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oriongates posted:It's more common for it to be an albino red dragon, players gear up for a relatively weak white dragon and load up on fire-based attacks and cold resistance only to be dumped into a harder fight with a fireproof opponent. The whole 'actually it's an albino <different dragon type>' is the dumbest loving grog thing and I know there had to be plenty of smug assholes who did it. And of course was all part of an arms race of trying to work in rules as physics which if course the dm wins because when you know something they don't they can smugly say 'well achtually in this world that's not how gunpowder works....'
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Hey, has anyone tried out Valour? I have a couple of questions but the thread is archived so
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Don't dragons in D&D all have different body plans anyway? Like white dragons have different crests and wings and stuff than red dragons, and also they prefer way different homes and lairs? Like you would basically have to ignore a lot of D&D canon and stop your players from doing research to get them with this gotcha?
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theironjef posted:Don't dragons in D&D all have different body plans anyway? Like white dragons have different crests and wings and stuff than red dragons, and also they prefer way different homes and lairs? Like you would basically have to ignore a lot of D&D canon and stop your players from doing research to get them with this gotcha? If my GM said "a white dragon appears before you" I don't think asking what sort of crest it has would even occur to me. You could argue that my character would know, but they also might not - it's not hard to imagine lots of people in the average D&D universe not knowing what distinct characteristics a dragon has outside of academic circles or specific specialists. Of course that doesn't stop it from being a dick move if the intent is to deceive the players and then kill them in combat or something.
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Sep 24, 2018 23:39
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Kai Tave posted:This has to be something that a GM sprung on one of his players. There is the tale of the wight dragon...
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the bronze dragon turns out to be a white dragon with a real bad fake tan
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Moriatti posted:Hey, has anyone tried out Valour? I have a couple of questions but the thread is archived so I've read through it but not actually played it, if you want to ask anyway.
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Well, GM's control all the information, so they can omit details for players that don't browbeat them if they're jerks. I'm reminded of old adventure game nonsense: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy posted:>READ THE SIGN
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How dare you besmirch the good name of the hitchhikers guide text adventure by quoting the fake example dialogue in the manual !! (lol)
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Lemon-Lime posted:I've read through it but not actually played it, if you want to ask anyway. For the skill that makes you big it mentions a -1 to defenses, I'm assuming that's to rolls to defend and not to the defense stat (if it is, does that also lower the resistance stat.)
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I'm fairly confident that's -1 to defense rolls (since defending against an attack is rolled). This is also why you get +2 to the number required to crit you (since normally it's 10 more than your defense roll, so it's counterbalancing that).
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Since Ettin changed the thread title, what's a good list of  scary games for Halloween besides Dread and Ten Candles? I know I saw some game that was similar to Dread but used a deck of playing cards instead, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called.
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Moriatti posted:For the skill that makes you big it mentions a -1 to defenses, I'm assuming that's to rolls to defend and not to the defense stat (if it is, does that also lower the resistance stat.) My copy of the book says "-1 to all defence rolls" specifically.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Since Ettin changed the thread title, what's a good list of Mysterium.
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Lemon-Lime posted:My copy of the book says "-1 to all defence rolls" specifically. Zarick posted:I'm fairly confident that's -1 to defense rolls (since defending against an attack is rolled). This is also why you get +2 to the number required to crit you (since normally it's 10 more than your defense roll, so it's counterbalancing that). Awesome, that's what I thought but I wanted to be sure. Is the game dead? It looks like it is which is a shame because it seems like my poo poo.... Are there any glaringly good/bad builds I should be worried about? Countblanc posted:Mysterium. Seconded.
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Coolness Averted posted:The whole 'actually it's an albino <different dragon type>' is the dumbest loving grog thing and I know there had to be plenty of smug assholes who did it. I think that was one of the "Let's Colonize the Aztecs!" books for additional 
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Nuns with Guns posted:Since Ettin changed the thread title, what's a good list of Last year for Spooktober my group played Dread and The Final Girl. Final Girl uses a deck of cards to create a slasher flick. Everyone creates a handful of victims and you rotate control of the killer. This year we're playing The Skeletons, Dread and maybe something else. I'm psyched for The Skeletons, telling a story from the monaters POV. My group also loves drawing maps so it's a great fit.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:How dare you besmirch the good name of the hitchhikers guide text adventure by quoting the fake example dialogue in the manual !! Didn't know the manual was so honest about how dickish the game was gonna be.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Since Ettin changed the thread title, what's a good list of Slasher Flick
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theironjef posted:Don't dragons in D&D all have different body plans anyway? Like white dragons have different crests and wings and stuff than red dragons, and also they prefer way different homes and lairs? Like you would basically have to ignore a lot of D&D canon and stop your players from doing research to get them with this gotcha? They've always had different temperaments and preferred terrain/lair types and so on. 3e onwards gave them different head shapes in a halfhearted attempt to differentiate between them visually, though the differences were so trivial that I can't imagine 99% players even remembering what those differences actually are beyond knowing that they exist.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Their Blades in the Dark is dope as gently caress and I will fight anyone who even tries to criticize it. Like for once in my life I'm not posting spoilers because one of the reveals is just so loving good! I listened to this based on this recommendation and I can confirm that the reveal is very good
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gtrmp posted:They've always had different temperaments and preferred terrain/lair types and so on. 3e onwards gave them different head shapes in a halfhearted attempt to differentiate between them visually, though the differences were so trivial that I can't imagine 99% players even remembering what those differences actually are beyond knowing that they exist. Characters though. Player knowledge is basically irrelevant if you're talking 3e or later. " What sort of dragon are we hunting? I'ma roll a D20 and there's some skill for that because I'm a seasoned got-drat adventurer. Bear Lore me, regarding white dragons."
