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Class action lawsuit against Telltale: https://www.polygon.com/2018/9/25/17901106/telltale-layoffs-lawsuit-warn-act Apparently California law says a 100+ company has to give two months notice before major layoffs Hopefully they get taken to the cleaners. If they had money to outsource games they had money to pay severances. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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Oh no, it turns out treating labor as disposable and keeping all the management onboard so they can keep cashing Steam checks is a totally scumfucker thing to do.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:26
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Steve Yun posted:Class action lawsuit against Telltale: What is this going to even accomplish? If people are looking for money, how do they expect to get anything from a company that has nothing sitting in its bank account right now?
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Sep 25, 2018 19:26
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Taintrunner posted:Oh no, it turns out treating labor as disposable and keeping all the management onboard so they can keep cashing Steam checks is a totally scumfucker thing to do. 
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Sep 25, 2018 19:27
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I said come in! posted:What is this going to even accomplish? If people are looking for money, how do they expect to get anything from a company that has nothing sitting in its bank account right now? Presumably the court can order those steam checks being cashed by the skeleton crew executives to go towards paying severances
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Sep 25, 2018 19:27
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I said come in! posted:What is this going to even accomplish? If people are looking for money, how do they expect to get anything from a company that has nothing sitting in its bank account right now? the company that has no money but can also afford to loving pay people to finish a game for them who just aren't the people they were previously paying to finish the loving game
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Sep 25, 2018 19:28
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cheetah7071 posted:Presumably the court can order those steam checks being cashed by the skeleton crew executives to go towards paying severances Also whatever Netflix is giving them to finish the Minecraft project.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:30
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Steve Yun posted:Class action lawsuit against Telltale: Good. I hope they get their owed severance pay at the very least. Scummy as gently caress to do this, and not have the funds to pay everyone what their owed.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:35
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I said come in! posted:What is this going to even accomplish? If people are looking for money, how do they expect to get anything from a company that has nothing sitting in its bank account right now? Steve Yun posted:If they had money to outsource games they had money to pay severances.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:35
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Unfortunately I think the most likely outcome of the Telltale lawsuit will be the company fully shutting down once they determine they would lose more money dealing with the lawsuit than they would staying open. I think that law only applies because they're still open but I don't think you legally owe your employees poo poo if the company completely shuts down.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:39
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Is it wrong that I want them to be hit really hard? When the news broke out I just thought it was as expected since TellTale released dud after dud, but reading about the completely brutal management and how it affected the people who worked at the time and the ones who were laid off, I just want to see their brand scorched.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:39
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I don't mind seeing the management burned alive, they sounded awful. This is America though, they will likely walk away from this even wealthier. 
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Sep 25, 2018 19:41
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axelblaze posted:Unfortunately I think the most likely outcome of the Telltale lawsuit will be the company fully shutting down once they determine they would lose more money dealing with the lawsuit than they would staying open. I think that law only applies because they're still open but I don't think you legally owe your employees poo poo if the company completely shuts down. I hope this spurs game industry members to unionize
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Sep 25, 2018 19:41
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axelblaze posted:Unfortunately I think the most likely outcome of the Telltale lawsuit will be the company fully shutting down once they determine they would lose more money dealing with the lawsuit than they would staying open. I think that law only applies because they're still open but I don't think you legally owe your employees poo poo if the company completely shuts down.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:53
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In Training posted:I hope this spurs game industry members to unionize 
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Sep 25, 2018 19:54
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The industry’s “you should just be elated to be here” culture might have to go first
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Sep 25, 2018 20:03
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Jay Rust posted:The industry’s “you should just be elated to be here” culture might have to go first They saw an opportunity to exploit all of those manchildren that wanted to become the next Hideo Kojima, and ran with it.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:05
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I said come in! posted:They saw an opportunity to exploit all of those manchildren that wanted to become the next Hideo Kojima, and ran with it. Exploiting or demanding passion despite poor conditions is fairly universal, and it's kinda weird to call devs "manchildren" for it.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:13
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new anti-union strategy: call unionizing game workers immature manchildren who are not capable of working the required manly 80 hours a week
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Sep 25, 2018 20:17
