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Mr. Maltose posted:It’s amazing that people continue to insist that this is a matter of like, personal taste and not protesting the enabling of provable material harm but you be you I guess. It’s more about the bullying hysterics in this thread prosecuting anyone and everyone based on group association accusations and not treating individuals as such. Mearls might be a piece of poo poo, socially, but I’ve never seen it. I don’t think he’s a great writer, nor do I think he’s good with his class development stuff in the stream highlights I’ve watched, but the dude has a pride flag on his twitter avatar. I don’t think he’s a serial abuser of minorities, as he’s being accused of here. I’m sure a few of you have lovely people you’ve had to deal with at work or family before. I wouldn’t accuse Arivia of being a facilitator of abusers because her coworker has a MAGA hat or a coworker she’s assigned to a project with thinks Kavanaugh needs to be seated. If you don’t like Zack S, then don’t like or support Zack S. Don’t paint everyone who’s ever had words with the guy with the same brush. People are allowed to be different and have different opinions and should be judged individually as such. The Critical Role people are woke as gently caress. It’s almost *too* representative in that poo poo comes up constantly in their game. It’d be a real hard sell to me to think that those folks were nazi sympathizers because they’re 2 degrees separated from a Nazi, but friends with the person who is.
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koreban posted:The Critical Role people are woke as gently caress. It’s almost *too* representative in that poo poo comes up constantly in their game. What do you mean by "too" representative?
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You can use them in conjunction. The spell smites are concentration spells that last for a minute or until you hit something, divine smite is a choice you can make upon hitting. You cast branding smite, then hit something, and expend a second spell slot to deal weapon damage + 2d6 radiant from divine smite + 2d6 radiant from branding smite. Having more damage instead of bless or shield of faith is a choice you make, whether you wanna really fuckin kill a thing or have a ;arger support role. Panderfringe fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Pollyanna posted:What do you mean by "too" representative? I could flip a coin when a new NPC is introduced as to whether Mercer will assign an adjective to them that would be considered to be reflective of minority lgbtq-distinctive traits and it’d be pretty on point. For groups that represent ~10-15% of the population, they’re well represented in his games. To directly address your insinuation: I don’t have any problem with it, but I can also see that they’re making a concerted effort to promote inclusivity and representation, overtly, in their game, to the point that it’s becoming obvious. To pre-empt accusations: my D&D group has a very empowered feminist, a lesbian couple, a MTF trans woman, an out-to-his-friends but closeted gay man, and three straight white men.
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MonsterEnvy posted:True enough. But I am fairly lacking in some common sense. It's just an issue I have. e: You do it with things not to do with "D&D bad" posts too. You're the Fox News of RPGs Splicer fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Sep 30, 2018 21:37
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koreban posted:It’s more about the bullying hysterics in this thread prosecuting anyone and everyone based on group association accusations and not treating individuals as such.
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Sep 30, 2018 21:54
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Splicer posted:...if you can't understand why this makes you not just annoying, but an actively harmful human being You are using actively incorrectly, and this is a big part of this group persecution bullshit that you and Arivia are participating in. People that don’t take an active role in joining your crusade are not actively harmful human beings. You need to worry a lot more about people that are your actively participative opponents than the ones in the middle that are sympathetic to the greater goal, but aren’t all about joining the fringe left in rewriting the social contract.
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Sep 30, 2018 21:56
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Splicer posted:I know it's fun to point out your flaws as if that means they don't matter any more, but seriously, this is what pisses people off so much about you. Someone says something bad about D&D or the developers, you assume that because you don't want it to be true it must not be true, than you post your gut feelings as facts. And if you can't understand why this makes you not just annoying, but an actively harmful human being, just... gently caress. I don't know. I try not to do that. But it's just how I am. I am a flawed human with too much free time, and brain issues. I am try to improve myself and be helpful, largely just because I want every one to get along. I am sorry I make mistakes and offend people. I am not trying to, I want to be reliable and help.
