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JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


angel opportunity posted:

I mentioned wanting to try The Incal several posts up. I read it a few weeks ago and mostly hated it. The art is good, but I feel Moebius is actually kind of overrated (I feel people are going to get mad at me for this.) His skill is there and great, but I don't really care for his sense of aesthetics if that makes sense. The plot, writing, dialogue, pacing–everything other than the art was absolutely awful. The Metabarons feels more like a fluke now than anything. I'm very put off from trying anything from Jodorowski again.

Before the Incal is leagues better than The Incal. The art isn't quite as good, but it has a much more interesting story and actual character development to make up for that.

Final Incal isn't half bad either.

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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

A year or two ago I got the first issue of the Incal for Free Comic Book Day and loved it. I finally read the full Incal not too long ago and it definitely did not live up, to either the FCBD preview or what I was expecting from when it got discussed on Jodorowsky's Dune.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




angel opportunity posted:

I mentioned wanting to try The Incal several posts up. I read it a few weeks ago and mostly hated it. The art is good, but I feel Moebius is actually kind of overrated (I feel people are going to get mad at me for this.) His skill is there and great, but I don't really care for his sense of aesthetics if that makes sense. The plot, writing, dialogue, pacing–everything other than the art was absolutely awful. The Metabarons feels more like a fluke now than anything. I'm very put off from trying anything from Jodorowski again.

The Borgias is really good.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Michel Fiffe (Copra) GI Joe miniseries next year
https://nerdist.com/gi-joe-comic-michel-fiffe-idw-exclusive/

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
So loving in.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

The Wicked and the Divine 1373AD is out, and it all but confirms a theory I've had for a while.

Minerva incarnates as a child because she becomes a vessel for Ananke if Ananke dies. Then she spends the next 90 years getting old again.

Also the story gives away a hell of a lot about the metaplot, so don't read it if you haven't read at least as far as Imperial Phase.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.
Anyone else pick up Chelsea Cain's Man-Eaters? It's an interesting concept and pretty amusing if you're into her kind of humour.

Press posted:

Eisner-nominated and New York Times bestselling thriller writer CHELSEA CAIN returns to comics with a new ONGOING SERIES! A mutation in Toxoplasmosis causes menstruating women to turn into ferocious killer wildcats—easily provoked and extremely dangerous. As panic spreads and paranoia takes root, the fate of the world rides on the shoulders of one twelve-year-old girl. Part Cat People, part The Handmaid’s Tale, MAN-EATERS will have everyone talking. From the creative team behind the Eisner-nominated series Mockingbird: writer CHELSEA CAIN, artist KATE NIEMCZYK, colorist RACHELLE ROSENBERG, letterer JOE CARAMAGNA, and joined by LIA MITERNIQUE, KATIE LANE, and STELLA GREENVOSS. This September… the cat wants in.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Jedit posted:

The Wicked and the Divine 1373AD is out, and it all but confirms a theory I've had for a while.

Minerva incarnates as a child because she becomes a vessel for Ananke if Ananke dies. Then she spends the next 90 years getting old again.

Also the story gives away a hell of a lot about the metaplot, so don't read it if you haven't read at least as far as Imperial Phase.

Also gratuitous titty

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast

Chinston Wurchill posted:

Anyone else pick up Chelsea Cain's Man-Eaters? It's an interesting concept and pretty amusing if you're into her kind of humour.

I did. I liked the tone and got the glitter cover because why not?

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
i havent read man eaters yet myself but i came across some a couple threads about it from trans people my fellow queer peeps might be interested in reading

https://twitter.com/ckayfabe/status/1045045547252543492

https://twitter.com/ElSandifer/status/1045119204884705282

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I liked it okay, though it was just world building. It didn't really give any space to plot, so I have no idea how it'll be from this point on.
I think in that linked interview, she's pretty much telling you not to expect much non-binary consideration in the allegory, "this is a specific story, about a specific experience" (ie: her own, her daughter's), but who knows.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Sep 27, 2018

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Yeah, it was the first issue, so it was mostly world building. Although they did show the relationship between the father and the daughter characters. It was pretty good, had a Sex Criminals meets Bitch Planet vibe to it. (Not that difficult considering that they had a Bitch Planet poster in the background of one of the panels).

Also, I feel that of course people who are transgender aren't going to like it. The book is lovely to 51% of the population, that's the point of the book, it's a dystopia. They put drugs in the water supply to gently caress with the natural processes of the female body. A government like that (that calls itself "The Ministry of Defense" or something) sure wouldn't give a poo poo about trans people. And it's obvious that the book is going to try to upset that status quo, given the author.

IUG fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Sep 27, 2018

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
I saw page one, aware only of the "Toxoplasmosis causes women to hulk out" part of the story, and promptly figured that it was not a comic for me.

ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Sep 27, 2018

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

IUG posted:

Also, I feel that of course people who are transexual aren't going to like it. The book is lovely to 51% of the population, that's the point of the book, it's a dystopia. They put drugs in the water supply to gently caress with the natural processes of the female body. A government like that (that calls itself "The Ministry of Defense" or something) sure wouldn't give a poo poo about trans people. And it's obvious that the book is going to try to upset that status quo, given the author.

