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Zdarsky's last issue of Spider-Man is...well, all the usual Spider-Man adjectives.
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Sep 26, 2018 17:27
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howe_sam posted:Zdarsky's last issue of Spider-Man is...well, all the usual Spider-Man adjectives. Thwip?
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Sep 26, 2018 17:30
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howe_sam posted:Zdarsky's last issue of Spider-Man is...well, all the usual Spider-Man adjectives. Friendly?
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Sep 26, 2018 18:01
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Sep 26, 2018 18:13
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Sep 26, 2018 18:19
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X-O posted:Expected income just means she wasn't paid for work she didn't do. This literally happens all the time when ongoing books are cancelled. She was paid for the issues completed and not for the issues that weren't. That's how it works when any book is cancelled. I mean if she did two issues and then they stiffed her on the work she'd done then ok you have every to complain and I'll side with you. When you're on a project is cancelled before the work is completed and you are paid for the part you already did you shouldn't get paid for the work you didn't do just because you had planned on doing it. This is work for hire stuff. Expected income is an important part of how you figure your budget, if you're doing work for hire stuff. I dunno. I don't think it's outlandish to be frustrated with this situation as only the latest trouble in her relationship with Marvel.
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Sep 26, 2018 18:31
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howe_sam posted:Zdarsky's last issue of Spider-Man is...well, all the usual Spider-Man adjectives. Avuncular!
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Sep 26, 2018 18:34
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Sep 26, 2018 20:56
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If I ever wrote a Spider-Man comic, it would be called "PICTURES! of SPIDER-MAN!"
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Sep 26, 2018 21:18
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Sep 26, 2018 21:38
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I got to put a GG Allin reference in a Marvel comic today, that was pretty fun:
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Understand there is not one bit of hyperbole at all in this when I say it: I think Peter Parker #310 is one of the best single issues of a comic I’ve ever read in my life. The first time I’ve legit teared up reading a comic in I don’t know how long. There aren’t enough adjectives to describe how o felt reading that issue. Zdarsky you are one hell of writer.
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Sep 27, 2018 01:14
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I got to put a GG Allin reference in a Marvel comic today, that was pretty fun: I want you to know that the punk suit is my go-to in the Spider-Man video game  Converse sneakers should always be a part of the costume. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Sep 27, 2018 |
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Sep 27, 2018 01:24
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X-O posted:Understand there is not one bit of hyperbole at all in this when I say it: I think Peter Parker #310 is one of the best single issues of a comic I’ve ever read in my life. The first time I’ve legit teared up reading a comic in I don’t know how long. There aren’t enough adjectives to describe how o felt reading that issue. Zdarsky you are one hell of writer. yeah that one story definitely got me in the feels
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Cael posted:Thanks for articulating what I was going to post. I’m glad she spoke up about it, and she knows exactly what she’s doing and how some people might perceive it and is comfortable with her own decision. But I think it’s an important message to send, especially to people thinking about getting into the business. I would rather have this than ANY of the empty suit interviews that someone towing the party line will give to any of the interchangeable comic news sites. Sorry if I get a little passionate about it, being friends with Scott Benson kind of gets me fired up with labor relations in the video game industry
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Sep 27, 2018 02:21
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achillesforever6 posted:It reminds of what is going with the Video Game industry in the wake of Telltale going bankrupt. All this poo poo needs to be unionized and the workers shouldn't be treated like cogs who put up with a lot of poo poo going in because its there dream to be a comic book writer or video game developer. This isn't anything like the Telltale situation. The Telltale situation is a company mismanaging itself into loving oblivion in an environment that grinds through workers like nothing else. To the point where they eventually went under and screwed all their employees, there was a tonne of things that lead to that situation, not the least of which tremendous financial mismanagement. This is utterly incomparable to a situation in which a work-for-hire creative team was paid for their work that the company decided not to publish.
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Someone on my Twitter asked this question and I'm curious. Has there ever been a not unpopular hero that died and Marvel just decided "This death is actually permanent, they're not coming back"? I would think Mar-Vell counts, even though he's been brought back multiple times, it's always been temporary.
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yeah working in comics means doing crunch hours all the time and not just at the tail end of a project, for below livable wages, with no benefits, have to put in their own time and money to promote books even when working at the big 2, have no labor protections, and the expectation that if you get treated like poo poo that you can never speak up or you'll never work again ex telltale employees talking about wheres my (rightly expected) severance package, lol you think a creator who had their book axed is gonna get a severance if anything game devs probably have it better
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Sep 27, 2018 02:51
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I got to put a GG Allin reference in a Marvel comic today, that was pretty fun: How much longer until Spider-Punk is Marvel's flagship character?
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Waffleman_ posted:Someone on my Twitter asked this question and I'm curious. Has there ever been a not unpopular hero that died and Marvel just decided "This death is actually permanent, they're not coming back"? I would think Mar-Vell counts, even though he's been brought back multiple times, it's always been temporary. I would say he counts, any time I can think of it was obvious it wasn’t permanent. And if he counts than Banshee, Destiny, Thunderbird and a bunch of other X-folks that only came back for Necrosha and Chaos War.
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Sep 27, 2018 02:58
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Banshee is 'alive' currently.
