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kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Lol free speech

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BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

My baseless guess is that investors are assuming that the LNP isn’t going to do poo poo about the findings and I’d say they’re right, too

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Anidav posted:



Banking stocks soar after Royal Commission report calls them corrupt and greedy.

Uh?

Any market watchers, day traders or economists want to explain what's happening here?

Don't scandals normally drive stocks down.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I think it means they either believe the government will do nothing so they are doubling down or they are pumping the big 4 up so they can dump they later for sick profits when the full report comes out

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Anidav posted:

I think it means they either believe the government will do nothing so they are doubling down or they are pumping the big 4 up so they can dump they later for sick profits when the full report comes out

what

wouldn't the full report tank prices leading to a loss?

Frogfingers
Oct 10, 2012

AbortRetryFail posted:



Doesn't even recognise Little Ted mista speakah

Tim's more into wolves than bears.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

MysticalMachineGun posted:

what

wouldn't the full report tank prices leading to a loss?

They will dump it just before full release. Royal Commission won't cause trading halts meaning it's basically a legal pump and dump

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

gently caress off Fraser Anning.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Here is fool.com.au's take:

The share prices of our largest financial institutions have surged after the release of the interim report from the Hayne Royal Commission this afternoon.

The share price of Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ASX: CBA), Westpac Banking Corp (ASX: WBC), National Australia Bank Ltd. (ASX: NAB) and Australia and New Zealand Banking Group (ASX: ANZ) rallied between 1% and 2% at the time of writing.

This is the relief rally that bank stock supporters have been waiting for as Commissioner Kenneth Hayne saved his most damning criticism for the market regulator, the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC).

While the interim report acknowledged that the banks, including AMP Limited (ASX: AMP), have put profits before people, it was highly critical of the inaction from ASIC as the industry’s policeman seemed more interested in giving the financial institutions a slap on the wrist instead of taking them to court.

There’s no doubt that the banks have acted badly but blaming them is like blaming a spoilt child for bad behaviour instead of looking at the parents for answers.

If you wanted to know where the banks’ bad culture has come from, it was nurtured by ASIC as the regulator has too often looked the other way.

There is one thing you can always count on – and that’s for people to always act in their own self-interest. This is why we shouldn’t be surprised at the banks’ bad behaviour and it explains why self-regulation seldom works.

However, the relief rally in the sector may be a little premature (although understandable as the shares of the big four plus AMP have been significantly de-rated) as the interim report made no specific recommendation on how to prevent a repeat of bad behaviour in the sector.

That will come in the final report to be issued next year.

What is likely though are tougher penalties, more stringent compliance for institutions and easier channels for consumers to lodge complaints against these companies.

This means there will be no way for AMP and our banks to escape a lower profit growth environment given that their earnings growth had received a material uplift from unscrupulous and aggressive practices.

This is even before we consider the added compliance cost, class action lawsuits, higher rates for bank funding, increases in bank provisioning and a falling property market that could remain in the doldrums till 2020.

Having said that, the time to buy the banks may not be far off. If the October reporting season is more benign than expected, and the fall in house prices starts to slow, that will be an indicator for me to become more upbeat on the sector.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]




Good

im alan jones
Feb 1, 2009

the muhammad ali of radio

https://twitter.com/_robcorr/status/1045461134252204032

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Man poo poo is really hosed at the moment.

Thank god I had a public holiday today not to think about it all.

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

by Pragmatica

Anidav posted:



All part of the plan

Honestly, SBS deserves to be dismantled for creating a dedicated food channel and then never actually playing any OG Iron Chef on it. That should have been like a third of the programming

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Box of Bunnies posted:

Honestly, SBS deserves to be dismantled for creating a dedicated food channel and then never actually playing any OG Iron Chef on it. That should have been like a third of the programming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9j3iDzAs4I

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

No it must be on SBS or it won't count

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

by Pragmatica

I mean yeah, there are tons of other ways out there to watch it, but it just isn't the same, y'know

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/AusElectoralCom/status/1045578303568936960

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009


Full battery, good reception, a minute on the clock, A+ screenshot.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Box of Bunnies confirmed in priority guillotine queue.

