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fruit on the bottom posted:What’s the difference between that and transphobia? you get to explain it
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fruit on the bottom posted:What’s the difference between that and transphobia? "-phobia" is ableist to people who get scared
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fruit on the bottom posted:What’s the difference between that and transphobia? New term that better reflect what's going on. People want to get away from describing bigotry as a phobia since it's not a fear response, just a hateful one. The miso- comes from misogyny, specifically trans-misogyny which got shortened into transmisia and adopted to broadly cover all anti-trans bias.
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Sep 27, 2018 23:17
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there wolf posted:New term that better reflect what's going on. People want to get away from describing bigotry as a phobia since it's not a fear response, just a hateful one. The miso- comes from misogyny, specifically trans-misogyny which got shortened into transmisia and adopted to broadly cover all anti-trans bias. It doesn't come from "misogyny", that just happens to be another word that uses the miso- "hatred, aversion" affix.
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Sep 27, 2018 23:26
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Besesoth posted:It doesn't come from "misogyny", that just happens to be another word that uses the miso- "hatred, aversion" affix. It quite literally does since it's the elided form of trans-misogyny.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:08
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what a weird term. misogyny is quite literally about women, putting a prefix on 'misogyny' to describe a hatred of people who aren't always women doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:20
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there wolf posted:It quite literally does since it's the elided form of trans-misogyny. Whoever told you this was wrong too. "Transmisia" is equivalent to "transphobia" but with μῖσος ("hatred") substituted for φόβος ("fear"). It's not a contraction or elision of anything.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:21
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yay let's fight over queer terminology more
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Sep 28, 2018 00:28
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This is why the left never gets anything done.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:35
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is it because any time people are having a normal discussion a bunch of mouthbreathers have to shuffle in and whinge about it? i could see that being damaging to progress, yes.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:48
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Besesoth posted:Whoever told you this was wrong too. "Transmisia" is equivalent to "transphobia" but with μῖσος ("hatred") substituted for φόβος ("fear"). It's not a contraction or elision of anything. My own observations about the language shifts in my community are wrong because you have a Greek dictionary. Ok bro.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:52
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So does this also mean homophobia is now homomisia?
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there wolf posted:My own observations about the language shifts in my community are wrong because you have a Greek dictionary. Ok bro. I guess that means my own observations about the language shifts in my community, combined with my Classical Studies degree, are wrong because you're bad at linguistics and think correlation means causation.  To drag this screaming back onto topic, someone help this idiot with social media: what happened with Ariana Grande that #WeLoveYouAriana is trending on Twitter? SneezeOfTheDecade has a new favorite as of 01:05 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 01:02
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she apparently tweeted about wanting 'just one okay day'.
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poo poo, I want one of those all the time, someone should make a hashtag for me. https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/1045422483082551302 SneezeOfTheDecade has a new favorite as of 01:19 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Besesoth posted:I guess that means my own observations about the language shifts in my community, combined with my Classical Studies degree, are wrong because you're bad at linguistics and think correlation means causation. Also trans, also have a classics degree. Still think you're wrong. there wolf has a new favorite as of 01:38 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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i looked it up. trans-misogyny is the intersection of transphobia and misogyny. transmisia is, apparently, a not widely used term (on the internet) used to replace 'transphobia' by people who think the usage of -phobias to describe various bigotries is damaging to people who suffer from more classical phobias. at the very least, trans-misogyny is a distinct bias as compared to transmisia, so i don't think one would naturally evolve into the other.
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PhazonLink posted:So does this also mean homophobia is now homomisia? Yes , the idea is to be as descriptive as possible and not to give bigots and out by saying they were afraid. Remember the gay and trans panic defenses are still valid in much of the country.
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Sep 28, 2018 02:07
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I'm just going to keep saying "anti-gay" and "anti-trans" because everyone seems to understand that when I do
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AlbieQuirky posted:I'm just going to keep saying "anti-gay" and "anti-trans" because everyone seems to understand that when I do I find the word "rear end in a top hat" tends to work pretty well.
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AlbieQuirky posted:I'm just going to keep saying "anti-gay" and "anti-trans" because everyone seems to understand that when I do Audience is important. Transmisia seems useful in circles where the precise definition is appreciated. Anti-[group] seems useful in dealing with folks who don't run in those circles and don't know what the gently caress yet. Refining language to better describe a concept seems like the natural progression of language so I don't know what the fuss is about?
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Warmachine posted:Audience is important. Transmisia seems useful in circles where the precise definition is appreciated. Anti-[group] seems useful in dealing with folks who don't run in those circles and don't know what the gently caress yet. Jargon also has a tendency to alienate others and become a shibboleth for restrictive in-group out-group categorization. If you're not doing research, might want to stick to language other people might actually understand. Not many people are interested in taking the equivalent of a college class before you deign to speak to them. I think it's hard enough labor to battle homophobia and transphobia without starting a simultaneous battle over finding new words for them because of some etymological pedantry. Absurd Alhazred has a new favorite as of 04:32 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Jargon also has a tendency to alienate others and become a shibboleth for restrictive in-group out-group categorization. If you're not doing research, might want to stick to language other people might actually understand. Not many people are interested in taking the equivalent of a college class before you deign to speak to them. Bingo.
