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I know that's true in theory, but they've all glommed up into one giant stack (of course) and I'm not 100% confident that the Templars and Hospitallers will actually sit on the sidelines when battle comes. I don't trust anyone in these situations, not even the game.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I just won a crusade at the worst possible time. Now I've got the Kingdom of Jerusalem, but I can't rustle up nobles to staff it because it's right in the middle of the black plague and they're all dying too fast. 'Summon a Holy Man' is a pretty cheap source of characters at only 25 Piety. Sometimes they'll be Ambitious, of course, but you can send them away instantly if so.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:58
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evenworse username posted:I know that's true in theory, but they've all glommed up into one giant stack (of course) and I'm not 100% confident that the Templars and Hospitallers will actually sit on the sidelines when battle comes. Stacks on the map are actually just visual representations of multiple individual units that makes it easier for you to parse as a player. They move together but they will still break apart into separate combat stacks when there's something like a Holy Order in there that isn't allowed to fight against a particular target.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:58
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Once I learned turning off demense size applies to not just you but also the AI, I started a 768 game with no vassal/demense limits just to see how batshit things would get. The year is now 1200, and the world has devolved into three megablobs: Norse Britannia, which owns all of Scandinavia, all of Western Europe, and all of Africa including Mali up to about modern day Libya. Iconoclast Byzantium, which is still clinging to most of Greece and Turkey despite being slowly subsumed by the other blobs holy war by holy war. Zoroastrian Persia, which owns all the rest of Africa, the Arabian Peninsula, the full boundary of the Persian empire, and ~90% of India. I think my favorite bit is the Pope continuously calling for crusades for Italy despite there being no Catholic rules left in the entire world and Catholicism sitting at a cool 0% MA.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:11
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Sydin posted:Once I learned turning off demense size applies to not just you but also the AI, I started a 768 game with no vassal/demense limits just to see how batshit things would get. The year is now 1200, and the world has devolved into three megablobs: I thought there was a MA minimum to being able to call crusades/great holy wars?
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Sep 26, 2018 22:16
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Yeah I have no idea. I think the game might be broken thanks to there being so many guys floating around with like 80 titles.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:22
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As a Norse, is there any clever trick to have people raiding AND being at war at the same time? Besides retinues.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:33
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Stacks on the map are actually just visual representations of multiple individual units that makes it easier for you to parse as a player. They move together but they will still break apart into separate combat stacks when there's something like a Holy Order in there that isn't allowed to fight against a particular target. learned this the hard way attacking what I thought was a vulnerable indian kingdom, they were in the middle of attacking some other guy along with a duchy that has like 50k event troops sitting around from a scripted horde a few centuries back, and were able to use those troops to own me even though the duchy should've had no beef with me (they didn't show up on the war overview for my war as allied or anything)
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Sep 27, 2018 00:16
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Fat Samurai posted:As a Norse, is there any clever trick to have people raiding AND being at war at the same time? Besides retinues. Have some troops flagged as raiders and some not? I always forget to flag my retinues to NOT raid before I start a war so I sit in my enemie's county for a couple months like a moron wondering why my warscore isn't increasing.
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Sep 27, 2018 00:50
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I know nomads at least absolutely cannot raid if you're at war. Makes it really annoying when you're an inch away from finishing a castle siege and somebody a million miles a way war decs you, instantly ending the raiding siege 
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Sep 27, 2018 01:12
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So what triggers the chess with death event? I had that happened twice now in the current run. Is it letting someone stay in your castle after showing up? Oh well at least my ruler now is the Wolf Queen who has gave several of her kids that trait.
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Sep 27, 2018 02:10
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Does having a holy order help you siege faster even if you're besieging someone if the same faith?
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Sep 27, 2018 02:12
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How did you get Crusader Kings into the 21st Century? FreudianSlippers posted:Does having a holy order help you siege faster even if you're besieging someone if the same faith? I want to say it did in Vanilla, but I think it got patched a few years ago. big dyke energy posted:Have some troops flagged as raiders and some not? I always forget to flag my retinues to NOT raid before I start a war so I sit in my enemie's county for a couple months like a moron wondering why my warscore isn't increasing. I'm not sure if this is a good strategy, but having your could have guys raid and burn down a few counties before you go to war too. Cut down their levies, when you sack their holdings then use the money for mercs to replace any guys you lose. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Sep 27, 2018 |
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Sep 27, 2018 02:24
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So does the Vassal War Declaration law even work? I have it set to "Illegal" which according to the tool tip means vassals can't declare any kind of war at all, and yet they're still continuing to kick the poo poo out of each other.
