, 2018 14:32
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It's science fantasy. Science fiction is about exploration of possibilities using best guesses on actual science. Real science fiction is dense and slow and boring for a ton of people. Star wars is just a fantasy story set in space, so the genre is called science fantasy. It literally has people fighting with swords and magic.
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Sep 24, 2018 14:34
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So it's a sub-genre of science fiction. It's still accurate to say it's science fiction. Stop trying to do to movies what they did to music with post noise grind megacore or whatever, broad labels are OK.
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Sep 24, 2018 14:36
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yeah I eat rear end posted:So it's a sub-genre of science fiction. It's still accurate to say it's science fiction. Stop trying to do to movies what they did to music with post noise grind megacore or whatever, broad labels are OK. It’s a subgenre of fantasy. It doesn’t fit any definition of sci-fi.
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Sep 24, 2018 14:40
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It's fun to argue about popular culture stuff because we all relate to it and nobody gets hurt.
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Sep 24, 2018 14:53
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Henchman of Santa posted:It’s a subgenre of fantasy. It doesn’t fit any definition of sci-fi. 
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Sep 24, 2018 14:56
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Yeah, you wouldn't call The Hobbit historical fiction or dark ages sci fi. PHUO: The Hobbit movies weren't just awful, they retroactively ruined the good LotR movies. Fellowship alone could make me overlook a mountain of criticisms of the later two movies but now I can't see Orlando Bloom or comic relief Gimli or Sir Ian as Gandalf without seeing PS3 cutscene love triangles and stupid sexy Thorin and GandalfxGaladriel. I'd watch an Attack of the Clones threepeat before sitting through the Hobbit trilogy again. The Star Wars prequels at least have podracing and memes and Ian McDiarmid chewing the scenery like a pro. The Hobbit films have nothing. Who would you rather watch: Hobbit Christopher Lee or COUNT MOTHERFUCKIN DOOKU? Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 15:01 on Sep 24, 2018 |
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Sep 24, 2018 14:57
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That's why there's the scale of sci do hardness. Also the hobbit can't be historical fiction as it's a totally made up thing. It's just fiction. Fantasy, specifically. Star wars is soft sci fi. Science fantasy works too given that it has literal space wizards but really, it isn't trying to be hard sci fi at all. Edit: also yes the hobbit trilogy was...not all that good. First one was rad. Second was ok. Third was BORING.
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Sep 24, 2018 17:05
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My Star Wars opinion wasn’t intended to be unpopular. I was responding to another post.
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Sep 24, 2018 17:47
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Science fiction and fantasy are the same genre.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:06
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docbeard posted:Science fiction and fantasy are the same genre. How so?
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Sep 24, 2018 18:09
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There's like 900 music genres now, why not the same for films? Star Wars is Sci-Fan.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:10
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Solice Kirsk posted:If you buy cheap hotdogs for a cookout then you're a terrible person.  What are you? The wiener police?
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Sep 24, 2018 18:11
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spit on my clit posted:How so? Robots and elves are the same thing.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:26
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More serious answer: rigid genre definitions are useless, and genre arguments are tedious, but if I had to argue the point, I'd say that neither science fiction nor fantasy is actually a genre as such, since all they really end up impacting is a story's setting. They're modifiers that can be applied to pretty much any genre (romance BUT IN MAGIC LAND, mystery/crime BUT WITH VAMPIRES, political thriller BUT IN SPACE, etc.) Besides, genres are really just marketing tools. You shouldn't care about them unless you work in a bookstore.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:31
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star trek is also western fantasy but more in the vein of dnd it's replete with elves, warrior culture barbarians, roman analogues, races with fantastic telepathic powers and the sexual kinks of the creators weigh in heavily on every adventure hard counter has a new favorite as of 19:05 on Sep 24, 2018 |
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Sep 24, 2018 18:36
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hard counter posted:star trek is also western fantasy but more in the vain of dnd Star Trek was literally pitched as a space western in the 60s (Wagon Train BUT IN SPACE), so yeah, pretty much.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:38
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Star Wars isn’t sci fi yeah I eat rear end posted:Stop trying to do to movies what they did to music with post noise grind megacore or whatever, broad labels are OK. But genre was a worthless concept to begin with. Even if we used narrower definitions we'd still never agree on what they are or which works fall into particular categories. There's too much nuance for it to ever be possible to sort art into strict categories.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:42
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This all started with someone objecting to saying that star wars and stargate are in the same genre. I'm on the side of broad labels because it doesn't actually matter. It's needlessly pedantic to go all "well actually star wars is a science fantasy" as if that invalidates anything I was trying to say.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:47
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Aramek posted:It's fun to argue about popular culture stuff because we all relate to it and nobody gets hurt. Exactly. We're suppose to stay away from politics in here and now pop culture and food are being pushed out. The unpopular opinions are going to start getting real specific. Opinion: All my friends really like Sean, but I think Sean is kind of a dick.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:48
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yeah I eat rear end posted:This all started with someone objecting to saying that star wars and stargate are in the same genre.
