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Larrymer posted:Meant it more from like a "universal basic income" perspective. But yeah maybe it would still be like that. I'd much more prefer the former, but since I'm not rich, I'll likely have nothing to say about what happens.
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Darchangel posted:I'd much more prefer the former, but since I'm not rich, I'll likely have nothing to say about what happens. I'm just going to wait and see how it turns out. Hopefully we won't end up as Soylent Green but at this point no one can guarantee that. Even if there was universal basic income, I would still want to work honestly. I get restless and crazy if I don't have something to do during the day like I'll dig ditches if I have to idc it's not like I can get a whole lot poorer than I am already.
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64bit_Dophins posted:Even if there was universal basic income, I would still want to work honestly. I get restless and crazy if I don't have something to do during the day like I'll dig ditches if I have to idc it's not like I can get a whole lot poorer than I am already. I think most people would. Normal mentally healthy people need to be directing their energy somewhere for self-actualization. The strawman of "lazy people sitting around all day" points to a deep pandemic of undiagnosed depression.
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64bit_Dophins posted:interior of that care the care car
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64bit_Dophins posted:Huh I test drove a Toyota 86 a few months ago and it had them but of course on the test drive they put me in the most ripped out model they had that still had a manual transmission. Yeah the FR-S and BRZ didn't have the automatic headlights option until they scrapped the Scion brand and brought the Toyota 86 badging over. It's such a happy little Japanese sports car.  Larrymer posted:Meant it more from like a "universal basic income" perspective. But yeah maybe it would still be like that. There are a few small-scale UBI tests a few municipalities in Canada have done and to my knowledge they've all been successful, which does give me some hope. The hard part is, well, removing the obstructionists.
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UBI will come into it's own because taxes are a thing. If your tax base doesn't have any money suddenly you don't have any money. Let alone products and services not being bought. It's amazing that conservative types can't see 5 feet or 10 minutes ahead. 100 people with 1 dollar is always better than one person with 100 dollars, even for the richest people.
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KakerMix posted:It's amazing that conservative types can't see 5 feet or 10 minutes ahead. 100 people with 1 dollar is always better than one person with 100 dollars, even for the richest people. You're not looking at it from their perspective - they don't care if 100 people with a dollar is better for business than 1 person with 100 dollars; they just want to be that one person with the hundred dollars.
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Geoj posted:You're not looking at it from their perspective - they don't care if 100 people with a dollar is better for business than 1 person with 100 dollars; they just want to be that one person with the hundred dollars. Right, that's why the 5 feet ahead thing comes in. They would be better off being the person with 100 dollars if everyone else had 50 instead of 1. But I suppose it isn't about quality of life, rather it's about something else. Otherwise billionaires wouldn't be losing their poo poo on twitter of all things.
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Kazinsal posted:Yeah the FR-S and BRZ didn't have the automatic headlights option until they scrapped the Scion brand and brought the Toyota 86 badging over. I want one so bad. I just went on the test drive because I heard that they're pretty much letting anyone finance a car these days and I wanted to test that. I'm pretty poor but my credit score is actually pretty great so they offered the $28k brand new 86 for $0 down and Zero % APR for the first two years. Obviously I didn't buy it because I can't afford a new car (I'd be stoked to own anything with under 150kmi on the clock) but yeah it's freaking sweet and I wish I could afford one. What's the used market of the old FRSs looking like these days? Previa_fun posted:I think most people would. Normal mentally healthy people need to be directing their energy somewhere for self-actualization. The strawman of "lazy people sitting around all day" points to a deep pandemic of undiagnosed depression. I think the issue is more complicated that than but yeah it's also not as simple as "poor people are lazy". I'm sure there are different people out there but personally I need to do something even if it's painting parking garages (my first job out of college).
