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A comment from a Slate article regarding something from the future of the Darkest Timeline:quote:"After the initial furor over the death of Roe v. Wade, things will settle down as pro choice states expand their abortion clinics and entrepreneurial travel agents begin once again to package weekend visits to LA, San Fran, New York, etc., where a woman seeking an abortion can have round trip tickets, two nights in the city, maybe even tickets to a Saturday night show after the morning procedure. Sure, it will cost more and insurance, if it covers anything, will only cover the costs of the procedure. But it's only money and there's always GoFundMe. " 
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basically, the status quo in ireland for decades wrt the uk
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Sep 28, 2018 00:04
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^^^ Until Congress uses the act of crossing state lines to ban abortion nationwide.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:10
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Tollymain posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground https://twitter.com/modernserf/status/1045377334734442496
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Sep 28, 2018 00:10
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bob dobbs is dead posted:basically, the status quo in ireland for decades wrt the uk Still the case in Northern Ireland. They can't even form a government because Loyalist conservative shitheads don't want people learning Irish or talking about abortion.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:11
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DoktorLoken posted:^^^ Until Congress uses the act of crossing state lines to ban abortion nationwide. And the State's rights crowd leads the charge no doubt
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Sep 28, 2018 00:11
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Relentlessboredomm posted:That one and the one with all the horrified women behind him.  Goddamn man, news photo of the year right there
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Sep 28, 2018 00:12
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Yeah one of these Kavanaugh photos has to be Pulitzer worthy.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:21
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 this is my pick bc goddamn
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Sep 28, 2018 00:23
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Relentlessboredomm posted:That one and the one with all the horrified women behind him. Wow, Zina Bash isn’t even making the OK or White Power symbol anymore.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:25
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Wow, Zina Bash isn’t even making the OK or White Power symbol anymore. The victims were rich white women.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:29
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For the record, Kavanugh's nomination is being determined at this very minute. https://twitter.com/DianneG/status/1045451701069713408 Edit: THANKS JOE https://twitter.com/LisaDNews/status/1045456292989603840
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Sep 28, 2018 00:31
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As if this isn't enough, DC Schools hosed up: https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/408672-audio-reveals-dc-principal-mocking-student-claim-of-sexual-assault quote:When the girl left the room, James told Stevens that she was going to take the sexual assault claim to the police in order to embarrass the girl.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:32
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Soulex posted:There is a vote for the supreme court in October apparently that lets state crimes be federally pardonable. Iirc. Lol was that explicitly created for trump because I couldn’t imagine it pushed by the party of small government.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:33
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I hope the New York Times and such forever refer to him as “alleged rapist Justice Kavanaugh”.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:34
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LingcodKilla posted:Lol was that explicitly created for trump because I couldn’t imagine it pushed by the party of small government. There's a serious argument to be had about state/federal double jeopardy laws, where someone could be acquitted on a state charge, then get convicted on a federal charge for the same exact thing. The case is mostly about a guy that essentially had that happen to him and is currently in prison. It's probably a good thing to not have so many people in prison and/or not have as many people get hit by that rule. Unfortunately, if that legal precedent was overturned to a "one or the other" standard, it would flow to the pardon power too. One of those "stumbling on good policies by mistake because you're a corrupt shitter" from the Republicans pushing for it.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:37
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Soulex posted:There is a vote for the supreme court in October apparently that lets state crimes be federally pardonable. Iirc. No, it's whether the state/fed can double-dip - get your case resolved in state court, but be put in jeopardy again by bring retired for the same thing in federal court that you got convicted of/acquitted of in state court, or vice versa. E: and shows we are in 2018 again. Dems screaming against honoring citizens constitutional rights and the GOP falling over themselves to support the same, all because it might tangentially affect their Trump-boner / Trump hate-boner. joat mon fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 00:44
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facialimpediment posted:There's a serious argument to be had about state/federal double jeopardy laws, where someone could be acquitted on a state charge, then get convicted on a federal charge for the same exact thing. The case is mostly about a guy that essentially had that happen to him and is currently in prison. On one hand it prevents dudes from committing hate crimes in rural rear end Mississippi, and having the jury nullify it because they're some racist trash and the dude gets off clean. On the other I could see where this is hosed if those same pieces of trash control at the fed and not the state level.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:45
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i'm glad we got the dog and pony show today that won't matter and that nobody will be talking about by monday.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:49
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Grassley and McConnell are definitely going forward with a vote regardless of whether they have enough to succeed. The old white elephants of the Senate GOP are baying for blood and they're going to force Flake, Murkowski, and Collins to take the hit of a no vote. One things for sure though, Thomas is probably feeling pretty baller tonight for not pissing his pants on live TV during the Anita Hill investigation.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:57
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boop the snoot posted:i'm glad we got the dog and pony show today that won't matter and that nobody will be talking about by monday. this gimmick is getting old
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Sep 28, 2018 01:00
