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SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

Plan Z posted:

Yeah, but the pacing is pretty bad in episodes anyway. Actors talk slower and are having trouble with their voices (see earlier Marge clip) and there's more pauses between lines. There's also a ton of "oops I forgot to tell a joke" where any sort of writing is broken up with lots of monkeycheese (I catch an episode every once in a while, and tons of Homer's lines are random humor nonsense). A Goon linked this in another thread and Carl's Gecko line a little example of the bad punch-up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87lDaaTgX5Q

I just want to know if someone wanted to do that Gecko line and ended up writing an entire episode around it.

This clip is from 2005, so it's still post-good Simpsons, but when comparing it to recent episodes like the previously linked THOH clips, there still seems to be so much more life behind it. It almost could pass for a late 90's episode.

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Simpson’s were pre-meme and as a result became proto-memetic. This means now that new Simpsons memes can’t really hang with classic ones because classic ones have the syndication zeitgeist and the only people who watch new Simpsons aren’t the same people who think memes are dank

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Bust Rodd posted:

Simpson’s were pre-meme and as a result became proto-memetic. This means now that new Simpsons memes can’t really hang with classic ones because classic ones have the syndication zeitgeist and the only people who watch new Simpsons aren’t the same people who think memes are dank

Steamed hams is the meme we should be sending on a golden record to space

Butt Detective
Mar 24, 2013

Only the dead can know peace from these hats.
Every now and then I just let new Simpsons episodes play on the TV as background noise, and one thing I've noticed is Disco Stu seems to pop up a lot. Not sure why.

I once caught part of a new Treehouse of Horror episode where Homer and Marge are on a boat and Homer starts killing everyone, only I didn't know it was a Treehouse of Horror episode, so I was just ready to accept that in new Simpsons, Homer kills people. It's not too far-fetched when there's an episode where everyone's eyes fall out and it's not a Treehouse of Horror episode.

Horace posted:

I just watched a season 28 episode in which a dog explodes, a doctor puts a gun to his head, a tied up woman is driven over by a car covering the windscreen in blood, either Sherri or Terri is pictured drowned in a tank of water, and then Ralph is thrown on the tyre fire.

Also this

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Simpson’s is now just a playpen for Harvard Lampoon grads to come get their start writing trash for Hollywood.

The latest writer was kicked out of Harvard without a degree for at least two rape allegations

Kill the show

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Disco Stu is such an archaic character to bring in. Did they add a Grungie Dan yet or do the 90’snot exist in modern Simpsons?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Butt Detective posted:

Every now and then I just let new Simpsons episodes play on the TV as background noise, and one thing I've noticed is Disco Stu seems to pop up a lot. Not sure why.

I once caught part of a new Treehouse of Horror episode where Homer and Marge are on a boat and Homer starts killing everyone, only I didn't know it was a Treehouse of Horror episode, so I was just ready to accept that in new Simpsons, Homer kills people. It's not too far-fetched when there's an episode where everyone's eyes fall out and it's not a Treehouse of Horror episode.

It's a Treehouse of Horror. It's a send-up of some movie from a million years ago that no one has seen.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Bust Rodd posted:

Disco Stu is such an archaic character to bring in. Did they add a Grungie Dan yet or do the 90’snot exist in modern Simpsons?

I remember Disco Stu as a great one off punchline about the poo poo you find at garage sales. Then I noticed at some point they were shoehorning him in everywhere.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
The best Disco Stu joke is always going to be “Your fish are dead.”
“I know... I can’t get them outta there.”

but special mention goes to the flashback episode where we see Disco Stu in 1979 talking about the rise of Disco and how if trends continue...

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Bust Rodd posted:

The best Disco Stu joke is always going to be “Your fish are dead.”
“I know... I can’t get them outta there.”

but special mention goes to the flashback episode where we see Disco Stu in 1979 talking about the rise of Disco and how if trends continue...

idk if :thejoke: but that's the same scene

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

bitterandtwisted posted:

idk if :thejoke: but that's the same scene

Nah they recently did a flashback episode that spent a lot of time on Disco Stu in his heyday.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

bitterandtwisted posted:

idk if :thejoke: but that's the same scene

Holy gently caress you’re right, wow, whoever wrote that episode ‘got’ Disco Stu...