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Sep 27, 2018 03:00
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Onmi posted:This isn't anything like the Telltale situation. The Telltale situation is a company mismanaging itself into loving oblivion in an environment that grinds through workers like nothing else. To the point where they eventually went under and screwed all their employees, there was a tonne of things that lead to that situation, not the least of which tremendous financial mismanagement. They are different situations but are both industries that desperately need to unionize, though comics creators would likely have to do it via a guild system like Hollywood professions.
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It's almost hard to remember at this point that Norman Osborn was straight up dead for 23 real world years
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Blockhouse posted:It's almost hard to remember at this point that Norman Osborn was straight up dead for 23 real world years Harry was dead for like 18 or so right?
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Sep 27, 2018 04:13
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Jean Grey was actually dead for 14 real world years!
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Blockhouse posted:It's almost hard to remember at this point that Norman Osborn was straight up dead for 23 real world years I will always find it weird that for years I thought Norman was Spider-Man's biggest foe, yet he was still dead in the main continuity.
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yeah Hobgoblin and Doctor Octopus were basically been the #1 Spider-Man archnemesis during that whole gap
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X-O posted:Understand there is not one bit of hyperbole at all in this when I say it: I think Peter Parker #310 is one of the best single issues of a comic I’ve ever read in my life. The first time I’ve legit teared up reading a comic in I don’t know how long. There aren’t enough adjectives to describe how o felt reading that issue. Zdarsky you are one hell of writer. This is one of the best comics I have read in a LONG time. It's perfect and I hope he gets another chance to write the character.
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Blockhouse posted:yeah Hobgoblin and Doctor Octopus were basically been the #1 Spider-Man archnemesis during that whole gap I wonder if you could do a long-running mystery of the Hobgoblin type story noawadays. I'm not even bemoaning if you can't, just wondered if it could make it out unscathed in the era of Johnston lurking outside walls with his ear to the glass.
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Dawgstar posted:I wonder if you could do a long-running mystery of the Hobgoblin type story noawadays. I'm not even bemoaning if you can't, just wondered if it could make it out unscathed in the era of Johnston lurking outside walls with his ear to the glass. Sure, within about five years of Hobgoblin's unmasking (as Ned Leeds, contrary to Stern's own plans), DC ended up having to fudge the big reveal they'd planned for Armageddon 2001 because too many people on the nascent Internet worked out that the Monarch was going to be Captain Atom, didn't they?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sure, within about five years of Hobgoblin's unmasking (as Ned Leeds, contrary to Stern's own plans), DC ended up having to fudge the big reveal they'd planned for Armageddon 2001 because too many people on the nascent Internet worked out that the Monarch was going to be Captain Atom, didn't they? They didn't 'end up having to', they chose to. This is a big difference.
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Not as long as the Hobgoblin, but it took 8 months to reveal who the female Thor was.
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Blockhouse posted:yeah Hobgoblin and Doctor Octopus were basically been the #1 Spider-Man archnemesis during that whole gap Green Goblin looms large in hindsight because of the death of Gwen but in the stories before that it seemed that Ock was treated with more reverence and fear. Norman was important to Peter as a villain because of the secret identity issues and because of Harry but I always got the sense that Ock was the more dangerous foe. Norman had the big girlfriend killing moment but then of course also immediately died afterwards. It wasn't until Hobgoblin where I'd say it was the first time Ock stopped being #1. And then in the years after that you have Harry as Goblin, Venom, and Norman's return.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sure, within about five years of Hobgoblin's unmasking (as Ned Leeds, contrary to Stern's own plans), DC ended up having to fudge the big reveal they'd planned for Armageddon 2001 because too many people on the nascent Internet worked out that the Monarch was going to be Captain Atom, didn't they? It was spoiled in Advance Comics. "And how will the heroic forces react when Monarch is at long last unmasked and revealed to be one of their own - CAPTAIN ATOM!"
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Lobok posted:It wasn't until Hobgoblin where I'd say it was the first time Ock stopped being #1. And then in the years after that you have Harry as Goblin, Venom, and Norman's return. Yeah, around that time there'd been a story where Ock injured Black Cat in a fight and Spider-Man flipped out and beat the poo poo out of him, so for a while after that Ock was sort of compromised as Spider-Man's arch-villain because he was now terrified of him.
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Skwirl posted:Not as long as the Hobgoblin, but it took 8 months to reveal who the female Thor was. Well it didn't help that there was a pretty early fake out where Thor asks Jane if it's her and she flat denies it.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Yeah, around that time there'd been a story where Ock injured Black Cat in a fight and Spider-Man flipped out and beat the poo poo out of him, so for a while after that Ock was sort of compromised as Spider-Man's arch-villain because he was now terrified of him. Ock got his own back (well, Spidey let him think so anyway) and was cured of his 'arachnophobia' right before Venom made his first appearance, right?
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Dawgstar posted:I wonder if you could do a long-running mystery of the Hobgoblin type story noawadays. I'm not even bemoaning if you can't, just wondered if it could make it out unscathed in the era of Johnston lurking outside walls with his ear to the glass. It's a number of years old now but the mystery of who Red Hulk was dragged on for a long time. Or at least it felt like a long time.
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