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KakerMix posted:Right, that's why the 5 feet ahead thing comes in. They would be better off being the person with 100 dollars if everyone else had 50 instead of 1. So basically what you're saying is that Elon Musk is an alien-vampire-reptile and we're all being secretly sold into neo-slavery so we can run on a treadmill all day powering the "pleasure orbs" of the rich in exchange for credits we can only use at the company store to keep ourselves alive by purchasing porn and nutrition/vitamin-plasma.
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64bit_Dophins posted:So basically what you're saying is that Elon Musk is an alien-vampire-reptile and we're all being secretly sold into neo-slavery so we can run on a treadmill all day powering the "pleasure orbs" of the rich in exchange for credits we can only use at the company store to keep ourselves alive by purchasing porn and nutrition/vitamin-plasma. that wasn't one of the better black mirror episodes
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64bit_Dophins posted:So basically what you're saying is that Elon Musk is an alien-vampire-reptile and we're all being secretly sold into neo-slavery so we can run on a treadmill all day powering the "pleasure orbs" of the rich in exchange for credits we can only use at the company store to keep ourselves alive by purchasing porn and nutrition/vitamin-plasma. Where do I sign up
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fridge corn posted:that wasn't one of the better black mirror episodes It was depressing because like a lot of other Black Mirror episodes it picks at the insecurities people have about the future. angryrobots posted:Where do I sign up In hell.
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KakerMix posted:Right, that's why the 5 feet ahead thing comes in. They would be better off being the person with 100 dollars if everyone else had 50 instead of 1. Economic anxiety makes people say a lot of racist stuff, I've noticed edit: Also Ambien
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Rhyno posted:So long as men like Mitch McConnell hold power we will never see any manner of UBI. You had me at "smacking Mitch McConnell in the face with a shovel." 
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64bit_Dophins posted:I want one so bad. I just went on the test drive because I heard that they're pretty much letting anyone finance a car these days and I wanted to test that. I'm pretty poor but my credit score is actually pretty great so they offered the $28k brand new 86 for $0 down and Zero % APR for the first two years. Obviously I didn't buy it because I can't afford a new car (I'd be stoked to own anything with under 150kmi on the clock) but yeah it's freaking sweet and I wish I could afford one. What's the used market of the old FRSs looking like these days? I bought a 2014 last year that was a lease return with 52,000 km (32,000 mi) on it and no major damage (dealer replaced a cracked front bumper a few months into the lease, but that's it) for $20,000 CAD, plus a bit on top of that for an extended warranty, just in case any catastrophic technical bulletins or whatnot show up in the next couple years. If you go by owner you're going to find a bit more of a price spread because people will try to unload an FR-S for brand new 86 money on the grounds of "well I sunk $10k in upgrades into it so you're getting your money's worth". Chances are that "$10k in upgrades" is going to be stupid looking body kits and not a Jackson Racing supercharger kit or whatnot.
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Kazinsal posted:I bought a 2014 last year that was a lease return with 52,000 km (32,000 mi) on it and no major damage (dealer replaced a cracked front bumper a few months into the lease, but that's it) for $20,000 CAD, plus a bit on top of that for an extended warranty, just in case any catastrophic technical bulletins or whatnot show up in the next couple years. If you go by owner you're going to find a bit more of a price spread because people will try to unload an FR-S for brand new 86 money on the grounds of "well I sunk $10k in upgrades into it so you're getting your money's worth". Yeah I see a lot of FRSs rolling around my city that are absolutely destroyed with camber'd tires, drift stitches, and the like. I would never buy a modified car like that because I just assume that the previous owner ruined it. I'm gonna give it a few more years and see if I can find one on the cheap.
