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Wait those are ACTUALLY Peterson diagrams? Christ I thought I was taking the piss. How does anyone take him seriously? 
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Sep 28, 2018 14:05
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ol qwerty bastard posted:Christ I thought I was taking the piss. How does anyone take him seriously? Because he tells people they're smart for thinking the kinds of things they already think.
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Sep 28, 2018 14:09
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ol qwerty bastard posted:Wait those are ACTUALLY Peterson diagrams? You know how with climate change 99 out of 100 scientists agree that it exists and is man made, so the deniers will parade around the one dissenter that agrees with them as much as possible? Jordan Peterson is like that for feminism.
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Sep 28, 2018 14:13
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CommonShore posted:Ugh a guy I kinda know who comes into my morning coffee shop at the same time as me engaged me with JPetes bs the yesterday. He was using the "but have you read the longer version!" argument and it just started my day on a sour note. A terrible white guy I know brought him up at a party and I immediately zoned out and went to talk to someone else. As far as I understand it's just very mainstream conservativism with a thin veneer of like, Jung or Freud applied to make it seem intellectual? And you can't argue with it unless you've read all his boring books and watched his multi-hour critiques of disney movies or whatever.
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Sep 28, 2018 14:18
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Every day I come home and watch Frozen tear down by Cuck Cluck Clan leader, a philosophy professor who can’t win or even stall a 2 minute debate against a VICE News YouTuber.
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Sep 28, 2018 14:21
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Red Bones posted:A terrible white guy I know brought him up at a party and I immediately zoned out and went to talk to someone else. As far as I understand it's just very mainstream conservativism with a thin veneer of like, Jung or Freud applied to make it seem intellectual? And you can't argue with it unless you've read all his boring books and watched his multi-hour critiques of disney movies or whatever. That's basically what I told him and his response was "but you need to go to the longer version! Whatever you read was out of context!"
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Sep 28, 2018 14:53
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Red Bones posted:A terrible white guy I know brought him up at a party and I immediately zoned out and went to talk to someone else. As far as I understand it's just very mainstream conservativism with a thin veneer of like, Jung or Freud applied to make it seem intellectual? And you can't argue with it unless you've read all his boring books and watched his multi-hour critiques of disney movies or whatever. Peterson's whole thing is telling bigots that their bigotry is scientifically justified by telling them "the scientific literature says" and never actually citing any specific sources because they either don't exist or are thoroughly discredited like Jungian psychology.
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Sep 28, 2018 15:59
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Which is weird, because he's a very legit scientist. He's just completely unreliable when he's talking about anything outside of his research area.
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Sep 28, 2018 16:04
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Red Bones posted:A terrible white guy I know brought him up at a party and I immediately zoned out and went to talk to someone else. As far as I understand it's just very mainstream conservativism with a thin veneer of like, Jung or Freud applied to make it seem intellectual? And you can't argue with it unless you've read all his boring books and watched his multi-hour critiques of disney movies or whatever. 
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Sep 28, 2018 16:06
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vyelkin posted:Peterson's whole thing is telling bigots that their bigotry is scientifically justified by telling them "the scientific literature says" and never actually citing any specific sources because they either don't exist or are thoroughly discredited like Jungian psychology. Would you like to know more?
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Sep 28, 2018 16:14
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I've never read any of his stuff and only recently found out who he was, but like much of the alt-right I assume it involves taking social justice concepts and turning them around and/or misapplying them. That's something I've always found it interesting, it's ostensibly a reaction against identity politics, and it is, but when you look closely the language it uses and the beats it hit are actually quite similar.
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Sep 28, 2018 16:19
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The Cheshire Cat posted:You know how with climate change 99 out of 100 scientists agree that it exists and is man made, so the deniers will parade around the one dissenter that agrees with them as much as possible? Jordan Peterson is like that for feminism. He’s also like that for climate change!
