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Mr. Nice! posted:Source your quotes. Piell posted:gently caress off with your rape apologism and victim blaming These are the only two appropriate responses to that poo poo.
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celewign posted:I've got a question: does anyone think it's a little fishy that this lady that was sexually assaulted in the 80s only comes out of the woodwork now that it's convenient for the Dems? I mean, if this guy assaulted her in the 80's why didn't she go to the police in the 80's? Maybe don't pay attention to rear end in a top hat's talking points, you rear end in a top hat. Read the loving transcript. Dr. Blasey Ford posted:Over the years, I went through periods where I thought about the attack. I had confided in close friends I had an experience with sexual assault. Occasionally I stated my assailant was a prominent lawyer or judge but I did not use his name. I do not recall each person I spoke to about Brett's assault and some friends have reminded me of these conversations since the publication of The Washington Post story on September 16th, 2018. But until July 2018, I had never named Mr. Kavanaugh as my attacker outside of therapy. This changed in early July 2018. I saw press reports stating that Brett Kavanaugh was on the short list of a list of very well-qualified supreme court nominees. I thought it was my civic duty to relay the information I had about Mr. Kavanaugh's conduct so those considering his nomination would know about the assault.
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Mikl posted:Trump has nominated a terrible candidate just because Kavanaugh said "a sitting president cannot be indicted". The GOP is 100% regretting this nomination, but can't do poo poo except push forward with the confirmation because if they have to start over with another candidate they won't get it done before the midterms recess, and then there's a chance they could lose control of the senate and therefore no more lovely Trumpist judges for them. Is there actually any law that says your Congress can't do things in the months between election and seating the newly elected people?
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Ornedan posted:Is there actually any law that says your Congress can't do things in the months between election and seating the newly elected people? Congress can do whatever they want in the lame duck session. There's nothing stopping them from conducting business as normal.
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Ornedan posted:Is there actually any law that says your Congress can't do things in the months between election and seating the newly elected people? Nope!
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That's what I thought. So I really don't get where all these "if republicans lose the election they can't confirm a different nominee" takes are coming from?
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Ornedan posted:That's what I thought. So I really don't get where all these "if republicans lose the election they can't confirm a different nominee" takes are coming from? They're either confirming Kav in the next couple of days or will push someone through that is less unpalatable but will still vote the same way. The former is most likely.
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Ornedan posted:That's what I thought. So I really don't get where all these "if republicans lose the election they can't confirm a different nominee" takes are coming from? To do that in the lame duck session after losing the Senate would shatter a lot of cherished norms. So it would absolutely happen, but there are an awful lot of liberals here and elsewhere who believe wrongly that politics is or should be about both sides coming together, bringing out their ideas, and charting the best course for the country.
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Zoran posted:but there are an awful lot of liberals here and elsewhere who believe wrongly that politics is or should be about both sides coming together, bringing out their ideas, and charting the best course for the country. Sadly, Gingrich saw it coming before the left did.
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Zoran posted:To do that in the lame duck session after losing the Senate would shatter a lot of cherished norms. So it would absolutely happen, but there are an awful lot of liberals here and elsewhere who believe wrongly that politics is or should be about both sides coming together, bringing out their ideas, and charting the best course for the country. I hate the attitude or concept that the truth or best option is somewhere in the middle. The enemy of democracy is apathy and moderate voters.
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ilkhan posted:Committee voted aye, one week for FBI background check. Flake asked them to do a week more of investigating, but in reality he just voted yes and said that to pass the buck. No investigation has to happen or likely will happen as McConnell and Trump don't give a gently caress. He'll get a floor vote on monday or tuesday barring something earth shattering happening this weekend and will likely get voted yes along party lines.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Flake asked them to do a week more of investigating, but in reality he just voted yes and said that to pass the buck. No investigation has to happen or likely will happen as McConnell and Trump don't give a gently caress. He'll get a floor vote on monday or tuesday barring something earth shattering happening this weekend and will likely get voted yes along party lines. Flake said he'd vote no if there is no delay.
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torgeaux posted:Flake said he'd vote no if there is no delay. No he didnt, he said he wouldn't be comfortable voting without a delay but didnt say what would happen if his request was denied. Piell fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Flake asked them to do a week more of investigating, but in reality he just voted yes and said that to pass the buck. No investigation has to happen or likely will happen as McConnell and Trump don't give a gently caress. He'll get a floor vote on monday or tuesday barring something earth shattering happening this weekend and will likely get voted yes along party lines. Even if an investigation does happen, one week is barely enough time to even interview the known accusers, let alone actually "investigate" anything. Given that, it doesn't really matter whether McConnell waits till Friday or not. The only thing the delay changes is giving them time to see how the polls shake out.
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Shattering a whole bunch of norms and procedures that rely on decorum that give a minority significant power a few weeks before becoming the minority party for the next half decade seems like a bad idea to me, but I'm not Mitch Mcconnell or his collection of skinwalkers in this thread. I also doubt his ability to get all 51 senators to stay in DC over Christmas holiday right after totally boofing the Bart - which is why I think they're going all in on Kav despite the absurd disaster his nomination has become.
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What will the decades of minority-rule by Republicans where election results won't matter anymore in the slightest due to the perma 5-4 SCOTUS court will bring be called? The American Apartheid? Also laff at the idea of it being called anything as Texas Republicans write the history textbooks. EDIT it being called anything NEGATIVE that is jeeves fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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jeeves posted:What will the decades of minority-rule by Republicans where election results won't matter anymore in the slightest due to the perma 5-4 SCOTUS court will bring be called? The American Apartheid? The time America was Great
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haveblue posted:The time America was Great Time to Make America Great Again, AGAIN!
