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enraged_camel posted:Let them, feed them and they poo poo coal. Pretty simple. And if there are over 9 hatches, pick the oldest and kill it - yummy BBQ.
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Hatch happiness only matters for eggs. Crowding just slows down how fast they reproduce. The amount of coal they poo poo is based only on the volume of food they eat.
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Sep 25, 2018 23:50
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Hatch happiness only matters for eggs. Crowding just slows down how fast they reproduce. The amount of coal they poo poo is based only on the volume of food they eat. Yes but if you leave them unhappy then eventually they all die of old age without laying eggs and then you no longer have a hatch farm. Been there done that.
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I believe sage hatches can eat certain kinds of non organic matter. Mainly dirt or fertilizer, I think. Sages also produce either 75% or 100% of their consumed mass into coal, so they are far more efficient at producing coal than regular hatches. Until you run out of material for your farms and start to starve. Not that it happened to me, nope.
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Phone posting but I think sages can eat slime going from memory, or polluted dirt maybe? They did something more useful than consuming dupe food, I know I keep a few around for something like that.
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Eh, slime is a useful resource. It's used as mushroom fertilizer, and can be converted into algae with polluted water as the waste. I wouldn't feed it to hatches.
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bird food bathtub posted:Phone posting but I think sages can eat slime going from memory, or polluted dirt maybe? They did something more useful than consuming dupe food, I know I keep a few around for something like that. They can eat basically anything organic so you can use them as a dumpster for spoiled food. Yes they can also eat polluted dirt so they can also be where the poo poo goes when you're running outhouses. enraged_camel posted:Yes but if you leave them unhappy then eventually they all die of old age without laying eggs and then you no longer have a hatch farm. It doesn't take much management to prevent that from happening. Really it just takes making sure you have a variety of ages. That way when a few die of old age the crowding effect goes away and the rest puke out some eggs.
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enraged_camel posted:Yes but if you leave them unhappy then eventually they all die of old age without laying eggs and then you no longer have a hatch farm. Like all my solutions: Murder some 
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Ratzap posted:And if there are over 9 hatches, pick the oldest and kill it - yummy BBQ. Is there a way to manually kill a hatch?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Is there a way to manually kill a hatch?
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So, considering i basically filled my base with natgas before i asked about capping that geyser, I'm thinking of taking the same map and restarting my base. Currently, my bases typically consist of a bunch of 4x16 rooms that i cram everything into, but I'm always looking for variety, so can you goons gimme some ideas for non-standard room layouts? Most of my googling results in videos and articles and threads about the most efficient ways to do things, I'm mostly just looking for interesting room designs that fit within the constraints of the variously functioning rooms that we have to work with.
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dig a pit, run algae deoxydizers for a bit, and the natural gas will sink. it's not a lost cause.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Is there a way to manually kill a hatch? There's the click on it and use the attack button as Splicer said but some use automatic killing pits. These are a bunch of horitontal airlocks with a water basin underneath and the meat hatches on the airlocks. When they're ripe, the locks open, hatches drown and dupes/autoloader grab the meat. Or this one which uses the locks to push fluid up over them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITzPvTvuaqs
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Disappointed that you can't use boiling oil to deep fry them
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insta posted:dig a pit, run algae deoxydizers for a bit, and the natural gas will sink. it's not a lost cause. Eh... It's more that I'm using it as a flimsy excuse to start again and refine a ton of mistakes and design flaws I realized I made before. The current base was dug out way too quickly, with a bunch of useless space set up for "whenever there comes a need for it", and was all the same room sizes, squashed into a small footprint with the hope of fitting it awkwardly into the starting biome. After playing a few starts on different maps, I realize what I really want is a better set of layouts and setups for various rooms that I'll need in a base that look a bit more aesthetically pleasing than a bunch of squashed hallways. The map seed that Ratzap posted back on page 49 is really good so far, and I wanna stick with it and explore it. I just need a better base design that actually works to do so.
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i've figured out my problem with Dwarf Fort and Oxygen Not Included, which is that i really like this genre of games and i especially love the noodly early game of placing the resources just so, but i'm loving garbage at the midgame of engineering giant terraforming projects and designing machinery to automate massive food and farming plantations how do i get better at this sort of thing?
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One death-spiralled colony failure of tears, angry vomiting and starvation at a time. I tend to try to pick one thing, and work on that until it reaches a point of relative sustainability then force myself to move on to the next when it's done and if it wasn't actually sustainable learn a lesson or I chose the wrong thing change up my order next time. Usually something like "just started, better get to work on oxygen as that is the most immediate threat. Ok done, now what about a food stop-gap. Cool, good enough. Probably need some toilets now." Do it enough times and I develop templates for each problem that I stick with. "Building toilets" usually comes down to deploying the same blue print for a long time until at some point I progress enough to want to do the entire lavatory in a different, more efficient way since that colony didn't blow up yet. I rebuild it for the newer design and when everything becomes a death spiral later on, I have lavatory v2.0 in my head from the start.
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Jinnigan posted:i've figured out my problem with Dwarf Fort and Oxygen Not Included, which is that i really like this genre of games and i especially love the noodly early game of placing the resources just so, but i'm loving garbage at the midgame of engineering giant terraforming projects and designing machinery to automate massive food and farming plantations Do you have thousands of hours of free time and lots of Adderall at your disposal? If not, do what I do and look at what other people have designed and built. The game's official forums is a good place for that. After you gain some experience with them, you can start tweaking them to your liking.
