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Victorian Electoral Commission is sending out reminders to update your details if you're wanting to work the election on their website. Or register if you haven't.
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Sep 27, 2018 07:57
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Honestly compulsory bike registration seems like a good idea, just like compulsory bike helmets. 
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Sep 27, 2018 08:09
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Honestly compulsory bike registration seems like a good idea, just like compulsory bike helmets. Helmets yes, but what are the arguments for bike registration?
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Sep 27, 2018 08:14
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NTRabbit posted:Helmets yes, but what are the arguments for bike registration? *very boomer voice* I, a car register, why not bikes. Special treatment is bad when it's not for me.
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Sep 27, 2018 08:17
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Well, you see, you should register your flimsy bit of metal/carbon fibre vehicle in the same way you should register your 1000kg metal vehicle for these two modes of transport are equivalent to each other.
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Sep 27, 2018 08:20
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ROAD TOADS! 
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Sep 27, 2018 08:21
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Sep 27, 2018 08:21
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hambeet posted:Victorian Electoral Commission is sending out reminders to update your details if you're wanting to work the election on their website. How does that pay? Reasonably well?
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Sep 27, 2018 08:34
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froglet posted:Well, you see, you should register your flimsy bit of metal/carbon fibre vehicle in the same way you should register your 1000kg metal vehicle for these two modes of transport are equivalent to each other. MY REGO COSTS
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Sep 27, 2018 08:47
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Dude McAwesome posted:How does that pay? Reasonably well? Casual rate including loading is at least $28 p/h
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Sep 27, 2018 08:48
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NTRabbit posted:Helmets yes, but what are the arguments for bike registration? I don't claim to know all of them but there is an argument to be made that it would give the ability to identify (the small minority of) problem cyclists (e.g. failure to obey road rules, road rage), as with current problem car drivers. Currently there isn't really anything you can do about problem cyclists, unless you know and can identify them or have dash cam footage. It shouldn't cost anywhere near what car rego is, but nobody is arguing it should.
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Sep 27, 2018 08:53
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Whitlam posted:I don't claim to know all of them but there is an argument to be made that it would give the ability to identify (the small minority of) problem cyclists (e.g. failure to obey road rules, road rage), as with current problem car drivers. Currently there isn't really anything you can do about problem cyclists, unless you know and can identify them or have dash cam footage. i can't believe that you, whitlam, would buy into a bad idea like this
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Sep 27, 2018 09:02
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mandatory cycling imo
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Sep 27, 2018 09:21
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I can understand the argument, I just think it's loving stupid and has no basis in reality. Blast through a stop sign in a car? You could kill a pedestrian or another driver. Do the same on a bike the only person you are likely to hurt is yourself (admittedly I'm a fan of the "Idaho stop"). Registration should be limited to heavy machinery, which bicycles aren't, because misuse of a car is far more dangerous than misuse of a bike.
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Sep 27, 2018 09:21
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Knowing someone whose hip was broken by a cyclist who didn't think he had to stop for alighting passengers at a tram stop, no they can still cause damage. The capacity for carnage is obviously far removed from a car though and I don't think registration would stop dickheads, regardless. It doesn't in cars!
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Sep 27, 2018 09:24
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froglet posted:I can understand the argument, I just think it's loving stupid and has no basis in reality. I agree that cars are more dangerous, but I've seen pedestrians get injured because of dipshit cyclists blasting through red lights, or riding on the footpath in the city. When that happens, there's not a lot that can be done if the cyclist continues on, which I've also seen. Why do you think registration should be limited to heavy machinery?
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Sep 27, 2018 09:28
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froglet posted:Blast through a stop sign in a car? You could kill a pedestrian or another driver. Do the same on a bike the only person you are likely to hurt is yourself (admittedly I'm a fan of the "Idaho stop"). Do the same on a bicycle and you can cause a smash as cars hit the brakes to avoid the cyclist and rear end each other instead. What about mandatory bike registration and put the money towards building better and isolated bike lanes?