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64bit_Dophins posted:I want one so bad. I just went on the test drive because I heard that they're pretty much letting anyone finance a car these days and I wanted to test that. I'm pretty poor but my credit score is actually pretty great so they offered the $28k brand new 86 for $0 down and Zero % APR for the first two years. Obviously I didn't buy it because I can't afford a new car (I'd be stoked to own anything with under 150kmi on the clock) but yeah it's freaking sweet and I wish I could afford one. What's the used market of the old FRSs looking like these days? FRS/BRZ is a saved search of mine on cars.com and 2013-2014 with around 50,000 miles can be had for $15,000 easy, multiple examples with clean carfaxes. My concern is how can you tell if they were taken care of or just ragged on and put away wet for those 50,000 miles. Or lol body kit https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/738875729/overview?aff=share_other Modus Man fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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Modus Man posted:FRS/BRZ is a saved search of mine on cars.com and 2013-2014 with around 50,000 miles can be had for $15,000 easy, multiple examples with clean carfaxes. My concern is how can you tell if they were taken care of or just ragged on and put away wet for those 50,000 miles. Jesus Christ the interior
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KakerMix posted:Jesus Christ the interior Who are these people and why do they think these body kits/interiors are cool? I honestly don't understand it. Either they're like 16 and have rich parents or they're adults who have Axe bodyspray taste.
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Adiabatic posted:Hot take: working rules It does, but I can't wait to retire so I can go back to baking for a living without having to live on what they pay a baker.
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Larrymer posted:Come at me, dementia at 60.
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Ether Frenzy posted:Sentence 1: Technological changes to the workplace are a-coming It's not even that. It's that the solution of 'learn this skillset' doesn't scale to the sheer number of jobs automation will take over. We, as a society, don't actually have a use for 20%+ of the population programming professionally.
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Pro tip: if you own a manual car, DONT hyperextend your left knee. I’ve got parts for the landcruiser in at the dealership but I’d have to float gears in the hilux to go get them and I’m not sure the box would appreciate it.
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KakerMix posted:Jesus Christ the interior i think that's stock! only part i'm not sure about is the painted dash stuff but i'd only be about 50% shocked if it was aftermarket.
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Liquid Communism posted:It's not even that. It's that the solution of 'learn this skillset' doesn't scale to the sheer number of jobs automation will take over. We, as a society, don't actually have a use for 20%+ of the population programming professionally. Ding ding ding. I'm not knocking skilled labor or programmers or whatever but throwing money at schools to teach coding isn't going to fix jack poo poo but make NPR listeners feel good.
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Going to be weird when coding is all automated but plumbers aren't.
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Modus Man posted:I just want to retire early and do whatever the gently caress I feel like doing on any given day. This is why I'm a teacher. Summers off and I can do whatever I want. Of course I'm a teacher so that amounts to "not a lot because lol teacher salary," but you know. I'll probably never retire for, well, the same reason.
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KakerMix posted:Going to be weird when coding is all automated but plumbers aren't. The building trades are going to be the last bastion of holdouts, honestly. It'd take really good general purpose AI to be able to make sense of the non-euclidean poo poo fountains that some DIYers have hacked on top of 100 year old plumbing stacks.
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KakerMix posted:Going to be weird when coding is all automated but plumbers aren't. Agreed. As it is there's days I wish I hadn't gone full white collar. Watched an Instagram bro in a modded out Genesis coupe spend a solid minute at an uphill stoplight, constantly rocking back and forth using his clutch to hold the car still.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Agreed. As it is there's days I wish I hadn't gone full white collar. I owe my old MSP (rip) a retroactive apology for doing this when I was new to driving, ugh.
