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Threadkiller Dog posted:Legacy never ends. At my old job spare part sourcing meant vacuuming the ebays and whatnot for VAX hardware. Safety sensitive systems are amazing with their "if people dont die, dont ever change it" perspective. Your story is similar to the stuff ive seen with air traffic control systems. The FAA has on staff engineers that recreate parts from 1960s systems from companies that have been dead for decades. There are whole printed books at each facility on the systems errata and bugs... but they are all known, which is what matters.
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wargames posted:their sub 10nm isn't going to be silicon based we think but does require EUV which is suppose to be solved with 10nm. wait what? I didn't think the move off silicon was due for another few years yet
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:wait what? I didn't think the move off silicon was due for another few years yet It still won't be for a few more years. They they're actively looking at things like III-V materials and other exotic stuff for gate materials and some other things, but it'll be mostly a SI substrate, with ever more elaborate poo poo deposited onto it.
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:wait what? I didn't think the move off silicon was due for another few years yet we know IBM and that group was looking at something other then silicon for 5nm and I did say after 10nm intel is going to have to switch from silicon and has invested a ton in looking for something other then silicon. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/intel-forges-ahead-to-10nm-will-move-away-from-silicon-at-7nm/
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fishmech posted:7.75 years since the chip came out, and no it really isn't valuable to anyone who doesn't already have a well-prepared overclocking setup to put it in. Wikipedia bot, show me trivia.
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Maybe a dumb question but are there any kind of notification systems you can be running for when 9700/9900k's drop? In a spot where I need one but all the rumors are saying the supply is going to be abysmal and I can't wait months.
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If you're in North America, Silicon Lottery does email notifs on their product pages. They're not your usual retail channel, though. I haven't used ones on other sites, so I don't know if they work instead of ping you when it's already too late.
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It *sounds* like there's going to be preorders for the 9th gen chips. The Z390 boards are supposedly going on sale a week prior to the CPUs. But I think the source for that was WCCFTech, so take it with a *barrel* of salt - I think they were the site that said the stuff was dropping mid-September.
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Quite a few retailers have blown the street date as October 8th (iirc, or maybe the 9th?) so if that's the case we should be seeing reviews and board orders real soon.
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Why you guys so thirsty?
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Because I have a 2500k that can no longer overclock as well as it once did and a motherboard with dead audio!!
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Some idiot dropped my PC while moving and I can't convince myself to buy another 8700k with it being so close to 9700. It's me, I'm the idiot
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Hold The Ashes posted:Some idiot dropped my PC while moving and I can't convince myself to buy another 8700k with it being so close to 9700. I think I fried a motherboard with an i5-35xx. Great opportunity to buy up into the modern era of computing. But I had 20GB of DDR 3 ram, and it's really nice having that much ram... So I just bought an off-lease Dell i5-4570 comouter for $150. The fact that it cost less than buying the RAM alone made it an easy choice. I'm mostly just trying to hold out for RAM prices to crash again before upgrading.
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Hold The Ashes posted:Some idiot dropped my PC while moving and I can't convince myself to buy another 8700k with it being so close to 9700.
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Winks posted:Because I have a 2500k that can no longer overclock as well as it once did and a motherboard with dead audio!! Sounds like a dying motherboard! I guess they're even more expensive now?
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LRADIKAL posted:Sounds like a dying motherboard! I guess they're even more expensive now? Any surviving SB/IB Z-boards are uber expensive now as their production has been discontinued since 2013, almost all will be out of warranty by 2016 and there will always be people with more money than sense propping up dying old rigs.
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my open-box X99 motherboard only worked 2 years and I need a replacement, hope it didn't blow the processor or the RAM (probably OK tho) $100 EVGA X99 FTWs is pretty rad and I ordered a couple spare boards for encoding stuff, but the 9900K is the obvious win for single-thread-leaning gaming (which is more gaming than people will admit).