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fruit on the bottom posted:Several, but none that I’d like answered. Ok just checking. I assumed when you quoted my post (thanks) and said “um.” but nothing else perhaps you had more to say than just “um” but felt it was somehow inappropriate to ask so I wanted to make sure you felt comfortable enough to continue a dialogue with me. Having read your answer, I see now you said everything you wanted to say when you replied with “um”. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding
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oldpainless posted:Ok just checking. I assumed when you quoted my post (thanks) and said “um.” but nothing else perhaps you had more to say than just “um” but felt it was somehow inappropriate to ask so I wanted to make sure you felt comfortable enough to continue a dialogue with me. Having read your answer, I see now you said everything you wanted to say when you replied with “um”. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding More like oldumless!
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Zesty posted:"I was by no means mocking a rape victim" 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Jargon also has a tendency to alienate others and become a shibboleth for restrictive in-group out-group categorization. If you're not doing research, might want to stick to language other people might actually understand. Not many people are interested in taking the equivalent of a college class before you deign to speak to them. see: how folks use 'gaslighting' incorrectly constantly because it has become internal code among the particularly woke i love my peeps but we tend to glom onto in-group words and 
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my aunt still sucks gently caress you, aunt, and gently caress that church. "Yell Jesus and deaths of unarmed black men don't matter!"  (I didn't screencap it all, he did put up the entire log of all the phone calls before the passengers rushed the hijackers) gently caress you, aunt, and gently caress you, Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs, gently caress your whataboutism. "Yell about 9/11 loud enough and nothing else matters!"
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THere is a church near me who sometimes has billboards that are kind of funny if you intentionally misread their meaning, like "Jesus died for a reason... YOU!" I like to read that as a direct accusation, and respond (not directly mind, just as a joke pointing out the wording to passers by if I happen to be going that way) with "Don't put that poo poo on me, I wasn't even born yet!" as a joke.
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I'm getting tired of people giving Mike Rowe the time of day, tbh.
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Sep 28, 2018 11:32
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my girlfriend 💁 stopped ❌😤 peeing 💦 on me after she found out there was tapes 📼 of trump 👺 getting prostitutes 😩👉👌 to pee 💦 on him... she stopped ❌ cuz doesnt 😤 want to indulge any kink 😩👌💦 he 👹 has. i didnt 🙅♂️ even vote 🗳️ for him and im being punished 👮😭 for it. im gonna do whatever 😤 it takes to get that bastart 👿 out of office 🏢 in 2020 📅 so my girlfriend 💏😍 will pee 💦 on me again, even if i have to run 🏃 for president 🤵 myself. my slogan will be "make my showers 🚿 golden 💦 again 😤" wish me luck 🍀🤞
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Jargon also has a tendency to alienate others and become a shibboleth for restrictive in-group out-group categorization. If you're not doing research, might want to stick to language other people might actually understand. Not many people are interested in taking the equivalent of a college class before you deign to speak to them. "Hey, what does the '-misia' bit mean?" "Oh, that means 'hatred,' rather than 'fear.' It seems more accurate." "Ok neat." -the unbridled cannibalism of the far left
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Why not just call it trans-hate and the people who indulge in it trans-haters? That's how people who speak good languages would deal with this sort of thing 
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Jerry Cotton posted:Why not just call it trans-hate and the people who indulge in it trans-haters? That's how people who speak good languages would deal with this sort of thing lol at a Finn talking about good languages
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Araenna posted:Yeah, I don't mean I live near a few family farms, milk is my state beverage. (Extremely Skyrim Voice)A bunch of MILK DRINKERS!
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 "You're homophobic." "No I ain't! I ain't afraid of no gay people!!" "Fine then, you hate gay people." "Yeah! That's better"
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Don’t put that on JR.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:my girlfriend 💁 stopped ❌😤 peeing 💦 on me after she found out there was tapes 📼 of trump 👺 getting prostitutes 😩👉👌 to pee 💦 on him... she stopped ❌ cuz doesnt 😤 want to indulge any kink 😩👌💦 he 👹 has. i didnt 🙅♂️ even vote 🗳️ for him and im being punished 👮😭 for it. im gonna do whatever 😤 it takes to get that bastart 👿 out of office 🏢 in 2020 📅 so my girlfriend 💏😍 will pee 💦 on me again, even if i have to run 🏃 for president 🤵 myself. my slogan will be "make my showers 🚿 golden 💦 again 😤" wish me luck 🍀🤞 Good luck Mr Biden
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