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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Bowsette as a trans icon is powerful and good, actually representing transitioning as a magic switch you can flip and have gigantic cans and a sexy body so straight people can honk off to you is bad, though
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cheetah7071 posted:How many mainline mario games have more than just the barest possible story? Like, odyssey and sunshine specifically? galaxy has like, scraps of a story but what's there is pretty cool. otherwise i think for a long time people felt pretty beholden to executive stuff and none of the people calling the shots really cared about how you can do fun storytelling in mario. versus like, the lead guy in the first three paper marios pretty much driving the projects with the idea of what weird, crazy poo poo they could do next
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Cowcaster posted:representing transitioning as a magic switch you can flip and have gigantic cans and a sexy body so straight people can honk off to you is bad, though i mean. i've seen a non-zero number of trans people who unironically like bowsette and the idea of the super crown in general as like, fun wish fulfillment, so i don't think it's that black and white obviously that doesn't make bowsette the Universal Progressive Trans Icon but it's definitely a thing that some people find a bit of personal warmth in
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Cowcaster posted:representing transitioning as a magic switch you can flip and have gigantic cans and a sexy body so straight people can honk off to you is bad, though yeah I can see someone with gender dysphoria being upset about the bowsette-transgender take I’m still somewhat miffed by Celeste and it’s hamfisted depression thing, personally, though some fellow sufferers appreciated it
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Cowcaster posted:representing transitioning as a magic switch you can flip and have gigantic cans and a sexy body so straight people can honk off to you is bad, though but like. this is more like when japan had that trend of drawing pokemon as anime tiddy ladies you can derive different interpretations of it, but the people conceiving of it are just drawing wank material
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The Colonel posted:i mean. i've seen a non-zero number of trans people who unironically like bowsette as like, fun wish fulfillment, so i don't think it's that black and white i’ve seen trans friends who like it and trans friends who don’t like it, for the reasons charlie said and for the reasons i said
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I'd say it was good nintendo was getting a tans icon finally but then I remembered sylveon was trans
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maybe the true ending of celeste should just be for the game to start over again a few days later.
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In conclusion mental health is a land of contrasts,
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remember when something awful had a -tan designed for it e: i'm guessing the -tan craze ended when Nep arrived as officially sanctioned tannery
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No Wave posted:maybe the true ending of celeste should just be for the game to start over again a few days later. Exactly ugh makes me angry to even think about
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The 7th Guest posted:remember when something awful had a -tan designed for it What the gently caress
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i remember that one dude sa had a feud with drawing her getting punched in the stomach... weird times. Possibly in the gold mine but the links are probably all dead.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:What the gently caress it was like people didn't learn from zyborne clock and gbs was all coming up with very bad ideas
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This was way before zybourne clock... Zybourne clock was like the true end of unironic collective gbs effort.
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Was it before The Demon Rush Edit: Wow, Demon Rush was actually way after Zybourne? Memory swiss-cheesing...
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rosalina wasn't really a character in galaxy. she said some things and pointed you at the new zones, that's about it. she became part of the nintendo pantheon because she was another tall thin blond chick and she hasn't appeared in a real way since galaxy 1. even in galaxy 2 she shows up in an ending sequence for a moment and that's that. beyond that she's just been another person to show up in tennis, kart, party, etc she's been given less characterization than even daisy, who at least has been given the official characterization that she's kind of a rough and tumble tomboy by nintendo, even if that's been shown exactly 0 times in a real game.
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luckily a front page article captured this moment in time  https://www.somethingawful.com/news/you-arrrrreeee-champions/
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Coolguye posted:rosalina wasn't really a character in galaxy. she said some things and pointed you at the new zones, that's about it. she became part of the nintendo pantheon because she was another tall thin blond chick and she hasn't appeared in a real way since galaxy 1. even in galaxy 2 she shows up in an ending sequence for a moment and that's that. beyond that she's just been another person to show up in tennis, kart, party, etc i mean her backstory stuff in the storybook room was kinda cool but then miyamoto hated that stuff so rip
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The 7th Guest posted:luckily a front page article captured this moment in time I hate this
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The 7th Guest posted:luckily a front page article captured this moment in time thanks I hate it
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Coolguye posted:rosalina wasn't really a character in galaxy. she said some things and pointed you at the new zones, that's about it. she became part of the nintendo pantheon because she was another tall thin blond chick and she hasn't appeared in a real way since galaxy 1. even in galaxy 2 she shows up in an ending sequence for a moment and that's that. beyond that she's just been another person to show up in tennis, kart, party, etc
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The Colonel posted:galaxy has like, scraps of a story but what's there is pretty cool. otherwise i think for a long time people felt pretty beholden to executive stuff and none of the people calling the shots really cared about how you can do fun storytelling in mario. versus like, the lead guy in the first three paper marios pretty much driving the projects with the idea of what weird, crazy poo poo they could do next Paper Mario was also made by Intelligent Systems rather than the core Mario team so I don't think it's too surprising they're pretty different
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i don't wanna say miyamoto rules over every mario project with an iron fist but a lot of dev teams definitely seem to have this issue where the moment miyamoto suggests anything about their game they all have to immediately say "gently caress we need to change this entirely RIGHT NOW" because he's miyamoto and you don't wanna be the guy to not do what miyamoto suggests you should do so i wouldn't be surprised if miyamoto having maybe like, even just a mildly negative reaction to rosalina's story book stuff just caused all dev teams to not even try to touch rosalina for the next decade as a result
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what i'm saying is let's have a peach and daisy superstar saga instead of a mario and luigi superstar saga next time ok it should mostly involve alternating between daisy telling peach to man up and climb that hill and peach telling daisy to calm the gently caress down about (insert thing here)
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No Wave posted:bowser's awesome but bowser's role in seven stars or thousand year door should have been the bowser we got for the past two decades, not super mario 64 bowser over and over. Paper Peach is great because she treats being kidnapped like a vacation and messes with the villains.
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Coolguye posted:what i'm saying is let's have a peach and daisy superstar saga instead of a mario and luigi superstar saga next time ok the big bad steals mario's voice and then gets more than they bargained for when they realize how nice charles martinet is
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The Colonel posted:i mean her backstory stuff in the storybook room was kinda cool I hated it too
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Valkyria Chronicles 4 is proving to be a lot of fun and I have appreciated the variety of missions I have so far had to deal with.
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The 7th Guest posted:luckily a front page article captured this moment in time you can tell she represents sa because her back is all messed up
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Cowcaster posted:i’ve seen trans friends who like it and trans friends who don’t like it, for the reasons charlie said and for the reasons i said It's complicated because there are so many different motivations between each of the different fanart pieces. Some feel like they are drawn with the motivation of representing alternative bodytypes and genders positively, some just like any excuse for horny pictures, some like the idea of offending polite society. Among people who enjoy Bowsette for being transgressive, I imagine you can even divide them up between A) people who enjoy the idea of offending the status quo with something they think needs representation, and B) people who like the idea of offending people with something they think is gross Your trans friends who like it and don't like it might both have good reasons depending on what they've seen so far
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I think it might also be split on the butch "more-like-Bowser" / femme "more-like-Peach" representations
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The things everyone can agree on are shark teeth and fangs and fierce eyebrows.
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fierce eyebrows > titties imho
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In Training posted:I hated it too Why
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