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My current colony has a ton of water available, so I have two SPOMs going. I've been expanding slowly by using exosuits to mine an area, walling it in, then pumping oxygen in until it's at max pressure. Then I'll break the walls and expand my base into it. I'm fairly efficiently tapping the extra hydrogen from it for power. My coal reserves are climbing as I'm excavating the caustic biome, since I'm not using all that much power. My bristle farm is producing 63 happy berries per iteration. I'm about to get my pinchas up and running, heating them with my vast hot water reserves. Wonder what's going to happen to ruin the whole thing 
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Jinnigan posted:i've figured out my problem with Dwarf Fort and Oxygen Not Included, which is that i really like this genre of games and i especially love the noodly early game of placing the resources just so, but i'm loving garbage at the midgame of engineering giant terraforming projects and designing machinery to automate massive food and farming plantations Minimize what you are trying to do and get good at that and then work on the harder stuff. Take stress and germs out of the game and get your colony running comfortably at cycle 50. Then go back, add germs and stress and get your colony to cycle 50. Then to 75 then to 100 and on.
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ok, i got to cycle 60 and have a SPOM up and running. running low on water. any suggestions? plenty of polluted water laying around. also found an oil... geyser?
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Jinnigan posted:ok, i got to cycle 60 and have a SPOM up and running. running low on water. any suggestions? plenty of polluted water laying around. also found an oil... geyser? Polluted Water into a Water Sieve, then cool water. Easiest way (apart from just using the Sandbox) is to put ice filled storage compactors into your water supply. Thanks enraged-camel for the suggestion.
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Jinnigan posted:ok, i got to cycle 60 and have a SPOM up and running. running low on water. any suggestions? plenty of polluted water laying around. also found an oil... geyser? Ice. Dig to a cold biome and dump ice into your water reservoir. If you need water NOW, you can sculpt ice blocks in the water and it will instantly melt, filling 400kg of water. You can use a storage compacter and set it to only accept ice to store it underwater. My current map is absurd. I have found the following: A chlorine volcano, a copper volcano, an iron volcano, and a natural gas geyser (YES), but I have yet to find water. My water reserves are still stable, but I'm going to need to resort to this exact procedure to sustain my water usage while I scout out water geysers.
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Jinnigan posted:ok, i got to cycle 60 and have a SPOM up and running. running low on water. any suggestions? plenty of polluted water laying around. also found an oil... geyser? Also, be incredibly careful with a SPOM. Make sure you are cooling the air from the SPOM before you pump it into your colony, or you are going to heat your base up and suffer heat death.
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Classic SPOM.
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We don't know if Jinnigan made a classic SPOM, or just a SPOM. Any oxygen generator that is self powered is a SPOM, and may or may not be cooled. My first SPOM did not include that design. It used a separate 'cooling' room that doubled as a control room for adjusting flow rates to various parts of the base depending on need, as an example.
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I found this guy's guides while googling around. What do you guys think of these building blueprints for base design? Are they good? Up to date and all that? I'm asking because i wanna copy a bunch of it for myself.
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They're fine and all are up to date apart from the suboptimal section. The coal gen room is a nice early game start though you could be like me and just keep digging deeper CO2 sinks instead of throwing together a skimmer. The natural gas gen room is fine apart from the attached polluted water cooling section (could be done in a separate place), though probably you'll be hard pressed to need that many.
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neogeo0823 posted:I found this guy's guides while googling around. What do you guys think of these building blueprints for base design? Are they good? Up to date and all that? I'm asking because i wanna copy a bunch of it for myself. They're a good start.
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Requesting mod to allow latrines / showers to use any liquid, but especially molten glass 
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I still don’t know what to do with the anti-entropy thingy. Like it just doesn’t seem to be able to absorb significant amounts of heat.
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tuyop posted:I still don’t know what to do with the anti-entropy thingy. Like it just doesn’t seem to be able to absorb significant amounts of heat. They totally do. I built a big insulated chamber around two of them and pumped my CO2 into it. It got so cold that the gaseous CO2 entering the chamber condensed and froze before it hit the ground, effectively causing it to snow CO2 in the chamber. I don't think you even need two of them to get that kind of cooling but it was my first time experimenting with them and the two of them were in such close proximity I figured I'd give it a try.
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tuyop posted:I still don’t know what to do with the anti-entropy thingy. Like it just doesn’t seem to be able to absorb significant amounts of heat. I forget who it was, but their cooling is the equivalent of 100's of wheeze worts. AETN's cool a lot. A looot.
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tuyop posted:I still don’t know what to do with the anti-entropy thingy. Like it just doesn’t seem to be able to absorb significant amounts of heat. Pump excess hydrogen into a insulated, sealed chamber around it. If memory serves, hydrogen is the best heat conductor of the gasses. If you can, use a high-pressure vent to get the hydrogen as dense as you can. From there you can do two things: run radiant air pipes through there to cool gasses or, if you have the power, run Thermo Regulators to cool gasses a set amount, using the chilled hydrogen to keep the regulators cool. If you want to get really fancy, you can run a coolant loop of oil through your base, and either have a liquid storage tank in the AETN's area of effect, or have an open tank that you pump out of, passing it through the AETN to cool it off.
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pfft an AETN can't even keep up with an 8.8kg/s copper volcano.
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Is there some issue with the metal refinery currently? It says there's a pipe blocked, and considering I was able to fill the refinery with water, I'm assuming it's the output pipe. I've completely rebuilt the entire run a couple times, and it seems like the water gets stuck at the first pipe section coming out of the refinery. What even the heck is going on?  The 10kg of water is in the section of pipe that exits the refinery. the very next section down the line is empty. How do I fix this?
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The output pipe looks greyed out. Has it been built yet? If so, trying saving and reloading.
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Xand_Man posted:The output pipe looks greyed out. Has it been built yet? If so, trying saving and reloading. Somehow, a save and reload made it work. Thanks for that!
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