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Intel spends more on R&D in a quarter than AMD's revenue as an entire company last year. I wouldn't write them off cause Larrabee got lost in internal politics a decade ago. Frankly, an expanded AMD/Intel partnership on the GPU side would not surprise me at all.
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Didn't Apple have to cripple the Intel modem in software because it's enough faster than the Qualcomm version that Apple thought people would notice/start returning units to get an Intel model?
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that sounds like an incredibly apple thing to do, yes
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Sep 30, 2018 23:22
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Paul MaudDib posted:Didn't Apple have to cripple the Intel modem in software because it's enough faster than the Qualcomm version that Apple thought people would notice/start returning units to get an Intel model? lol gross
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Oct 1, 2018 00:16
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Paul MaudDib posted:Didn't Apple have to cripple the Intel modem in software because it's enough faster than the Qualcomm version that Apple thought people would notice/start returning units to get an Intel model? I thought it was the opposite because qualcomm's chips are faster (and that's what the trade secret lawsuit is about, apple passing qualcomm's sekratz to intel)
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Paul MaudDib posted:Didn't Apple have to cripple the Intel modem in software because it's enough faster than the Qualcomm version that Apple thought people would notice/start returning units to get an Intel model? Think that's backwards. They turned off 4x4 MIMO for Qualcomm modems on the X. efb
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxz5Tc-YRs The most comprehensive tariff info as it relates to us ive seen so far (gamers nexus)
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Oct 1, 2018 02:33
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Deviant posted:where the gently caress is my 2080ti nvidia Same but EVGA.
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Oct 1, 2018 03:18
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1gnoirents posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxz5Tc-YRs Sorry if this is lousy, hope it helps. quote:will affect all computer parts and components p much
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trump has finally gone too far
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nah dude im sure itll work
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Oct 1, 2018 05:18
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LRADIKAL posted:china "now has some of the best facilities for manufacturing the products you buy, on the planet. includes motherboards video cards. China's manufacturing efficiency is already to the point where you can use literal slave labor in some other X country and still have trouble competing with them. Not that the average MAGAer will understand though
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Oct 1, 2018 06:44
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Chinese companies finding excuses to raise prices of goods? Never heard that one before.
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Liberal: Abloo I will have to dip into my $900/month latte budget to afford a new CPU Conservative: Now is my chance to achieve financial independence by opening my own fab Scalding Coffee posted:Chinese companies finding excuses to raise prices of goods? Never heard that one before. Devious Oriental: Now is my chance to raise prices and blame it on the orange devil. ItBurns fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Oct 1, 2018 |
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1gnoirents posted:nah dude im sure itll work it's a great button and it definitely works reports of it resembling a cartoon character are entirely unconfirmed at this time ItBurns posted:Liberal: Abloo I will have to dip into my $900/month latte budget to afford a new CPU all I need is 10 years and 5 billionty dollars and the world will be mine! after the 2028-2030 wafer throughput expansion plan! *pointer slaps overhead-projector whitescreen, cackles ominously to group of concerned-looking Saudi magnates* Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Oct 1, 2018 |
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Scalding Coffee posted:Chinese companies finding excuses to raise prices of goods? Never heard that one before. Any computer hardware maker would have to raise prices to make anything at all under these stupid tariffs. It's hardly an excuse when the choice is passing costs onto consumers or shutting down your company.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Any computer hardware maker would have to raise prices to make anything at all under these stupid tariffs. It's hardly an excuse when the choice is passing costs onto consumers or shutting down your company. Prebuilts *might* be exempt, but don't quote me on that
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For a while now it's actually been cheaper to buy graphics cards on Amazon US + shipping to certain parts of China than buying local retail. Which is pretty lol because a bunch of people in China who knew about this are having a buying lane orange-coned. Like me *sob*
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If this keeps up, I'm thinking geeks start making trips out of Taipei for hardware-buying vacations, take an extra suitcase, and buy everything EXCEPT a case.
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Oct 1, 2018 12:52
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SwissArmyDruid posted:If this keeps up, I'm thinking geeks start making trips out of Taipei for hardware-buying vacations, take an extra suitcase, and buy everything EXCEPT a case.
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Oct 1, 2018 12:59
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SwissArmyDruid posted:If this keeps up, I'm thinking geeks start making trips out of Taipei for hardware-buying vacations, take an extra suitcase, and buy everything EXCEPT a case. Any other country is still going to use the best economic excuse ever to raise prices even if they aren't directly affected by tariffs. The tariffs are so stupid because anybody who has like 2 brain cells and lived under capitalism can see this coming from a mile away.