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:this gimmick is getting old I'm not sure it's a gimmick
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Sep 28, 2018 01:03
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Terrifying Effigies posted:Grassley and McConnell are definitely going forward with a vote regardless of whether they have enough to succeed. The old white elephants of the Senate GOP are baying for blood and they're going to force Flake, Murkowski, and Collins to take the hit of a no vote. Kavanaugh going down in flames for McConnell is probably the best outcome for him, because he didn't want him to begin with and still has time to confirm another justice before the election.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:17
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Yeah but I have to imagine this whole event is going to be a negative for the GOP in the polls, especially with women. Look what happened after Clarence Thomas got rammed through.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:19
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I gotta say, today's hearing transformed my opinion of Kavanaugh from normal, boring, turdly conservative to absolute whiney little poo poo bitch who can't even be trusted to weigh in on otherwise nonpartisan cases. Like holy poo poo.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:41
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psydude posted:Kavanaugh going down in flames for McConnell is probably the best outcome for him, because he didn't want him to begin with and still has time to confirm another justice before the election. A useful infographic: https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1045428923440525312 DoktorLoken posted:Yeah but I have to imagine this whole event is going to be a negative for the GOP in the polls, especially with women. Look what happened after Clarence Thomas got rammed through. On the one hand, the GOP is losing an entire generation with something absurd like +70% of under-35 women voting Democratic over the past two years. I fully expect in the next 5-10 years to see the GOP half-heartedly attempt (and fail to) address their 'Woman voter problem' just as they previously did with their 'Hispanic' and 'Black' voter problems in the 90s and 00s. That said, one of the points that really struck me from Perlstein's books on the rise of conservatism in the 60s and 70s was that despite all the talk about women's lib and the New Left, the real foot soldiers of conservatism during the time were women who felt that second wave feminism was an attack on their traditional values, religious morals, and sense of decency, and went out to build reactionary grass roots movements for Goldwater, Nixon, and Reagan. The Republicans are doing everything in their power and then some to poison their relationship with women, but never underestimate the ability for people to double down against their own interests for the chance to 'save the babies' or 'show those harlots.'
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:this gimmick is getting old 
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Terrifying Effigies posted:A useful infographic: Yeah. I think the lines between political parties are being redrawn along cultural, rather than economic, policies. I think, long term, Republicans end up like the white minority parties of South Africa. And much like the white minority parties of South Africa, they're trying their damndest to drag everyone down with them on their way out.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:51
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Fister Roboto posted:Graham is completely losing his poo poo. It would've appeared so if he didn't glance at his loving script every 5 words.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:52
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psydude posted:Still the case in Northern Ireland. They can't even form a government because Loyalist conservative shitheads don't want people learning Irish or talking about abortion. I thought anglicans didn't care about abortion and catholics cared a lot. DoktorLoken posted:^^^ Until Congress uses the act of crossing state lines to ban abortion nationwide. Have DoJ interpret crossing state lines to get an abortion an "immoral purpose" and let Mann act and Chevron take its course.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:55
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Terrifying Effigies posted:Grassley and McConnell are definitely going forward with a vote regardless of whether they have enough to succeed. The old white elephants of the Senate GOP are baying for blood and they're going to force Flake, Murkowski, and Collins to take the hit of a no vote. I can't speak to the other two but Murkowski seems to vote in lock step more often than not. About the only thing that might cause her to vote 'NO' is the fact that her seat is up for election this year. She doesn't have much of a spine though, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:57
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The breaking point is indeed women, but women of color.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:58
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CoffeeQaddaffi posted:I can't speak to the other two but Murkowski seems to vote in lock step more often than not. About the only thing that might cause her to vote 'NO' is the fact that her seat is up for election this year. She doesn't have much of a spine though, so I wouldn't hold my breath. Both the Governor and Lt Governor of Alaska have come out against Kavanaugh due to some rulings he made against Native American groups, so Murkowski probably has the most reason in the group to vote NO.
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Sep 28, 2018 02:05
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boop the snoot posted:i'm glad we got the dog and pony show today that won't matter and that nobody will be talking about by monday. I will always remember that Scalia 2 started his career by crying about calanders. I may forget the specifics of an old white man's self rightious and monotone rendition of Shaggy's "It wasn't me".
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Sep 28, 2018 02:10
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KirbyKhan posted:I will always remember that Scalia 2 started his career by crying about calanders. I DIDN'T HAVE RAPE PENCILED IN ON MY CALENDAR, LOOK! 
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Sep 28, 2018 02:16
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orange juche posted:I DIDN'T HAVE RAPE PENCILED IN ON MY CALENDAR, LOOK!
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Sep 28, 2018 02:21
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In other news Elon Musk got sued by the SEC today and they want him barred from running public companies 
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Sep 28, 2018 02:33
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orange juche posted:I DIDN'T HAVE RAPE PENCILED IN ON MY CALENDAR, LOOK! I'd never rape a woman. I love women! Almost as much as I love beer.
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Sep 28, 2018 02:56
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Nothing matters. He will be confirmed. Then another Supreme Court judge will retire/die and Trump will get to pick #3. Good luck women.
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Pretty good summation of where we're at as a country: https://twitter.com/petridishes/status/1045424411950632960
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