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Basically, Sega was confident that 3d was a gimmick and fully-polygonal games were still another console generation away, so they put all their effort into making a console that would beat the Super Nintendo's sprite based graphics. Then Sony dropped the previews for the games they were working on for their new console and everybody panicked. They ended up bolting on extra chips that the system wasn't optimized for and rushed it out the door to try and get ahead of the PlayStation, and actually ended up alienating a lot of their third-party developers who had already been working on games that were supposed to be launch titles.
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Sega having any console success at all was apparently them just getting lucky.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:53
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That's a pretty common rumor but I thought it turned out that the Saturn really had been built from the ground up as a 3D capable machine, they just underestimated how hard/unappealing it would be to program for.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:56
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That's like when Sony went with that crazy cell processor for the PS3. Developers don't want to have to learn an entire new architecture when they were making multi platform games. Just make it an X86 PC or whatever.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:59
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Randaconda posted:Sega having any console success at all was apparently them just getting lucky. That and Tom Kalinske running the US operation. Never forget Sonic '06/Shadow the Hedgehog is what Sega Japan wanted from the beginning.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:00
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Gynocentric Regime posted:That and Tom Kalinske running the US operation. Never forget Sonic '06/Shadow the Hedgehog is what Sega Japan wanted from the beginning. 
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Sep 26, 2018 22:04
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The Sega Japan devs were reportedly super mad that Kalinske talked management into changing the character design.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:04
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The Saturn used Quads/Squares instead of Triangles on top of it all.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:31
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Cojawfee posted:That's like when Sony went with that crazy cell processor for the PS3. Developers don't want to have to learn an entire new architecture when they were making multi platform games. Just make it an X86 PC or whatever. I think that was a big factor. Between Sony hitting the market earlier than Sega, and the lower price point they managed to accrue a large enough userbase that the PlayStation version of a game would be the obvious choice to develop for first. Since the Saturn hardware was so different on a fundamental level it ended up being an absolute nightmare to port games to.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:31
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They had to code in Assembly or something for the first little while, until Sega sent the kits out.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:44
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oohhboy posted:The Saturn used Quads/Squares instead of Triangles on top of it all. A PC accelerator was released using a similar chip (or possibly leftover stock of the same exact one) and could theoretically have taken off with enough support. It was a question of momentum at that point, but the momentum was strongly in favor of triangles because it was always going to scale better.
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Oh yeah, there was some card where you could play saturn games on your computer or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jChtlWNIAL4
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Cojawfee posted:Oh yeah, there was some card where you could play saturn games on your computer or something. In a similar vein having a Bleem! CD for my PC was hot poo poo back in the day. Also LGR link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFY9Kv1c4-Q
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Sep 29, 2018 04:18
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Thank you all for sharing LGR, my past few work from home days I've just let his dos game vids run in the background on my tv Dude has so many videos
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Sep 29, 2018 12:19
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Regular Nintendo posted:Thank you all for sharing LGR, my past few work from home days I've just let his dos game vids run in the background on my tv They're OK when he just talks and doesn't show his absolutely horrible comb-over.
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Sep 29, 2018 13:30
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LGR is great background audio. His voice is soothing AF
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Sep 29, 2018 13:57
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:LGR is great background audio. His voice is soothing AF If, on the other hand, you want a really annoying voice over obscure games, ADG is your man. He has, amazingly enough, even worse hair.
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Sep 29, 2018 14:02
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Guru Larry has the worst loving voice, I can't stand to listen to him. I occasionally see his videos pop up with topics that interest me, but nope, not watching anything with that voice.
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Sep 29, 2018 17:38
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Veotax posted:Guru Larry has the worst loving voice, I can't stand to listen to him. I occasionally see his videos pop up with topics that interest me, but nope, not watching anything with that voice. I like Guru Larry, but I assume that's what the average Australian sounds like. 
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Sep 29, 2018 18:04
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EEEVBlog has genuinely caused me to research if there is a YouTube plugin to lower the pitch of the presenter.
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Sep 29, 2018 18:13
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Veotax posted:Guru Larry has the worst loving voice, I can't stand to listen to him. I occasionally see his videos pop up with topics that interest me, but nope, not watching anything with that voice. And for some reason he's obsessed with Peter Molyneux and will mention him on every single video. It is like someone being online mad at Justin Bieber on 2018, I mean, who cares anymore. LGR and Techmoan on the other hand are consistently great.
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Sep 29, 2018 18:19
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spog posted:EEEVBlog has genuinely caused me to research if there is a YouTube plugin to lower the pitch of the presenter. I don't watch EEVBlog anymore. His voice is...oof.
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Sep 29, 2018 18:27
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Randaconda posted:I like Guru Larry, but I assume that's what the average Australian sounds like. Guru Larry a) does not sound like an Australian b) isn't Australian. Also he's fat and sweaty and doesn't wash his hair  Queen Combat posted:I don't watch EEVBlog anymore. His voice is...oof. Also he's obsessed with PCBs looking bad like I don't give a gently caress either it works or it doesn't gently caress off with your (literal) whining.
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Sep 29, 2018 18:47
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Clint from LGR also does the best Duke Nukem impersonation. And he makes tasty-looking sandwiches on his other channel.
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I get excited whenever I see a new LGR or Techmoan video. I also like MetalJesusRocks, he sometimes talks about old consoles.