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Is Curse of Strahd just brutally hard module? Our newbie GM decided to run this. First we encountered 5 Wargs who almost wiped us out. After a short rest we got waylaid by a random encounter of 13 of wolves who TPK:d us. Didn't see much of the Barovia. One gate, long road, misty forest and wolves.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:07
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MonsterEnvy posted:I try not to do that. But it's just how I am. I am a flawed human with too much free time, and brain issues. I am try to improve myself and be helpful, largely just because I want every one to get along. I am sorry I make mistakes and offend people. I am not trying to, I want to be reliable and help. "I know it's bad but it's not my fault, I'm trying not to and really I'm just an all round nice guy but sadly I have flaws that are also not my fault" while repeating the exact same behaviour for years. Not exactly an uncommon pattern. You can easily fix it, you just have to want to fix it more than you want "everyone involved in D&D is a good person" to be true. Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Sep 30, 2018 22:07
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adhuin posted:Is Curse of Strahd just brutally hard module? I've heard it's difficult, although think that's tied to the Milestone leveling system and the open ended-ness of the module. Also not wanting to sound like a dick, but your new DM probably underestimated the encounters they threw at you. I'm saying this having never played CoS, just through talking to someone who ran it. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Sep 30, 2018 22:11
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adhuin posted:Is Curse of Strahd just brutally hard module? I've never played it but I've seen similar stories. Certain encounters and locations are apparently very hard for some party compositions/smaller groups.
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koreban posted:You are using actively incorrectly, and this is a big part of this group persecution bullshit that you and Arivia are participating in. Also lol at you considering this "fringe left". MonsterEnvy posted:I try not to do that. But it's just how I am. I am a flawed human with too much free time, and brain issues. I am try to improve myself and be helpful, largely just because I want every one to get along. I am sorry I make mistakes and offend people. I am not trying to, I want to be reliable and help. Then try to prove it's true. Then try really really really to prove it's not true. Then, and only then, can you say that it's definitely true. If you don't want to do all that, and it's about something unimportant like "Can a Wizard use his own beard as a spell focus?", post it anyway but say "I'm not sure but I think...". If it's about something important and you don't want to do all that, don't post at all and let people who know what they're talking about carry the conversation. Also apply all this advice to real life because it's just good advice. Nobody tries to make mistakes. Making mistakes is how we learn. The problem is you have 47 pages of posts in this thread alone and everything you've posted today makes it obvious you've learned nothing about not making mistakes because you're still doing exactly the same things.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:21
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Can somone help me out here? I don't see how picking fights in a thread with maybe a couple dozen regular users is going to protect/hurt victims of abuse?
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Sep 30, 2018 22:24
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OmanyteJackson posted:Can somone help me out here? I don't see how picking fights in a thread with maybe a couple dozen regular users is going to protect/hurt victims of abuse? I imagine it's in the hope of changing the way people talk about the topics so that it'll come through in conversations with other people. Also, I'm not sure, but telling marginalized people to stop talking about ways in which they're mistreated or marginalized seems not great. Obviously, if it gets out of hand, you can tell them that there might be better places to discuss it, but if someone says something lovely, then it doesn't seem incorrect to point it out right then and there.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:28
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Not to mention none of you telling him this poo poo follows the same patterns. You don't scrutinize your posts and have a good long think about it before hitting the Submit Reply button. If you did you wouldn't come off as rude, sometimes cruel, and openly hostile.Poops Mcgoots posted:I imagine it's in the hope of changing the way people talk about the topics so that it'll come through in conversations with other people. Also, I'm not sure, but telling marginalized people to stop talking about ways in which they're mistreated or marginalized seems not great. There is a big difference between calling someone out properly, and screeching "gently caress YOU!" at them.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:30
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I’m sorry for not being a model enough minority, I will police my tone more carefully in the future.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:36
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AlphaDog posted:"I know it's bad but it's not my fault, I'm trying not to and really I'm just an all round nice guy but sadly I have flaws that are also not my fault" while repeating the same behaviour for years. I never once said it's not my fault. IT IS. My issues are a part of me. I am trying to improve is just what I am saying. And I am sorry for my mistakes, it's hard for me to help them. I am not trying to manipulate people.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:36
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Arthil posted:There is a big difference between calling someone out properly, and screeching "gently caress YOU!" at them. I mean, yeah, but I was also responding to a specific question. I also haven't been following the thread long, but the impression I'm getting is that this is just the tail end of the "guy with an old shopping list in a chess tournament" quote.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:40
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Also we have an actual topic related to the thread now, could we talk about that guys question instead of me and fights about stuff related to that.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:42
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MonsterEnvy posted:I am not trying to manipulate people. You posted this: MonsterEnvy posted:From checking. Satine just likes D&D, and has been doing D&D series on various things for 8 years or so. And has been involved with various RPG sites and groups. She eventually struck up friendships with Jeremy Crawford and Chris Lindsay most notably from the D&D team. And due to her wide interest and heavy involvement in the D&D streaming community, got the job as the community manager. Various people quoted you, and called you out on exactly how easy that one part of it was to find. You then removed that line, and at the same time, posted MonsterEnvy posted:I was not watching videos. Plus I was looking into her relationships period, was not looking up her and Zak S. Then you proceeded to talk about how you didn't really care anyway. You are exactly trying to manipulate people, you're just fuckawful at it.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:47
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adhuin posted:Is Curse of Strahd just brutally hard module? I think you just got really really unlucky. Also your DM put Wargs in a module that does not have any from my memory. I just ran though this with a group, and random encountered were rare, but you are supposed to check every 6 Hexes. (As it should take 30 minutes to go through 6.)