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

by Pragmatica

Cartoon posted:

Box of Bunnies confirmed in priority guillotine queue.

That's fine, I volunteer

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

Anidav posted:

How does merging the two benefit the LNP? One budget to cut? More positions to stack with mates?

Wouldn't such a thing need to pass the senate? I guess Pauline would support loving up the ABC. Hmmm

You can sell off half the spectrum (SBS channels) to a new network.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-28/newspaper-sued-defamation-child-photo-youth-crisis/10316664

quote:

An Alice Springs newspaper is being sued after one of its employees took a photo of a 10-year-old Aboriginal boy standing behind a fence at a sports oval and then used it to illustrate a front-page story special on a youth crisis.
The matter was mentioned before Associate Justice Vincent Luppino in the Northern Territory Supreme Court on Thursday.
The boy, now 11, was photographed while at Anzac Oval in Alice Springs one evening "when he was attending for lawful purpose with friends and family", stated a statement of claim lodged with the Supreme Court.
The Centralian Advocate published the photo on its front page in 2017 above the headline "Youth Crisis: town split over kids".
The paper contained a four-page special covering issues of youth crime, curfews, delinquency, police, and youth social services in Alice Springs.
The defamation case against Nationwide News Pty Ltd, the publishing subsidiary of News Corp, was brought by the boy's mother.
Lawyer Peter O'Brien said in the statement of claim that the front page carried several imputations: that the boy was a criminal, a delinquent, that he was imprisoned or detained or that he needed to be imprisoned or detained, and that he was contributing to a crisis situation.
"By reason of the publication of the matter complained of, the plaintiff has been subjected to hatred, ridicule and contempt and has suffered and continues to suffer distress and damage to his reputation," Mr O'Brien said.
The boy had been humiliated and outraged, he said, and had experienced anxiety.
We need a picture for the story on youth crime. Any black kid'll do - News Corp

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
Tim Wilson is really mad that South Park aka porn for lovely edgelords with a very simplistic understanding of the geopolitical landscape is on a publically owned network.

fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.
Suck it Anning.

quote:

The Facebook page of One Nation-turned-Katter's Australia Party senator Fraser Anning has been removed, after apparently breaching the platform's community standards.

Key points:

Fraser Anning tweeted a screenshot showing his Facebook page had been "unpublished", and called it an attack on free speech
It appears to have been removed after one of Senator Anning's posts was reported for hate speech
Supporters have shared their outrage at the page's removal, arguing Facebook picks on conservative commentators
The page and all its posts appeared to have been removed after one of Senator Anning's posts was reported for hate speech.

The comments in question, which were reported anonymously, were in reference to a speech he made in Parliament on the national Safe Schools program.

One person who reported the posts told the ABC they were similar to tweets the Senator has made where he calls Safe Schools a "degenerate program" for "commo perverts".

Senator Anning described the move by Facebook to unpublish his page as an attack on free speech.

"What we essentially have is a foreign corporation deciding what the Australian people can and cannot hear," he said in a statement, where he described himself as "the latest victim of the Zuck".

"The Australian public will not even be given the choice because Mark Zuckerberg has already made it for you."

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
"Mark ZUCKERBERG (in case you missed it, the JEW)"

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
I can only assume Anning is calling for social media to be nationalised. I agree entirely

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

fiery_valkyrie posted:

Suck it Anning.

He's free to publish this poo poo on his own website. How can you be this dumb and not accidentally kill yourself making toast?

fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.
Every time I see an article about a court case for a seriously ill refugee to be allowed to come to Australia for medical treatment that is opposed by the government, I wonder how much money gets spent on these cases given the government always loses and must know by now that they will continue to lose.

Turns out it’s a lot and it’s getting worse.

quote:

The federal government spent more than $320,000 in legal costs last financial year on challenging requests for urgent medical transfers of asylum seekers and refugees on Nauru and Manus Island.