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I think there could be a game where collecting knowledge about the weird, mostly unknown wildlife can pay off or is necessary, and blending together local folklore from your guide, rhymes your Ranger learned from his mentor, or the Wizard's access to the latest article in The Journal of Dragon Taxonomy can help you realize that the red dragon without a horned crest is actually a species that mimics the more dangerous Red Dragon to intimidate rival predators. But I don't think it's something D&D really fits well, since it's basically just "Roll d20 and see if I'm bullshitting you."
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dwarf74 posted:IIRC there's a Forgotten Realms book where the big reveal is that an albino elf was really a drow, and it managed to be smug, groggy, and racist in one fell swoop. I misread that and pictured the albino drow being smug, groggy and racist. (incidentally, Drow being albino makes way more sense than them being black-skinned)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I misread that and pictured the albino drow being smug, groggy and racist. That's how they did the Shadow Elves in Mystara rather than using the Drow
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For a similar reason I've got plans for the PCs to encounter albino cave fish Mer in underground rivers. They're actually quite nice, if shy.
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drrockso20 posted:That's how they did the Shadow Elves in Mystara rather than using the Drow Wasnt that also the setting wherw they worshipped a magic a-bomb as a nod to planet of the apes?
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Coolness Averted posted:Wasnt that also the setting wherw they worshipped a magic a-bomb as a nod to planet of the apes? I think so, been a while since I read their supplement though
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theironjef posted:Characters though. Player knowledge is basically irrelevant if you're talking 3e or later. " What sort of dragon are we hunting? I'ma roll a D20 and there's some skill for that because I'm a seasoned got-drat adventurer. Bear Lore me, regarding white dragons." Yeah, 3e and later this would be a good place to use Knowledge skills with different information based on how high they got. A low roll gives "It's a dragon and it's white, you're pretty sure it's a white dragon", a slightly higher roll gives "It looks white, but it doesn't look quite like what you remember white dragons looking like and the area is outside a white dragon's normal range. You're pretty sure it's not actually a white dragon, but you don't know what color it should be" and a still higher roll gives "It looks white, but you recognize that based on its crest and overall body shape it's actually a red dragon that's colored white. You're not sure if it's natural or magical coloring."
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senrath posted:"You're not sure if it's natural or magical coloring." Since dragons are intelligent, I've got visions of them painting themselves different colours or engaging in elaborate cosplay to mislead their rivals.
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potatocubed posted:Since dragons are intelligent, I've got visions of them painting themselves different colours or engaging in elaborate cosplay to mislead their rivals.
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:I listened to this based on this recommendation and I can confirm that the reveal is very good Can I jump in at Marielda, or do I need to listen to the first season played in DW first?
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Moriatti posted:Is the game dead? Pretty sure the author is still working on an expansion book, which was a KS stretch goal.
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gtrmp posted:They've always had different temperaments and preferred terrain/lair types and so on. 3e onwards gave them different head shapes in a halfhearted attempt to differentiate between them visually, though the differences were so trivial that I can't imagine 99% players even remembering what those differences actually are beyond knowing that they exist. 2e Dragons have different shapes too.
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Coolness Averted posted:Wasnt that also the setting wherw they worshipped a magic a-bomb as a nod to planet of the apes? Spaceship reactor core iirc. And they got radiation magic.
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Angrymog posted:Spaceship reactor core iirc. And they got radiation magic. That reminds me of one of the lower levels of Barrier Peaks. "Remember there is no 'Protection from X' spell for radiation."
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Stigmata would make a lot more sense if it was an alien takeover rather than ultra generic fascists.
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Subjunctive posted:Can I jump in at Marielda, or do I need to listen to the first season played in DW first? I did. The references to older seasons are few and can be mostly put together from context.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I misread that and pictured the albino drow being smug, groggy and racist. And ... sorta on the albino bit. I mean yeah, cave-dwellers in the real world lose their pigmentation over time, but that's because they're in dark caves, among other blind creatures, where that's not a problem. So for drow, it would depend on what else sharing the underdark with them was sighted. If you assume "occasional light sources like luminescent fungi, tons of shadows, other beings who can see with real eyes" then jet-black skin would be good for camouflage whereas a pale albino elf would stick out. 
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Splicer posted:A dragon who starts every morning with a bunch of kobolds painting dazzle camouflage on it.
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