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Tibalt posted:Shattering a whole bunch of norms and procedures that rely on decorum that give a minority significant power a few weeks before becoming the minority party for the next half decade seems like a bad idea to me, but I'm not Mitch Mcconnell or his collection of skinwalkers in this thread. It's worth it to continue being the majority party on the Supreme Court for the next twenty years. McConnell obviously doesn’t want to install someone in the lame duck. I think it's probably true that the GOP hasn’t just nominated a woman for this position because deep down they think they can’t trust any woman to overturn Roe. But if push comes to shove, and they’re facing the prospect of surrendering the SCOTUS majority they’ve worked so hard to save, they’d look at that calculation and they’d absolutely get it done.
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If the GOP somehow can't get Kavanaugh confirmed before the election and they manage to lose the Senate (unlikely but we can hope), McConnell will ram through Kavanaugh or someone else by any means necessary. There is no loving way they will let Democrats return the favor for them loving Obama and Merrick Garland over when 2020 is going to be a bloodbath for them as well if they (or Russia) don't blatantly rig the election. They'd have absolutely nothing to lose by doing a lame duck confirmation. The midterms will already be over and 2016 made it abundantly clear that even the biggest outrages pass for tens of millions of Americans in days, maybe weeks. They'd have 2 years for people to forget, and far too many would.FlamingLiberal posted:If he gets on it will have major consequences. It makes it very likely Dems can push forward Court packing. Dems have to get a majority that want to pack the court in the first place and  if you think there aren't a lot of center right Dems who'd happily keep the court as-is even if Dems take back every branch. Noted human garbage Chuck Schumer would have to be dragged to the left kicking and screaming.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Dems have to get a majority that want to pack the court in the first place and Ultimately, this is either going to be a turning point for the Democratic Party or the end of the Democratic Party. The conservative majority we're looking at now would ban abortion, declare the Civil Rights Act unconstitutional, and bring business regulations and labor law back to the Lochner era.
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Main Paineframe posted:The conservative majority we're looking at now would ban abortion, declare the Civil Rights Act unconstitutional, and bring business regulations and labor law back to the Lochner era. Correction: they’d declare all the enforcement mechanisms of the Civil Rights Act unconstitutional, and then Politifact would call the claim that they’d overturned the Civil Rights Act to be the Lie of the Year.
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Main Paineframe posted:Ultimately, this is either going to be a turning point for the Democratic Party or the end of the Democratic Party. The conservative majority we're looking at now would ban abortion, declare the Civil Rights Act unconstitutional, and bring business regulations and labor law back to the Lochner era. And they’re not even pretending otherwise anymore.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...final-vote.html The comments on this article are gold. We've got about a 3-3-3 split between conservatives claiming Trump is playing interdimensional chess, others claiming Trump has been compromised by Democrats, and the usual sprinkling of victim-blamers and deniers.
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Main Paineframe posted:Ultimately, this is either going to be a turning point for the Democratic Party or the end of the Democratic Party. The conservative majority we're looking at now would ban abortion, declare the Civil Rights Act unconstitutional, and bring business regulations and labor law back to the Lochner era. Yeah we're pretty hosed because the Democrats in Congress are largely useless, or they honestly don't give a poo poo because at the end of the day they're wealthy old white people.
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The best part of this innocent man getting the nomination is the incredible truck loads of salt that will pour out of this neck beard virtue signaling echo chamber. lols for decades (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Ornedan posted:That's what I thought. So I really don't get where all these "if republicans lose the election they can't confirm a different nominee" takes are coming from? If they give up on Kavanaugh, they can try to cram another nominee through extremely quickly, but there's not a huge amount of time to do so before January, and it limits how much other poo poo they can cram through in the meantime. Doesn't mean they won't try, but 
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FronzelNeekburm posted:If they give up on Kavanaugh, they can try to cram another nominee through extremely quickly, but there's not a huge amount of time to do so before January, and it limits how much other poo poo they can cram through in the meantime. Doesn't mean they won't try, but
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FronzelNeekburm posted:If they give up on Kavanaugh, they can try to cram another nominee through extremely quickly, but there's not a huge amount of time to do so before January, and it limits how much other poo poo they can cram through in the meantime. Doesn't mean they won't try, but The amount of time it takes to confirm a SCOTUS nominee is a norm, and like the filibuster on lower court appointments it can be jettisoned any time the majority party likes. It may not be the best move politically, but if the current Senate has to confirm a nominee in 2 days in the lame duck they will totally do it without thinking twice. The news cycle moves even faster than normal in the Trump era, and the lame duck is literally the furthest you can get from being held accountable for your actions by the electorate. If Kavanaugh falls through they will most likely fast track Amy Coney Barrett in order to prevent (in their minds) the possibility of being accused of sexual assault or rape or sexism. Unless the GOP suddenly grows a conscience concerning sexual assault, norms, and senate process we will absolutely have a right wing Federalist Society hand-picked judge replacing Kennedy. That part is just not really up for debate in a meaningful way. The points to be scored here are on making the GOP own their mistake of standing by their man to generate turnout for the midterm and in 2020. ErIog fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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ShadowHawk posted:Not pictured: Garland The last time wapo did a similar graph, Garland’s line was just the word “Ignored”. That’s going to be in a history textbook someday, if the Lord Humungus permits textbooks.
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I look forward to the forthcoming supreme Court opinions ranting about the Libs and Clinton-funded conspiracies. You guys make me feel better about my own lovely government. (But then also worse because our idiots take their cues from your idiots, just a couple of years later.)
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Professor Skittles posted:can someone link me to that tweet that shows kavanaugh in an overly innocent light it was like "me and my friends satiated ourselves with some water coolers, then proceeded with sexual rhtoric of which i reprimanded them immediately"or something. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-1982-diary-supreme-court-yearbook-satire.html Here's one entry: quote:June 13th
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