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Queen Combat posted:I don't watch EEVBlog anymore. His voice is...oof. Jerry Cotton posted:Also he's obsessed with PCBs looking bad like I don't give a gently caress either it works or it doesn't gently caress off with your (literal) whining. I much prefer BigClive's fascination with cheap lovely electronics over EEVBlog's whine. BigClive is happy to see new clever cost-cutting measures when they work. For an Australian with a much more pleasant voice, I recommend Chris at Clickspring. and the Antikythera mechanism has to count as a tech relic.
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I have seen every single BigClive video. He is a treasure that the world does not deserve. His knowledge of esoteric circuits and shortcuts, along with his soothing voice and sense of humor (and willingness to publish his designs for free), are sublime. In comparison, EEVBlog is whiny and acts really entitled for some reason. Even though his knowledge is vast, my entertainment life has been significantly happier and more upbeat since I've cut out his constant whining and pessimism from it. Clickspring is also glorious, and I go into withdrawals the moment I finish watching his latest video. I sometimes put on the clock build playlist and just let it run in the background.
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I've been watching LGR since sometime in 2010. I think the first video I saw was the one where he demonstrates the Monkey Island theme on a bunch of different sound cards / devices. Somebody had posted it on the Mixnmojo blog. He's consistently great. I do wish he'd do more game reviews like he used to. Tech Tales is what's making him the most money apparently, but I like game reviews better. That said the last one about the robot was loving gold. I will say that Clint does do a way better job of research than 99% of YouTube people. There's a genre of YouTube nowadays that consists of just reading Wikipedia almost verbatim. The guy who does Lore does or at least did that early on and it got him $10k on Patreon a month and an Amazon series. In one of his early episodes he accidentally reported somebody's creepypasta and didn't bother to even put a disclaimer on the episode later. The stuff he read off as fact was dubious as gently caress too. Clint will actually go to a library and load up some microfiche when he's in pursuit of something. How do you think they divvy up the money on a MJR video where there's a bunch of them on it?
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barbecue at the folks posted:I'm beginning to understand why people said Saturn was a monster to code for. Subscribed. I love dumb programming tricks to get new effects . Say what you will about the Sega Saturday Graphics, the audio filtering and process internals was so overdone that the person that cracked it recently said he wants to make an audio mixer for it because it does some strange and wonderful stuff to audio. For example you could make a filter that does something with an audio stream then you can tell that result to go to another filter and then even back to the first filter and it does it does it so fast and cleanly the value of that ability would be almost like a Korg or Moog device.
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Cojawfee posted:I get excited whenever I see a new LGR or Techmoan video. I also like MetalJesusRocks, he sometimes talks about old consoles. Metal Jesus loves his own voice a lot which you notice whenever he's got a guest on his youtube. Then again if you didn't want to perform, you probably wouldn't make youtubes. lazydog posted:I much prefer BigClive's fascination with cheap lovely electronics over EEVBlog's whine. BigClive is happy to see new clever cost-cutting measures when they work. I'm worried that one day Big Clive will come out as a nazi and then I'll have to stop watching the youtubes. e: Did anyone mention VWestlife yet? He probably posts in this thread anyway. 3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 20:11 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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Sep 29, 2018 20:08
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The latest Technology Connections has the guy poking around in an old full deck CD player with the leads to an oscilloscope trying to reverse engineer it, it's great.
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Jerry Cotton posted:They're OK when he just talks and doesn't show his absolutely horrible comb-over. Give the guy a break, yeesh. At least he sticks to the subject and isn't doing podcasts about race realism
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Regular Nintendo posted:Give the guy a break, yeesh. At least he sticks to the subject and isn't doing podcasts about race realism I'll never be able to fully trust him  I'm pretty sure 8-bit Guy is a nazi by the way.e:  at listening to podcasts in 2018. Or at any time previous.
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Sep 29, 2018 20:25
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Jerry Cotton posted:I'll never be able to fully trust him
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Casimir Radon posted:Because he owns a gun? Yeah. It's not a fool-proof way to tell but it's about 100% accurate.
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I stopped watching 8-bit guy after the weird "I could totally do an AI and it's a government conspiracy that we don't have it yet" video, he apparently later took down and got all prissy because people told him it was poo poo. EEVBlog goes in the same garbage bin with thunderf00t of annoying-voiced strangely entitled-sounding people that are smart but not nearly as smart as they think themselves. I've lately taken to watching RetroManCave. He's a bit annoying at first and has Guru Larry guest once in a while, but he does do some solid videos and has a more British/European outlook than LGR.
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I haven't watched an 8-Bit Guy video in months for whatever reason. I was watching Ross' Game Dungeon a while back but his output slowed down after a serious mold colony attacked his apartment and he had to make plans to GTFO of there. He's a bit of a goofy guy but his stuff is excellent.
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I’ve been on a retrobriting video kick the last month or so. Satisfying watching all those yellowed components restored to near new.
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Sep 29, 2018 20:57
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Jerry Cotton posted:
I love how all these YouTubers have the nicely drawn cartoony versions of themselves on their channels, then you see actual footage of them and they are just some gross nerd.
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Gggmanlives does some stuff well but falls back in trying to impress edgelord types too often. Like when he reviewed alt-right Doom mods and said they weren't anything you should take seriously, unless you're a whiney SJW. Well it's now 2018 and the term has been so abused to hell and back that anyone who doesn't like Nazis might as well be an SJW. A couple if weeks ago he ranked Wolfenstein: TNC second worst in the series because of its cinematics being too long which could be a valid point if he hadn't then complained about the "weird political message".
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