Transgender

Look no offense but tbh if you cant even get the terminology right and youre not understanding the critique its not meant for you and thats kinda why i said it was for my fellow queer posters in the first place

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


site posted:

Transgender

Look no offense but tbh if you cant even get the terminology right and youre not understanding the critique its not meant for you and thats kinda why i said it was for my fellow queer posters in the first place

Yeah sorry, I'm not good with the terminology. Edited it out.

space pope
Apr 5, 2003

I love this comic. The artistic style is very striking and the subject matter is very interesting - the Weimar Republic.

http://www.nocomprendopress.com/product/kommer-2-desember-lars-fiske-george-grosz-berlin-new-york

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Teenage Fansub posted:

I liked it okay, though it was just world building. It didn't really give any space to plot, so I have no idea how it'll be from this point on.
I think in that linked interview, she's pretty much telling you not to expect much non-binary consideration in the allegory, "this is a specific story, about a specific experience" (ie: her own, her daughter's), but who knows.

I feel like if in the process of writing an allegory about a specific experience you wind up creating a scenario which is wildly offensive to a different experience the onus is on the author though. League of Extraordinary Gentleman, especially Century, is wildly allegorical, as is Promathea, and almost everything about sex in both is either allegorical in an old-school esoteric sense or just dumb lad humor-- that doesn't give it a pass. It's somehow even worse to me that Cain acknowledges considering NB and trans valences of this setting and just deciding it doesn't matter.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:

Archyduke posted:

It's somehow even worse to me that Cain acknowledges considering NB and trans valences of this setting and just deciding it doesn't matter.

Yeah, especially given that, even though she says that it's a specific theme and experience, she describes that theme and experience as 'womanhood' really consistently. Which definitely seems shittier given she even briefly acknowledges that the experience she's describing is more (binary) sex than gender anyway... It's just like, she took a conceit that seems like a trans narrative and turned it into a trans-exclusionary one. Not a great look, and kind of colors the 'Ask Me About My Feminist Agenda' shirts.

Maybe the treatment will end up being better? But definitely concerned going in...

e: Thanks for the links site!

foutre fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Sep 29, 2018

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Uber Invasion this week. *hyperventilates*

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
Edit: I appear to be behind the most recent available issue!

Neurosis fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Oct 1, 2018

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
The Jesus stuff was pretty on the nose but it I find that it works pretty well.

Also happy to see that Leah finally has that leg back. And that the Americans are smart enough to not deploy Siegmund against his former nation. Tokyo is pretty messed up already at this point due to fire bombings, but I'm thinking his objective is probably to take the Emperor hostage.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Synthbuttrange posted:

Uber Invasion this week. *hyperventilates*

I’m so loving ready to be really hyped or really mad.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I’m so loving ready to be really hyped or really mad.

Or both, as has happened before

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

You also forgot 'really sad'

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Holy poo poo! They're reviving Thunderbolt! And Keiron Gillen is writing it.

https://www.newsarama.com/42086-gillen-winjgaard-revamp-peter-cannon-thunderbolt.html

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Fight Club 3, 12 issue series announced for 2019. Palahniuk and Cameron Stewart again.
https://comicbook.com/comics/2018/10/02/fight-club-3-chuck-palahniuk-comic-series/

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I’m so loving ready to be really hyped or really mad.

HYPE HYPE HYPE god drat I love atheist anarchist god Maria

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
Sam Humphries's Blackbird has a relatively weak first issue that is being completely carried by some good to great art from Jen Bartel.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Not surprising considering all the advertising for it was "look, a book drawn by Jen Bartel" and nothing about the story

Hell i still don't know what its about, but when i was looking at today's listing i saw it and said oh that book by Jen Bartel is out today lol

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Is Uber worth getting into? I mean Kieron Gillen sure but I always thought it was just gore porn for the most part.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Uber is great, would highly recommend

You need to start with volume 1, titled simply "Uber" cuz uber invasion is a direct continuation from that

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

site posted:

Hell i still don't know what its about, but when i was looking at today's listing i saw it and said oh that book by Jen Bartel is out today lol

A young girl in Los Angeles survives an earthquake due to the intervention of a magical creature, which then causes everyone in the area but her to forget about its existence.

Ten years later, her life is a wreck due to both recent trauma and her obsession with magic.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?

Unlucky7 posted:

Is Uber worth getting into? I mean Kieron Gillen sure but I always thought it was just gore porn for the most part.

there's a lot of that, but he's clearly put a lot of thought into the story and there is something it's trying to say about humanity or whatever

put it another way: invincible was often gore porn with a meandering, asinine story and huge moral misjudgments in the writing. Uber is gore porn with a story that doesn't have those problems

emdash fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Oct 3, 2018

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Its gore porn with a story. :v:

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
okay just finished uber, i was grinning from ear to ear the whole time. so awesome, i love it

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
I think Uber has been plagued from the beginning by art that is considerably trashier than the scripts, and it makes enough moves that feel in dubious taste that I'm honestly not sure whether, in the long run, I'll consider it good or bad, but it's addictive and as with most Gillen projects definitely a sharply written project that makes risky but smart moves with its premise.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Synthbuttrange posted:

Its gore porn with a story. :v:

I was about to jump in and make a joke about how this could describe Invincible and then I found out that this is actually describing Invincible.

wielder
Feb 16, 2008

"You had best not do that, Avatar!"
Invincible was as much of an extended soap opera as most superhero comics except with less inhibitions about gore and so on, thus the story can get ridiculously convoluted and lose some steam at certain points, but the characters were usually fairly strong for most of the run. It also ended pretty well, which is a bonus.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Invincible was a story that could not escape its creators fetishes is probably the most accurate way to put it.

Gore was not a thing that happened a lot, but when it did happen he went all in to a weird degree.

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BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Über was gore-porn mostly early on IMO, especially when Canaan White were drawing stuff...

Currently I don't think it's really that bad. It's violent, yes, but mostly to the point. And the goriest part in this latest issue had a very clear visual point, IMO.

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