Also the second joke I wrote is actually the set up for the first one.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Disco Stu doesn't advertise

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Bust Rodd posted:

The best Disco Stu joke is always going to be “Your fish are dead.”
“I know... I can’t get them outta there.”

but special mention goes to the flashback episode where we see Disco Stu in 1979 talking about the rise of Disco and how if trends continue...

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Bust Rodd posted:

Disco Stu is such an archaic character to bring in. Did they add a Grungie Dan yet or do the 90’snot exist in modern Simpsons?

The way they keep retreading every little one-off gag I wouldn’t be surprised if Cynical Member of Generation X has had his own episode by now

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Data Graham posted:

The way they keep retreading every little one-off gag I wouldn’t be surprised if Cynical Member of Generation X has had his own episode by now

They kinda did in that Homer was the cynical member of Generation X and played in a grunge band when he met Marge.

That's the official way they met until like, 3 years from now when they remake it for the early 2000s.

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

Bust Rodd posted:

Disco Stu is such an archaic character to bring in. Did they add a Grungie Dan yet or do the 90’snot exist in modern Simpsons?

Data Graham posted:

The way they keep retreading every little one-off gag I wouldn’t be surprised if Cynical Member of Generation X has had his own episode by now

i feel as though you are perhaps unfamiliar with s19e11's "that 90's show" in which it was revealed that homer started the grunge movement with his band "sadgasm" as part of his outlet for his jealousy and anger over marge's burgeoning feelings for a feminist college professor. guest starring rolling stone's kurt loder and weird al.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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So basically we're doing Legend of Zelda continuity now

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

Data Graham posted:

So basically we're doing Legend of Zelda continuity now

no, the simpsons are patterns of being that are caught up in cyclic hell of karmic debt rather than fixed temporal entities, this has been extensively covered.

Rascar Capac
Aug 31, 2016

Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.

PostNouveau posted:

They kinda did in that Homer was the cynical member of Generation X and played in a grunge band when he met Marge.

That's the official way they met until like, 3 years from now when they remake it for the early 2000s.

Homer and Marge meet in 2001, escaping from Tower 1 (which is where they put all the jerks).

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Wiggum was the nypd cheif, and he ordered wtc building 7 to be brought down. He thought that meant lowered on an elevator to avoid a hit, not an implosion. He was kicked off the force, and that's how he ended up in springfield

lol but
Feb 24, 2007

body is a dinosaur
Slippery Tilde
dental dam

margie fucks faces

Berious
Nov 13, 2005
simpsons bad

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

fatal oopsie-daisy posted:

This is what new Simpsons is like, I think it's a Halloween episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlQ6jAFYKhU

listen to Marge's voice

and good lord, not even a single attempt at a joke

It will forever be :psyduck: to me to ponder being a guy in a comedy writer's room who pitches "gags" like "and then Maggies books go up in flames and a cowboy doll shoots himself in the head."

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Bust Rodd posted:

Holy gently caress you’re right, wow, whoever wrote that episode ‘got’ Disco Stu...

Also the second joke I wrote is actually the set up for the first one.
It also wasn't a flashback. He's in the present day (well, season 8 present day, so 1997), talking about disco record sales in the year ending 1976.

Which I suppose is in some sense comparable to us in 2018 discussing the quality of episodes made in 1997.

Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Sep 26, 2018

NiceGuy
Dec 13, 2006

This is my BOOMSTICK
College Slice

Strudel Man posted:

Which I suppose is in some sense comparable to us in 2018 discussing the quality of episodes made in 1997.

Well if those trends continue... oh god no :stonk:

Paul Revere 3000
Dec 8, 2007

So like a pimp I'm pimpin'
I got a boat to eat shrimp in
Nothing wrong with my leg
I'm just B-boy limpin'


Rascar Capac posted:

Homer and Marge meet in 2001, escaping from Tower 1 (which is where they put all the jerks).