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Sep 28, 2018 18:03
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Sep 28, 2018 20:05
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Sep 28, 2018 20:15
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It's weird, my neighbor and I just started talking about Jordan Peterson. The more I learn about him the more and more poo poo he is, but my neighbor is totally "no no really he's being mischaracterized" and the more I see the more it's "People are calling him out for being a poo poo" "You've really got to read all his stuff to understand it" and I'm like, no, the more I read the more poo poo he becomes
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Sep 29, 2018 02:14
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How are all these people “lol so random”ly stumbling across Jordan Peterson? The first time I heard about him, it was someone calling him out for being a wanker.
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Sep 29, 2018 02:22
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I've been hearing that guy mentioned more and more on these here intertubes and I still have no idea what he actually believes.
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Sep 29, 2018 02:25
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I've been hearing that guy mentioned more and more on these here intertubes and I still have no idea what he actually believes. 1) Take alt-right and incel propoganda 2) Package it in formal language and evolutionary psychology Congrats, you made a Jordan Peterson!
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Sep 29, 2018 02:32
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Platystemon posted:How are all these people “lol so random”ly stumbling across Jordan Peterson? youtube pushes him hard
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Sep 29, 2018 02:37
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Piell posted:1) Take alt-right and incel propoganda It's even simpler: he's a bog standard conservative which is basically what the alt-right/incel crew are too except they're explicit about it where he refuses to explit anything.
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Sep 29, 2018 03:18
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I'm late but blindsight owns
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Sep 29, 2018 04:01
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Armacham posted:I'm late but blindsight owns I agree thanks for reading my opinion
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Sep 29, 2018 04:12
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https://twitter.com/micahcohen/status/1045759201082052609
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Sep 29, 2018 04:19
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nice, and bad, trend!
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Sep 29, 2018 06:32
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Do you think it's intentional that the graph looks like  ? Except in reverse, of course...
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Sep 29, 2018 11:25
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Sep 29, 2018 14:29
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Seems fine to me?
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Sep 29, 2018 14:45
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FrozenVent posted:Seems fine to me? The chart isn't the brightest objects in the sky. I mean, UFOs aren't even on the chart!
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Sep 29, 2018 14:48
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FrozenVent posted:Seems fine to me? You have naked eyes in your sky??
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Sep 29, 2018 14:56
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kazil posted:The chart isn't the brightest objects in the sky. I mean, UFOs aren't even on the chart! neither is your mom
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Sep 29, 2018 14:56
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Tetracube posted:neither is your mom Well yeah, she's kinda dumb
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Sep 29, 2018 15:18
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I don't know what "visual magnitude" is or how it's calculated, but the positives and negatives seem reversed. The chart also implies that the sun is about 30% brighter than the moon and not quite twice as bright as Venus , which is obviously false.
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Sep 29, 2018 15:43
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walrusman posted:I don't know what "visual magnitude" is or how it's calculated, but the positives and negatives seem reversed. The chart also implies that the sun is about 30% brighter than the moon and not quite twice as bright as Venus , which is obviously false. - convention going back to ancient Greece: 1st magnitude is brighter than 2nd, etc. - log scale
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Sep 29, 2018 15:52
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The scale is logarithmic, so a -2 is about 2.5 times brighter than a -1, and 6.26 times brighter than a 0
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Sep 29, 2018 15:54
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walrusman posted:I don't know what "visual magnitude" is or how it's calculated, but the positives and negatives seem reversed. The chart also implies that the sun is about 30% brighter than the moon and not quite twice as bright as Venus , which is obviously false. That’s a not an awful chart, it’s just a chart that chart that accurately conveys how awful astronomy is. Magnitude is an attempt to extend a bizarre ancient category system only intended to go from 1-6 by retrofitting a (non-base-10) log scale to it. It makes even Crabs look like a good measurement (unit equal to the brightness of the Crab nebula).
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Sep 29, 2018 15:57
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Talkie Toaster posted:It makes even Crabs look like a good measurement (unit equal to the brightness of the Crab nebula). How did that even come into existence?
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Sep 29, 2018 16:00
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Andrast posted:How did that even come into existence? The Crab Nebula has a powerful lobbying group
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Sep 29, 2018 16:20
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Andrast posted:How did that even come into existence?
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Well, trying to represent a logarithmic scale to the layman using a plain bar graph without labeled axes is just idiotic.
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