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Sep 27, 2018 04:30
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Sydin posted:So does the Vassal War Declaration law even work? I have it set to "Illegal" which according to the tool tip means vassals can't declare any kind of war at all, and yet they're still continuing to kick the poo poo out of each other. It'll still let people go to war after failing to imprison a vassal.
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Sep 27, 2018 04:43
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Phew, finally managed to complete Black Bishop. I've been trying to get that since the drat game was released! Two final achievements - Prodigious Five and Not So Bad. Kill me now!
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Sep 27, 2018 06:10
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Moreau posted:Phew, finally managed to complete Black Bishop. I've been trying to get that since the drat game was released! Two final achievements - Prodigious Five and Not So Bad. Kill me now! So you've stomped the pope with elephants? Not bad. Question! If a child uses a different portrait set than either parent, can it ever be their legitimate child? For example, can it inherit the portrait set of a grandparent?
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Sep 27, 2018 07:33
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pidan posted:So you've stomped the pope with elephants? Not bad. I was just wondering how you would do that. It should work with the caliph too. I have lots of elephants and I'm slowly expanding my giant Indian empire westward and I wanna trample that drat caliph dammit
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Sep 27, 2018 07:41
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pidan posted:So you've stomped the pope with elephants? Not bad. It can, yes. You can easily see that as a merchant republic. As Venice, when one of your unmarried relatives gets himself a nice African bride somewhere (through the merchant republic event), they can have children that use the Italian portrait but grandchildren who have the Ethiopian portrait for example.
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Sep 27, 2018 10:15
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big dyke energy posted:Have some troops flagged as raiders and some not? I always forget to flag my retinues to NOT raid before I start a war so I sit in my enemie's county for a couple months like a moron wondering why my warscore isn't increasing. Unless I’m missing something, which is perfectly possible, you cannot set troops to raid if you’re at war, and you cannot declare war if you have raised troops. I’m on 790 on my latest game and have managed to build a shipyard before the viking age event. I want to send my people raiding while punching single counties in Finland with the conquest CB. Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Sep 27, 2018 |
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Sep 27, 2018 10:23
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You can use your retinues to raid, which then allows you to declare war. If you are big enough, you use your retinues to burn down the enemy's holdings, then declare war and easily take the land that your pillaged before, running up the warscore. By the way, money is at a premium for tribals, so you just wasted a lot of it on a shipyard that would have been gifted to you by the event.
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Sep 27, 2018 10:42
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Torrannor posted:You can use your retinues to raid, which then allows you to declare war. If you are big enough, you use your retinues to burn down the enemy's holdings, then declare war and easily take the land that your pillaged before, running up the warscore. That’s why I said “besides retinues”. Anyway, considering the Viking event hasn’t fired yet and that I got 120 gold and prestige in from the first two raids in a year and a half, I’m confident in my choice. Shipyards (which cost 300 Prestige, not money, BTW) are vital and worth rushing because they pay for themselves fast. I could have chosen Military Organization as my technology in order to have retinues, but then I wouldn’t have ships to ferry them. The thing that I’m giving up is war, and that’s what I’m trying to fix, but it seems the game is adamant on making me choose between money and land.
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Sep 27, 2018 11:03
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Torrannor posted:By the way, money is at a premium for tribals, so you just wasted a lot of it on a shipyard that would have been gifted to you by the event. Not really. The Viking Age event upgrades shipyards by +1, not just giving free lvl-1 shipyards. Fat Samurai will get a free upgrade to a lvl 2 shipyard when it fires.
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Sep 27, 2018 11:06
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Didn’t know that, nice
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Anglo-Saxon reconquista is going well. I rule at least half of England, but only have 40% of the levies. I will make my move when William dies. 
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Fat Samurai posted:As a Norse, is there any clever trick to have people raiding AND being at war at the same time? Besides retinues. FreudianSlippers posted:Does having a holy order help you siege faster even if you're besieging someone if the same faith?
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pidan posted:So you've stomped the pope with elephants? Not bad. As I recall, I got that one from imprisoning the Caliph, who was a vassal, so it ended up being pretty easy. Pulled an all-nighter and got the Prodigious Five, so all that remains is Not So Bad. Total luck of the draw, that one. Uggghhh... with luck, I can pick it up before I cross the 2000 hour barrier!