Guest starring Steve Rannazzisi and Pete Davidson.

emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007

I found the new low. It's this Al Jean interview: https://ew.com/tv/2018/09/28/simpsons-showrunner-season-30-preview/

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Some ok ideas I guess but the Ru Paul one is gonna suuuuuick

emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007

quote:

Playing herself, Gal Gadot auditions as Lisa, and in the film, “she’s eating hamburgers and saying she can’t sing and it makes the real Lisa very aggravated.”
I'm pretty sure he meant "play the saxophone"

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Here's the really bad ideas to save everyone the click

- In another episode, Homer “cheats” on Marge by binging a Stranger Things-type show without her, which angers her and strains their relationship.

- (Treehouse of Horror) Invasion of the Body Snatchers is lampooned in “Intrusion of the Pod-Y Snatchers,” as “everybody is just mesmerized by their phones, and they’re getting destroyed by the aliens,” says Jean.

- (This will be a loving travesty) “Daddicus Fitch” will be an unusual one for the long-running animated series, as it features live-action footage from a classic film. In the episode, Lisa watches To Kill a Mockingbird, and afterward, “she sees Homer doing something really nice and starts to visualize her dad as Gregory Peck,” says Jean. “The girl who played Scout [Mary Badham] is still alive, and we actually got clearance from the estate of Gregory Peck to use to use footage of the two of them. So there’s actual footage of that film in this show, which is really cool — and then see Homer relate to Lisa on that basis.”

- “This is true – most successful Tupperware sellers are drag queens,” says Jean. “So Marge starts selling Tupperware, and her friend Julio convinces her to pose as a drag queen to make more money. They think she’s a guy playing a woman, which Marge kind of looks like a little.

Also Matt Groening's apparently feels like he's the victim in the Problem with Apu

quote:

Simpsons creator Matt Groening subsequently said, “I love the character, and it makes me feel bad that it makes other people feel bad. But on the other hand, it’s tainted now — the conversation, there’s no nuance to the conversation now.”

Oh god, the nuance to the conversation is gone. The horror ... the horror

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

PostNouveau posted:

- “This is true – most successful Tupperware sellers are drag queens,” says Jean.

like, what? :psyduck:

is this a common theme in the crossdressing/drag/transgender porn that he watches or something?

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time
I'm very excited that Marge's well-established friend Julio is a part of that episode

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

So I'm not watching that. What are the decent ideas that got mentioned earlier?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Drink-Mix Man posted:

So I'm not watching that. What are the decent ideas that got mentioned earlier?

The ideas that looked OK to me are

- The Simpson parents compete an Amazing Race-esque show (Rhys Darby voices the host!) and are immediately eliminated “for a reason I won’t reveal because it’s pertinent to the plot,” says Jean. Stuck in a motel, “they can’t talk to anybody about the show for six months,” he says.

- “There’s a real-life thing called a mitigation video where if you commit a crime, you make a video that you show to the court,” says Jean. “If it’s well-made, you can convince the judge to reduce your sentence. So Mr. Burns made a mitigation video and he had Guillermo direct it.

- One segment of “Treehouse of Horror XIXX” will riff on Jurassic Park — it’s called “Geriatric Park” — as Mr. Burns opens a special retirement home that can reverse the aging process in senior citizens using dinosaur DNA. ... And another segment, “Multiplisaty,” drills down on Lisa while sending up The Three Faces of Eve.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Huh.

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe
There is no lowest point to this endless pit.

pooch516
Mar 10, 2010

quote:

“We got [Netflix Chief Content Officer] Ted Sarandos to play himself,” says Jean. 

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Oh wow what a great get.

Rich nerds aren't paying to be on the Simpsons, they're just so famous and relatable!

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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

PostNouveau posted:

- (This will be a loving travesty) “Daddicus Fitch” will be an unusual one for the long-running animated series, as it features live-action footage from a classic film. In the episode, Lisa watches To Kill a Mockingbird, and afterward, “she sees Homer doing something really nice and starts to visualize her dad as Gregory Peck,” says Jean. “The girl who played Scout [Mary Badham] is still alive, and we actually got clearance from the estate of Gregory Peck to use to use footage of the two of them. So there’s actual footage of that film in this show, which is really cool — and then see Homer relate to Lisa on that basis.”


:wtc:

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