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I said come in! posted:What is this going to even accomplish? If people are looking for money, how do they expect to get anything from a company that has nothing sitting in its bank account right now? End them and force them to liquidate to pay out or end their contract and eat a full closure, becoming personally toxic to investors indefinitely. Game companies are companies, not special places where everything runs on dreams and the good will of employees.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:30
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I'm glad when I got the "big one" bundle last week I set the charity slider all the way to 100%. Normally I do a $1 company, $1 HB tip, rest charity but fuuuuuuuck telltale.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:33
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al-azad posted:I'm glad when I got the "big one" bundle last week I set the charity slider all the way to 100%. Normally I do a $1 company, $1 HB tip, rest charity but fuuuuuuuck telltale. i give 100% devs except that time fez was in a bundle
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Sep 25, 2018 20:34
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bloodychill posted:End them and force them to liquidate to pay out or end their contract and eat a full closure, becoming personally toxic to investors indefinitely. Game companies are companies, not special places where everything runs on dreams and the good will of employees. and failing that, guillotine
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Sep 25, 2018 20:35
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Incidentally California doesn’t play games with labor law. I was once fired from a position and wasn’t paid my last wages within 24 hours, as required by law. I made a labor board complaint after giving them two weeks to fix it and them giving me the run-around. Inside a month, they were fined $5k, and I received my pay and most of the fine. The case with Telltale is equally open and shut and they were depending entirely on the good will of their ex-employees not to take them to the cleaners over this.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:37
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I said come in! posted:I don't mind seeing the management burned alive, they sounded awful. This is America though, they will likely walk away from this even wealthier. I know capitalism makes it really easy to be pessimistic about this kinda thing but it really seems like an open-and-shut case here. They were kicked out of the office with absolutely nothing 30 minutes after being told they were fired and had to pick up their stuff the next day, it's absurd even for this industry.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:44
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Poniard posted:new anti-union strategy: call unionizing game workers immature manchildren who are not capable of working the required manly 80 hours a week Number of hours you work in a week and how little sleep is already some toxic masculinity poo poo at minimum.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:48
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Sep 25, 2018 20:56
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Steve Yun posted:Class action lawsuit against Telltale: winning the suit might be easy, actually getting the money will be the hard part
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Sep 25, 2018 21:03
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This fad is amazingly funny 
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Sep 25, 2018 21:09
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They're already going to be paying money to their debtors, this is just a way to make them pay their former employees as part of that rather than absolutely nothing.
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Sep 25, 2018 21:10
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WAHOO
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Sep 25, 2018 21:11
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axelblaze posted:Unfortunately I think the most likely outcome of the Telltale lawsuit will be the company fully shutting down once they determine they would lose more money dealing with the lawsuit than they would staying open. I think that law only applies because they're still open but I don't think you legally owe your employees poo poo if the company completely shuts down. skimming the statute, it looks like theres a big ole exception saying it doesnt apply to people assigned to working on projects if the projects get cancelled
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Sep 25, 2018 21:12
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This makes me so sad
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Sep 25, 2018 21:13
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exploded mummy posted:skimming the statute, it looks like theres a big ole exception saying it doesnt apply to people assigned to working on projects if the projects get cancelled so they might still be able to screw their contractors but they'll need to pay out to their salarymans the way they should
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Sep 25, 2018 21:13
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Samuringa posted:Is it wrong that I want them to be hit really hard? When the news broke out I just thought it was as expected since TellTale released dud after dud, but reading about the completely brutal management and how it affected the people who worked at the time and the ones who were laid off, I just want to see their brand scorched. That's not wrong at all. Telltale deserves to be raked over the loving coals for what they've pulled. The only thing I want more than watching the executives go down in flames is for the former employees to get the severance they're owed.
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Sep 25, 2018 21:27
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The White Dragon posted:i give 100% devs except that time fez was in a bundle Back when it was humble indie bundle I did an even split but I ain't giving ign and big publishers more money.
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Sep 25, 2018 22:20
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That’s some serious bullshit that Telltale’s execs pulled. The worst part is that this is considered perfectly okay and normal in the game industry. More reason to keep the guillotine sharp.
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Sep 25, 2018 22:26
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exquisite tea posted:haha guys wouldn't it be so random if kirby was actually a sexy dragon princess, never thought of that before or drew sexy dragons just thinkin' out loud here. haha. well anyway, cya later.
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Sep 25, 2018 22:37
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how do you eat an power
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Cowcaster posted:how do you eat an power step 1: be kirby
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