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TPU is claiming there's a Z399 and X599 in the pipe for Intel's next HEDT offerings. Z399 running a 20/22 core chip, with X599 running really stupidly expensive chips. Honestly, if I were Intel, I'd offer a 20 core chip with no hyperthreading as the "just eat more chicken and ramen for a while" option, since you'd really be hard-pressed to find something that would saturate 20 cores in the foreseeable future. At this point, though - I think Intel just wants to lock down as many *99s as they can before AMD uses them.
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god damnit AMD, look what youve started https://videocardz.com/newz/intels-9th-gen-core-i9-packaging-teased (also this is probably fake? i hope?)
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Cygni posted:god damnit AMD, look what youve started D12 boxing?
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I'll take the $100 discount to not have the crazy box. AMD Threadripper crew was mad when I said the same thing.
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Dodecahedron packaging a 12 thread product owns, gently caress the haters.
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K8.0 posted:Dodecahedron packaging a 12 thread product owns, gently caress the haters. i have bad news or... good? i guess?
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wargames posted:D12 boxing? These chicks don't even know the shape of my brand.
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Rexxed posted:I'll take the $100 discount to not have the crazy box. AMD Threadripper crew was mad when I said the same thing.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:TPU is claiming there's a Z399 and X599 in the pipe for Intel's next HEDT offerings. Z399 running a 20/22 core chip, with X599 running really stupidly expensive chips. Coffee Lake-X when?
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Oct 1, 2018 17:36
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Combat Pretzel posted:I got a Threadripper recently, and the box made me mad. Obnoxious as hell to unwrap. It seemed like it would be a lot of trash from it. If packaging isn’t easy to break down and recycle I get annoyed now because the trash only gets picked up once every 2 weeks whereas the recycling is weekly here. Plain brown boxes with recyclable plastic inserts is all we need god dammit.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Coffee Lake-X when? Gonna be called Cascade Lake and the rumors were initially by end of year, but probably going to be impacted by the 14nm shortage cause the dies are huge.
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Cygni posted:Gonna be called Cascade Lake and the rumors were initially by end of year, but probably going to be impacted by the 14nm shortage cause the dies are huge. I thought Cascade Lake was going to be another mesh chip?
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Paul MaudDib posted:I thought Cascade Lake was going to be another mesh chip? yeah it is, just like Skylake X/SP. i dont think intel is gonna go back to ring for HEDT, but who knows.
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Cygni posted:yeah it is, just like Skylake X/SP. i dont think intel is gonna go back to ring for HEDT, but who knows. I just want them to go back to re-socketing client chips onto the HEDT platform for the extra clock speed. If Coffee Lake-X hit the same +200 over the client platform that Kaby Lake-X did, that should put golden sample chips up near 5.5 GHz.
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oh my bad, i didnt think you were talkin about a KLX situation i wonder how cheap those things are gonna get in a few years, especially the i5
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an actual dog posted:ＰＬＥＡＳＥ, 
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Rexxed posted:I'll take the $100 discount to not have the crazy box. AMD Threadripper crew was mad when I said the same thing. I love this post because that's not how pricing works
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an actual dog posted:I love this post because that's not how pricing works You got me, slugger. But I'm on to you, actual dogs can't type.
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Rexxed posted:You got me, slugger. But I'm on to you, actual dogs can't type.  Unless you admit it!!!
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More problems with ME: http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2018/10/intel-me-manufacturing-mode-macbook.html Macs had left the CPU in "Manufacturing Mode" which made bad things possible: quote:By exploiting CVE-2018-4251, an attacker could write old versions of Intel ME (such as versions containing vulnerability INTEL-SA-00086) to memory without needing an SPI programmer or access to the HDA_SDO bridge—in other words, without physical access to the computer. Thus, a local vector is possible for exploitation of INTEL-SA-00086, which enables running arbitrary code in ME. It's also weird that Intel either didn't realize that it could be a vector for exploiting the previous vulnerability or is so reluctant to discuss the details of ME that it intentionally omitted it from the bulletin and claimed the vulnerability required physical access. mystes fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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Well gently caress me, I didn't realize we were potentially this close to 9th gen now. I was looking to get a refurbished Ivy-Haswell system for VR stuff but at this point I might as well just bite the bullet and get the first new computer since the C2Q-Q6600. C'mon, spill the beans intel.
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