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Splicer posted:What would be a good word then? I am attempting to convey "this causes actual, real harm". And no, I'm not saying that having bad opinions about RPGs causes actual, real harm, I'm saying that stating gut feelings as facts has a real bad impact on the public discourse. It's annoying when it's about RPG mechanics, it's harmful when it's about meaningful subjects. I’m saying that you’re hyperbolizing an issue in a fractionally minuscule niche community and trying to politicize it as if it’s the same as North Carolina passing HB1, which is actually harmful to an at-large community. The other is a shitbag with medieval opinions that were still considered mainstream 30 years ago being consulted and receiving contribution credits in a book released 4 years ago. The scope and sum of messaging from (1) the company, (2) the employees, and (3) the community have been unequivocal repudiations of said shitbag’s opinions in the last 4 years. However you and Arivia want to sit here and litigate this point as nauseum, to the detriment of every person and every slightly neutral-to-positive opinion posted in this thread, regardless of the fact that this forum has zero influence on Hasbro or WotC and you’re highly unlikely to find a person who actually reads this thread to be swayed or convinced of Zak S’ political opinions because of his association with 5e. quote:Also lol at you considering this "fringe left". This persecution based on group identity or associations bullshit is exactly fringe left. I’m not criticizing being opposed to anti-LGBTQ crusaders. I’m criticizing calling any person whose ever shaken hands with one of them a nazi sympathizer.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Also we have an actual topic related to the thread now, could we talk about that guys question instead of me and fights about stuff related to that. That you resets the countdown to the next time you open your stupid mouth.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:55
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AlphaDog posted:You posted this: Comes off to me like he didn't want to be lambasted by assholes like you, who enjoy picking peoples posts apart for the pieces they really wanna highlight instead of responding to it as a whole. Looks like he did look into it a bit, found they'd had no contact in quite a long while. But the problem is that apparently doesn't matter. She could have cut off ties to him, but that doesn't matter. Ever being associated with a scumbag, whether they knew he was a scumbag at the time or not, is apparently enough to label a person forever. But he chose to edit his post, because he wanted to avoid you and your buddies continuing to be hostile towards him. Though it seems that you'll do that no matter what, at this point. Leave the guy alone.
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Sep 30, 2018 22:56
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Can everyone please just put arivia and monster envy on ignore so I don't have to see a third of every page arguing with and admonishing them?
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So here is the character I am thinking about creating. I know its crazy BUT bare with me. First we take a varient human for two reasons... 1.) You get the skill animal Handle for free. This is extremely hard to get. You will say "not necessary" BUT I disagree. 2.) 1st level feet which has to be mounted combat. I know "there are better feats" but again bare with me. (Keep your cloths on) Next we apply the standard array and add our +1s 15 Chr 14 str 13 con 12 dex 10 wis 08 int +1 Chr and Con. Ok your still with me good. Now we pick class. Our class is Bard (progressing to Lore Bard) I know I know there are some of you screaming at the Screen now. I can hear you... "WTF BARD. YOU WENT BARD WHY BARD" I promise you it will make sense. Ok we pick weapons. There ia no better weapon than a Javalin. Yea thats right I said Javalin. Your lost... Good. Javalins can be range or melee. They work off of strength. You can replace them easily. I know its way out of your comfort zone. Next we pick spells. Vicious mockery and light are a must. The rest dont matter. Feather fall is a must, unseen servant is optional but ohh so this... So there is our start. Do you know where I am going... I doubt it... Next background... Take outlander. You will thank me. Athletics and survival... Finally skills... Preception, Stealth, and Proformance. Cause why not. So Level 2... Needs nothing. Get healing word. Level 3 you take lore. At this level you make it knowen you want the slippers of spider climb. Thats right slippers of spider climb. Its key so shut it. ... Oh and you are a LORE BARD... Thats key too... Ohh and skills. Don't matter too much but Nature should be one. Acrobatics is good. Expert in perception and Stealth obviously. Level 4 you should take a feat. Spear mastery or sharpshooter will work. Sharpshooter is better. Level 5 ehh its nothing. Get a ring of feather fall. 1.) Because it confuses the heck out of the DM. Thats the second "useless" magic Item you looked for. 2.) Because you have more spell slots. Level 6 you get two "free" spells. Fireball will be one cause why not... The other Summon Mount.... Yea mount. Why cause then you can summon a gient bird or a Pegasus. Something aerodynamic. Yea I went there a paladin spell that summons a flying mount. Flying Chucker of pointy tips... You NEVER saw it coming. A cool build that combines the wacky with the pratical. You show me a level 6 PC that has a flying mount which they can without magic items survive the fall?