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Sep 27, 2018 09:31
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free bike helmets but all helmets are rego plates handed out by vicroads imo
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Sep 27, 2018 09:40
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GoldStandardConure posted:MY REGO COSTS They pay for the roads don't you know
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Sep 27, 2018 09:41
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Different roads solely for cyclists. But they’re really shittily maintained and sometimes people put tacks and nails on them.
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Sep 27, 2018 09:46
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NTRabbit posted:What about mandatory bike registration and put the money towards building better and isolated bike lanes? There will be no "money to put towards" anything. These schemes have overwhelmingly been found to cost more to implement than they pull in when they are costed. That is simply the *admin* overhead. When you include the public health savings created by cyclists, it's something suprisingly high like $1/km, anything at all that stops people cycling should really be dismissed as crazy.
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Sep 27, 2018 09:46
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Dude McAwesome posted:Different roads solely for cyclists. But they’re really shittily maintained and sometimes people put tacks and nails on them. most of the Perth cycling network fits this description.
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Sep 27, 2018 09:47
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norp posted:most of the Perth fits this description.
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Sep 27, 2018 09:49
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ban bikes, make cyclists only be able to run rickshaws
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Sep 27, 2018 09:52
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charge bike rego but only for mark textor
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Sep 27, 2018 10:05
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Increase tax on spandex cycling gear imo.
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Sep 27, 2018 10:39
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I just want the cops to actually fine cyclists for poo poo other than helmets. No light? 300$. Wearing all black in the middle of winter after dark? 300$. Rego schemes are dumb but if you can't do basic poo poo to make your vehicle roadworthy I'm all in favour of you being fined into oblivion.
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Sep 27, 2018 10:42
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Is riding a bike in casual clothes a crime?
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Sep 27, 2018 10:44
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Ban all bikes, everyone has to drive V8 Holdens and Falcons, just like how Australian God wanted Aussies to be
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Sep 27, 2018 10:53
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Should there be a road rules test for cyclists like there is for drivers in most states? You couldn't pretend the rules don't apply to you then. There's a good reason for separate licenses between motorcycles/scooters and cars. Should it be age-limited? A child riding a bicycle on the footpath killed my grandfather, but that was 1954 and nothing much has changed since then. But someone of adult age should be more responsible, so perhaps make it mandatory at 18? Old enough to vote, old enough to not be a dipshit because you use pedal-power.
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Sep 27, 2018 10:53
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I don't think driving tests roadblock anyone that is going to wantonly drive unsafely.
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Sep 27, 2018 10:59
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yeah I am no expert on transport, but I feel like any licencing or rego system for bikes will just further punish poor people for being poor? And will most likely be enforced disproportionately against people of colour and homeless folk
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Sep 27, 2018 11:02
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Separated infrastructure for bicycles and better facilities are probably the way to go
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Sep 27, 2018 11:05
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hiddenmovement posted:I just want the cops to actually fine cyclists for poo poo other than helmets. No light? 300$. Wearing all black in the middle of winter after dark? 300$. Rego schemes are dumb but if you can't do basic poo poo to make your vehicle roadworthy I'm all in favour of you being fined into oblivion. you're dumb as gently caress, sorry to be the one to bring you this grave news
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Sep 27, 2018 11:05
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Ban all private transportation
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Sep 27, 2018 11:05
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Box of Bunnies posted:Ban all private transportation does that mean I can't use my rollerskates to get around? 
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Sep 27, 2018 11:07
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The Before Times posted:does that mean I can't use my rollerskates to get around? Sorry, we all have to make sacrifices
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Sep 27, 2018 11:09
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subsidise the use of donkeys for transport
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Sep 27, 2018 11:10
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Box of Bunnies posted:Ban all private transportation Ban everything. Ban all life 
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Sep 27, 2018 11:10
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You Am I posted:Ban all bikes, everyone has to drive V8 Holdens and Falcons, just like how Australian God wanted Aussies to be gently caress yeah legalize doughies.
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Sep 27, 2018 11:10
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