The cost is likely to be far higher this year, with a growing number of critically ill people seeking the federal court’s intervention after officials refuse recommendations from doctors to bring them to Australia.

In many cases doctors have repeatedly recommended transfers for patient, sometimes for months or years, only for the recommendations to go unheeded by governing authorities, including both the Australian and Nauruan governments, until a federal court order for a medical transfer can be obtained.

In responding to questions on notice to the Senate last month, the department of home affairs revealed it had incurred $326,012 in legal costs in responding to those court proceedings.

The amount is not believed to include the costs of the urgent transfers themselves, including air ambulances and subsequent treatment for critically ill patients.

The Department of Home Affairs and the office of minister Peter Dutton did not respond to questions.

“This is a shocking waste of money, but even if it was free, it is unconscionable to prevent children from getting medical care,” said Greens senator and immigration spokesman, Nick McKim. “There can be no excuse for keeping any human being in these conditions.”

It does not appear any transfer applications to the court have been dismissed, and many more are expected to be lodged amid a worsening physical and mental health crisis on the island.

So far in 2018 one of the legal groups involved, the National Justice Project, has had 22 legal matters, with 19 involving children as the primary applicant.

Guardian Australia is aware of at least 10 cases run by other firms.

Ten of the National Justice Project’s cases (including nine involving children) had court proceedings filed, and a total of 73 people, including 31 kids, have been brought to Australia.

Many are critically ill, with several cases of resignation syndrome – a rare and potentially fatal condition which develops as a reaction to extreme trauma – diagnosed among children.

fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.
Also, is the Saturday Paper a good source? Because this was an interesting read.

quote:

The federal government’s decision to grant $444 million in Great Barrier Reef protection funding as a lump sum to a private foundation came after then treasurer Scott Morrison insisted it was the only way to avoid the grant delaying a return to surplus and undermining the government’s economic credentials.

The Saturday Paper has confirmed much of the sequence of events that led to almost half-a-billion dollars being delivered to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, now the subject of a Senate inquiry.

The paper has also confirmed that former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull – who endorsed Morrison’s approach and made the offer to the foundation personally – has agreed to answer questions from a Senate committee investigating the grant.

Government sources say that in the lead-up to this year’s May budget, Josh Frydenberg – then environment and energy minister, now treasurer – wanted the government to allocate substantial funding to protect the reef from further damage.

Morrison, who was treasurer at the time, responded that because of a solid budget position in 2017–18, funding was available – but only on the condition that it was all allocated and spent before the financial year ended on June 30, 2018.

The Saturday Paper understands Morrison argued that allocating reef funding in stages across the budget’s forward estimates was unacceptable because it would commit the government to fixed amounts in future years when other variables in the economy might limit the available cash. That could leave too little in the coffers and jeopardise the government’s chances of getting the budget back into surplus as promised in 2019–20.

Spending all the funds in the current year would avoid that.

But in order for the budget to designate the reef funds as having been spent – and not to have to carry over or reallocate any in future years – the money needed to be given to an organisation that wasn’t a Commonwealth agency.

The full article has a lot more detail.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2018/09/29/exclusive-morrison-set-reef-grant-terms/15381432006927

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
:auspol:?

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2018/09/29/exclusive-morrison-set-reef-grant-terms/15381432006927

quote:

The terms of Malcolm Turnbull’s $444 million Barrier Reef grant were set by Scott Morrison, who as treasurer insisted the money not go to a Commonwealth agency.

The federal government’s decision to grant $444 million in Great Barrier Reef protection funding as a lump sum to a private foundation came after then treasurer Scott Morrison insisted it was the only way to avoid the grant delaying a return to surplus and undermining the government’s economic credentials.

The Saturday Paper has confirmed much of the sequence of events that led to almost half-a-billion dollars being delivered to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, now the subject of a Senate inquiry.

The paper has also confirmed that former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull – who endorsed Morrison’s approach and made the offer to the foundation personally – has agreed to answer questions from a Senate committee investigating the grant.

Government sources say that in the lead-up to this year’s May budget, Josh Frydenberg – then environment and energy minister, now treasurer – wanted the government to allocate substantial funding to protect the reef from further damage.