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Sep 24, 2018 18:56
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Tiggum posted:I would be difficult to make the case that they're not the same content genre. Both involve a combination of futuristic technology and magic. Both are about good guys going on adventures in space to fight bad guys. The biggest difference is that one's a series of movies and the other's on TV so the story structure is different, but that doesn't change whether they're sci-fi, fantasy, science-fantasy or whatever. Right, my unpopular opinion was that I would have been more interested in a gigantic budget stargate series of movies than more star wars ones. Even the low budget stargate movies were pretty decent, especially Continuum. Overall I find it easier to "immerse" myself mentally in a story about the US military blowing poo poo up they don't understand, often by accident, than a bunch of space monks with lasers that shoot lightning out of their hands.
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Sep 24, 2018 19:02
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If I write a story where an elf discovers he has special magic powers and learns to fight with a sword and ride a dragon and his dragon destroys the bad guy base with fire breath, it doesn’t change genres if I change him to a psychic alien with a laser sword and an archaeotech ship that fires singularity photon taser beams
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Sep 24, 2018 19:14
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Regarding Sci-fi vs. fantasy, I was always under the impression that Sci-fi was typically supposed to be focused on exploring the future whereas fantasy was more backward focused. I agree with the people that have posted that it's largely genre semantics that don't really matter; a good story is a good story regardless of whether it includes spaceships or dragons, science or magic. The problem is when people point to one thing (like that there's space travel or aliens) and immediately try to put it in a specific box. It's obvious that George Lucas used many elements of classical fairy tales in Star Wars and just updated it with a futuristic setting. This is a series that includes lots of fairy tale staples such as: a wise old wizard who teaches magic, a hero that comes from humble beginnings, talking animals, sword fights and rescuing a literal princess. And, most telling of all, every movie starts the exact way all classic fairy tales do: "Once a long, long time ago in a
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Sep 25, 2018 04:05
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Yes, it's all just semantics. Star Wars is a fantasy story in a sci fi setting and I wouldn't fault anyone for using either descriptor.
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Sep 25, 2018 05:07
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Starship Troopers gets better with each additional film.
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Sep 25, 2018 05:21
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starship troopers is the ram ranch of movie series
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Sep 25, 2018 05:24
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They are up to five films now. Five hard films with five different shower scenes. A hard shower scene in every hard film.
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Sep 25, 2018 05:42
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18 naked troopers in the showers at starship troopers! big hard throbbing bugs wanting to be sucked!
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Sep 25, 2018 05:51
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There was absolutely no reason for Dizzy to get such a big military funeral. She was just a grunt, not even an officer.
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Sep 25, 2018 05:56
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Starship Troopers is Generation Kill for folks without HBO or Amazon Prime and also want Fruity Rudy to have female breasts.
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Sep 25, 2018 06:02
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Throw pillows are the dumbest thing that basically everyone has in their house. Having 20 pillows on your bed doesn't make it look good. It certainly doesn't make it look comfortable/inviting, because you know if you ever want to lay down on it you have to chuck all those on the floor which will get you yelled at. The only thing you should do with throw pillows is throw them in the trash. They exist only to cause arguments.
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Sep 25, 2018 12:47
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the popularity of releasing movies and shows only on streaming services is going to lead to a lot of stuff getting lost forever. Like those old silent films that are gone forever.
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Sep 25, 2018 12:56
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