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Sep 30, 2018 23:01
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AlphaDog posted:You posted this: I removed that line because It was wrong. And I think you misunderstood the context of the second line, I said "I was not looking up her and Zak S." Because I was just looking up her, I did not google search Satine and Zak S like the person who quoted me did. And that was what I meant by it. Cause I was clearly looking up Satine and was not trying to hide it. And I don't really care, I don't know Satine or Zak. This was not an attempt at manipulation.
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Sep 30, 2018 23:01
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koreban posted:I’m saying that you’re hyperbolizing an issue
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Sep 30, 2018 23:02
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Kaysette posted:whatever the gently caress this is Is this like a shitpost that I don't have the prerequisite skill to identify?
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In my first attempt at DM'ing 5E, I had a player with a flying elephant. Turns out flying elephants don't not mix well with encounter balancing.
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Arthil posted:Comes off to me like he didn't want to be lambasted by assholes like you, who enjoy picking peoples posts apart for the pieces they really wanna highlight instead of responding to it as a whole. Looks like he did look into it a bit, found they'd had no contact in quite a long while. But the problem is that apparently doesn't matter. She could have cut off ties to him, but that doesn't matter. Ever being associated with a scumbag, whether they knew he was a scumbag at the time or not, is apparently enough to label a person forever. But none of those things you just said are true????????? They pointed out that they've been working together as of 2017 and I know that Zak S was promoting her as of a few months ago. Which was his actual, main, summary point. That was his (? I don't actually know or care about MonsterEnvy's personal life) thesis statement. You're wrong. And they're not nit-picking to find points just for the sake of finding points, these are actual, substantial things that are a problem in the community (as well as the world at large, obviously), and doing bullshit tone-policing is incredibly lovely. And they're not shutting down mechanical conversations, or discussions about modules or anything else. They're just actually engaging with the material in a critical way instead of just going "lol it's elfgames whatever". None of this post is correct and your argument is just an old man shouting at fairies. Sometimes it's nice and helpful to think about things. Also, MonsterEnvy, you really, really need to think about the concept of intellectual dishonesty and why everyone wants you to shut the gently caress up.
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mango sentinel posted:Can everyone please just put arivia and monster envy on ignore so I don't have to see a third of every page arguing with and admonishing them? If it makes you feel better do this. I am going to try and not engage with Arvia and Alphadog as well which should help. Arthil posted:Comes off to me like he didn't want to be lambasted by assholes like you, who enjoy picking peoples posts apart for the pieces they really wanna highlight instead of responding to it as a whole. Looks like he did look into it a bit, found they'd had no contact in quite a long while. But the problem is that apparently doesn't matter. She could have cut off ties to him, but that doesn't matter. Ever being associated with a scumbag, whether they knew he was a scumbag at the time or not, is apparently enough to label a person forever.
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Malpais Legate posted:Is this like a shitpost that I don't have the prerequisite skill to identify? Kaysette posted:You show me a level 6 PC that has a flying mount which they can without magic items survive the fall?
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AlphaDog has repeatedly been one of the most patient, honest, thoughtful posters in this thread, who will engage in full honesty with anyone, and has clearly over years demonstrated that they love D&D and just wanna talk it out without dealing with horse-poo poo. The idea of having them on ignore is just absurd. They're one of the best posters in the thread, if not TG. Arivia... I dislike her constant poo poo-stirring in general, but she's more often than not right in this thread so I'm just gonna shrug.
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Malpais Legate posted:Is this like a shitpost that I don't have the prerequisite skill to identify? Yes. Splicer posted:SCAG Variant Tiefling or Dragonborn with the Xanathars wings feat. t r a p s p r u n g
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Kaysette posted:Yes. Oh thank god I thought I might have been having a stroke.
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Kaysette posted:So here is the character I am thinking about creating. I know its crazy BUT bare with me. This is cruel to post in this thread. Some people are legitimately, you know...
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Xiahou Dun posted:But none of those things you just said are true????????? Fair enough man, I wasn't the one bothering to research any of it. Because I couldn't care less. What I care about is when it's incredibly clear that people are bullying someone while claiming to be doing something good. Maybe I'd care a little more if the people that like to churn all this up every time they feel like ganging up on him contributed something more than that. Reading this thread for a while, it's been closer to 90% hate on MonsterEnvy, 10% actual advice/talking about the game.
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