Morrison, who was treasurer at the time, responded that because of a solid budget position in 2017–18, funding was available – but only on the condition that it was all allocated and spent before the financial year ended on June 30, 2018.

...
:auspol:

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Saturday Paper is a very good source and 8s probably correct.

I wish I could afford a sub

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
If I were a rich man I would sub to SP, AFR and maybe Crikey/Bloomberg :shrug:

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
you should only sub to a proper dom who respects you

ssmagus
Apr 2, 2010
Assmagus, LPer ass-traordinaire

thatbastardken posted:

you should only sub to a proper dom who respects you

buuuut what about my twitch monies?

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

BBJoey posted:

My baseless guess is that investors are assuming that the LNP isn’t going to do poo poo about the findings and I’d say they’re right, too

LNP will address the findings by creating a government funded ethics incentivisation scheme, whereby banks receive financial rewards for (self-reported) ethical behaviour.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Protip: open every article you want to read on the Saturday paper in a new tab, then click on read your one free article for the week in each tab.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Supporters of right-wing politics are prettier, more confident and satisfied than those on the left, conservative commentator Daisy Cousens has told a libertarian conference in Brisbane on Saturday.

Ms Cousens pointed to research, including one study published in the Journal of Public Economics, which found a link between right-wing politicians and good looks.

Researchers found good-looking people were more likely to earn more and wealthier people tended to oppose redistributive government policies.

They also said attractive people might receive better treatment than other people in society and therefore saw the world as more just.

Ms Cousens, speaking at LibertyFest at Royal on the Park, said the “leftie researchers” came to those conclusions because they were “annoyed because their side is the ugly side of politics”.

“They’re like, oh well, fine then, that’s because you’re evil, that’s why you’re prettier than me,” she said.

A male audience member had claimed feminists were “generally pretty unattractive”, including their personalities, and said “no man is ever going to touch them”, before asking for Ms Cousens’ opinion.

Ms Cousens said people on the right were on average more attractive because they were more confident.

“Particularly the women, and have a much more grounded sense of self, and are not afraid to let men be men and women be women,” she said.

“And if you have a really great sense of self-satisfaction and you’re not feeling like you’re constantly struggling and you’re happy to acknowledge the differences between people, well of course you’re going to have a nicer personality because you’re going to be happier.”

Ms Cousens said there was a complex among feminists that equated unattractive personalities to unattractive looks, although not always.

“It’s a confidence issue and it’s a lack of kind of self-groundedness and self-satisfaction,” she said.

Ms Cousens also took aim at what she described as the “identity politics oppression Olympics”.

She said there was a “victimology scale” where straight white males were at the bottom, while black women, trans and gay people had more “victim points”.

"Those at top of the scale are granted the loudest voice and allowed to express themselves in whatever way they want," she said.

"So they can be as crass, as bitchy, as bigoted and as spiteful as they choose.

"But because they have accrued the most victim points, nobody is allowed to reprimand them."

Ms Cousens said people at the bottom of the scale were condemned to sit in silence while they were bullied and unable to defend themselves against a barrage of hatred for simply existing in the wrong form.

She said straight white men were used as a scapegoat.

“The modern left still thinks we’re in the '90s, they still think white men are the absolute most advantageous people ever and that we’re still fighting against the Christian right, they have this thing on about Christians,” she said.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1045914745834942464

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
gently caress off Daisy Cousens.

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Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

Anidav posted:

Supporters of right-wing politics are prettier, more confident and satisfied than those on the left, conservative commentator Daisy Cousens has told a libertarian conference in Brisbane on Saturday.

Ms Cousens pointed to research, including one study published in the Journal of Public Economics, which found a link between right-wing politicians and good looks.

Researchers found good-looking people were more likely to earn more and wealthier people tended to oppose redistributive government policies.

They also said attractive people might receive better treatment than other people in society and therefore saw the world as more just.



The point of this study just went right over her head didn't it? Did she also see the study that said people who support progressive policies tend to be more intelligent?

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