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64bit_Dophins posted:Don't most late model Lexusi have automatic headlights? Pretty sure nearly every Lexus beyond the first gen ES (which was literally just a tarted up Camry) has auto headlights, but they have an "auto" and "off" position on the switch. They commonly get turned off when being worked on or run through a car wash. And yeah, the Altima absolutely went to poo poo after the 2nd gen. The 1st and 2nd gen were mechanically decent (aside from the timing chain guides). The 3rd gen and newer aren't built nearly as well. And yes, Nissan is a lot like Mitsubishi when it comes to credit, they tend to attract the low score buyers. Kazinsal posted:The odd one with proper automatic headlights for me was a 1990 Chevrolet Beretta GT. My G5 and Accord didn't have it and my FR-S doesn't. It boggles my mind that my 80s-tastic GM "mmmmmmnngeeehhhh it's better than a cavalier but less than a camaro" box of weirdness had them but my My old Saturn Ion had them too. I never even knew you could option a Saturn of any kind with automatic lights, but apparently they were standard on the level 3 trim. It also had an auto dimming mirror w/compass and outside temp display... stuff I always thought was reserved for far nicer cars. I transferred the mirror over to its replacement (an Ion level 2). Wiring was already there for the outside temp sensor, just had to splice it in (plug had been left uncapped, so it was unusable). Compass and auto dimming are internal to the mirror, and all the wiring is already in the plug going to the mirror. I'm not sure what it would take to have swapped the auto headlights - I know they're controlled by the BCM, but I'm fairly sure it would require some reprogramming, not just swapping the switch and light sensor over (unlike Ford). The existing headlight switch has the "forced off" momentary position that the other car had, it's just left blank (and doesn't do anything). I may grab a switch from a level 3 and plug it in sometime for the hell of it; the forced off position also disables the daytime running lights. If that does turn them off, then I might tear into the dash and try to find out if I can plug in a light sensor. That is kinda odd for a 1990 though. Someone ticked one hell of an expensive checkbox ordering the Beretta. IOwnCalculus posted:Watched an Instagram bro in a modded out Genesis coupe spend a solid minute at an uphill stoplight, constantly rocking back and forth using his clutch to hold the car still. When did Super Aggro Crag move to AZ?
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QuarkMartial posted:This is why I'm a teacher. Summers off and I can do whatever I want. My wife is a kindergarten teacher and makes more than I do, if that tells you anything about our financial situation. But both of our vehicles are paid off and cheap to maintain and we save the max per year for retirement, we aren't rich now and we won't be rich when we retire but we will have "enough" *edit- Automotive confession time: Both of our vehicles have chevy V8's with horrible exhaust manifold leaks that I keep putting off fixing because lazy Modus Man fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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I'm suddenly getting the widespread IT industry hate of printers. My last wireless printer (an old Samsung laser printer) only had issues if a storm rolled through and the power flickered juuuust right. The printer I had at my last place was a dumper-found USB Canon scanner/printer that generally just worked (when the nozzles didn't get clogged). GF said she had not 1, but 2 modern printers, so I left it with a friend. Turns out one printer was completely dead. Other is a Windows 7 era Epson inkjet (so drivers are available). That sat in (garage) storage for nearly 2 years. With the ink cartridges installed. Epsons have internal print heads, instead of them being part of the ink cartridge, so you can guess how this goes (it's great if you use it often, ink is so much cheaper... horrible if it sits for a long time). It's a combo scanner/printer as well, but I can't get it to scan in anything except B&W with the Win10 drivers. Which is fine, 99% of my scanning is receipts for work. Not only is the black print head almost completely clogged, but anytime I turn it off (and GF turns off anything and everything that isn't in active use if she sees it on - I thought my OCD was bad), I have to reinstall the drivers on my PC every time it gets power cycled. (shows "offline" otherwise, despite a static IP) I need to grab another Samsung laser printer. It could get finicky about paper, but it generally just worked over the 9 years I used it. It was starting to have issues with the pickup rollers when I left Dallas, but it was a $60 printer in 2011 that saw whole-house printing (and also plenty of university dorm printing when I discovered just how many people in my building didn't have printers... I charged 5c/page vs the 10c/page the library charged). It was up to at least 50k pages (nothing for a beast like a Laserjet, but substantial for a consumer grade laser that never saw any maintenance outside of 3rd party toner).
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STR posted:I'm suddenly getting the widespread IT industry hate of printers. I tell my students, without joking, that printers are dangerous and unreliable. They are also cheap, so pick up one or two extra lasers during holiday time for $40 each and keep them in a closet, just in case.
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