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binge crotching posted:It'll still let people go to war after failing to imprison a vassal. Ah, that makes sense. drat you loopholes!
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Deceitful Penguin posted:
I've used that tactic s few times but I was never sure if it was actually helping or if it was a placebo effect causing the seiges to just feel faster. I usually had it as a backup force going around besieging holdings away from the action while the main force does the actual battles
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I randomly decided to check CK2 twitter account and I found these pictures without any commentary https://twitter.com/CrusaderKings/status/1045234905494556672 https://twitter.com/CrusaderKings/status/1044919563597611008 Hellenic religion... returns?
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Sep 27, 2018 19:30
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Oh wow, those certainly look like pictures of a Zeus statue and a classical Greek (or Roman) temple! I'm always up for more religion variation. If we can resurrect Zoroastrianims or even Zunism, why not Greek or Roman paganism?
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Sep 27, 2018 19:42
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When all else fails I open my heart and put my faith in Hades
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Azhais posted:When all else fails I open my heart and put my faith in Hades I'll be mad if Paradox goes with Hades as the quasi-Satan instead of like, Kronos or something Revived Hellenism sounds dope as gently caress otherwise though
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So I have a couple of questions about merchant republics, having barely touched them outside of attempting to reproduce The Merchant of Venice, which comes to a screeching halt less than a day in game as the doge clicks on 'banish the Jewish' and my game comes to an end. 1) Are castle holdings ever useful as a Patrician or a Doge? 2) With tolerance laws can you break the 'male only' rule of Republics? and for shits and giggles, is there a way to play a Jewish Patrician and avoid getting thrown out by the Doge? I mean I assume as a Patrician I have money, right? Can't I bribe him or someone to remain? I have Monks and Mystics but kind of want to avoid going the secret Catholic route.
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MaxieSatan posted:I'll be mad if Paradox goes with Hades as the quasi-Satan instead of like, Kronos or something It'll just be a copy/paste with Lucifer's own anyway, just like the Hel version.
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Dwesa posted:I randomly decided to check CK2 twitter account and I found these pictures without any commentary They really are using Holy Fury to address every remaining problem or desired feature, huh. I guess that one paradox forums guy who kept arguing about Hellenic peasants in early medieval Laconia is gonna be feeling very vindicated.
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Well the black death came through and killed half my family, but I got a cool mask of the red death event out of it. I lost a jihad for Mosul, but I managed to win the last bit of Tunis a few years later. So now I'm the Roman empire! My remaining son is maybe the only one who's biologically mine, but he's pretty bad stats wise. So I guess that's game over for me until we get holy fury.
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Man my queen in my current game is pretty metal for in her 60s. She has only one eye and has to wear a mask, but she is a lunatic with wolf blood.
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Airspace posted:So I have a couple of questions about merchant republics, having barely touched them outside of attempting to reproduce The Merchant of Venice, which comes to a screeching halt less than a day in game as the doge clicks on 'banish the Jewish' and my game comes to an end. To address your second question first, male succession is hard coded for republics. It's even difficult to cheat yourself a female doge, and simply impossible in normal gameplay. That's because you can't make matrilineal marriages as a merchant republic, screwing with the 5 patrician families mechanic. As for your first question, there's a debate whether you should hold any city beyond your capital at all. Personally, I always like to hold at least two cities in my capital county to make more money at the start. But cities are only good for making you more gold, castles are pretty important to get military power. Later on, when you swim in money and have a huge retinue due to trade posts, and have all mercenary companies hired permanently, castles lose a bit of their importance. But again, cities don't give you anything worthwhile either at that point of the game. As for your Jewish problem, I did not know that the expel Jews decision would mean an automatic game over. The only way to be save from this event would be to always retain the doge title (difficult, especially as someone inexperienced with merchant republics), or play in a duchy level republic. The decision requires being king or emperor. I think there's a start where Venice starts as a duchy, but if not then there are other republics (Genoa, Pisa, Amalfi) that start as duchies. Just be aware that your liege will hate you, and can get a free title revocation with the right laws. All in all, recreating Merchant of Venice sounds fun, but it's also difficult.
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Rirse posted:So what triggers the chess with death event? I had that happened twice now in the current run. Is it letting someone stay in your castle after showing up? I honestly think it's at least partially an anti-cheat-character function. I seem to have it happen really, really often when I make a bonkers OP character with Ruler Designer Unlocked, and I have never seen it outside of that; it might also trigger if your character naturally gets really bonkers OP.
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