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Palladium posted:Any other country is still going to use the best economic excuse ever to raise prices even if they aren't directly affected by tariffs. The tariffs are so stupid because anybody who has like 2 brain cells and lived under capitalism can see this coming from a mile away. Yeah, you're probably right. GPU prices are probably going to go up worldwide in an effort to spread the pain around.
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Ever since I replaced my 1070 with a 2080 FE I am experiencing frequent crash to desktop in pretty much every game. It seem to happen randomly every 40min or so except in tomb raider when it's just after a death. I reinstalled the driver after running display driver uninstaller but it doesn't change anything. Could this sort of issue be due to driver maturity or is it more likely a hardware problem?
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Krogort posted:Ever since I replaced my 1070 with a 2080 FE I am experiencing frequent crash to desktop in pretty much every game. How old is your PSU? Wattage? Rating?
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Any computer hardware maker would have to raise prices to make anything at all under these stupid tariffs. It's hardly an excuse when the choice is passing costs onto consumers or shutting down your company. Ironically the end result of all this tariff keep-production-at-home poo poo is no different from if you just taxed everyone a few percent more and gave out of work industrial workers more welfare. Everyone in the states + it's major trade partners now suffers for the sake of job creation in that country. Ugh.
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I'm waiting for Fauxtools take on the tariff's, wonder where they disappeared to.
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VelociBacon posted:Ironically the end result of all this tariff keep-production-at-home poo poo is no different from if you just taxed everyone a few percent more and gave out of work industrial workers more welfare. Everyone in the states + it's major trade partners now suffers for the sake of job creation in that country. Ugh. I’m no MAGAer, but how else do we combat slave labor industry at China’s scale than employing tariffs? Sitting around jerking off to “the free market” while Foxconn employees commit suicide and are replaced by children seems the worst of the two options to me.
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Siets posted:I’m no MAGAer, but how else do we combat slave labor industry at China’s scale than employing tariffs? Sitting around jerking off to “the free market” while Foxconn employees commit suicide and are replaced by children seems the worst of the two options to me. I like how we can describe Chinese as slave labor while saying their wages are getting too expensive at the same time without any hint of irony And AFAIK Foxconn doing their darnest to get rid of so called slave labor with automation by power of the *~.free market.~*
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AEMINAL posted:How old is your PSU? Wattage? Rating? It's a seasonic focus plus 650w gold, less than a year old. It should be enough.
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What is this thread's opinion of KFA2, more specifically their RTX 2080? They're retailing for 800EUR at the moment, considerably cheaper than the other brands. I know that in Pascal, KFA2 used cheaper memory which made them less popular with crypto miners but I have never had a card of theirs. So are they garbage or what? Also let me throw in Palit and Zotac. I don't wanna overclock, but I want a reliable card that doesn't sound like a jet turbine. Lord Stimperor fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Oct 1, 2018 |
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Lord Stimperor posted:What is this thread's opinion of KFA2, more specifically their RTX 2080? KFA2 is the European branch of GALAX, but I know Palit doesn't make crap (despite it being a Chinese brand). Zotac's initial run should be more or less a copy of the reference design, but they're notorious for cutting corners wherever and whenever they can, and at least in the US, their service takes forever since you have to slow-boat your card to Taiwan when RMAing it. I'd go with Palit given those three choices. I'll defer to the Euros in the thread since the only brand I can speak reliably about is Zotac.
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I have a zotac GTX 1060. It was cheap and works well  I know they're known for being loud and that one isn't too bad tbh. This is coming from somebody that spent entirely too many hundreds of dollars making a silent air cooled computer (different system) out of boredom
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Siets posted:I’m no MAGAer, but how else do we combat slave labor industry at China’s scale than employing tariffs? Sitting around jerking off to “the free market” while Foxconn employees commit suicide and are replaced by children seems the worst of the two options to me. You find someone more competent to make bold changes is how. The tariffs have been and always outwardly stated as being bluffs and punishment, they have no actual value to us because they are blanket tariffs with fixed percentages. Any actual real tariff that is designed to promote domestic industry has a percentage that is unique to the market to balance import and domestic viability. If you put a "10% on everything" encompassing tens of thousands of products with a built in "well if u dont fix it then its gonna go to 25%!!!!!!" with a list of demands that sound like a bank robbers delusion then its not a tariff. Its just a tax that will hurt American companies. If you notice there is zero talk of moving factories to America due to tariffs. There is no supply chain here, which means that one factory you want to make your shiny whatever needs 15 other factories to support to even be remotely competitive even with a huge tariff advantage. Steve touched on this for GPUs but its true for almost everything. It makes no sense to ship over $0.0001 fasteners and $0.87 capacitors (and on and on and on) just to assemble them here. "Ideally" we'd want to make all that stuff but youre talking about ... well a lot of factories from a lot of different companies. So its not even a painful step in the right direction, its just damaging. And considering the massive loss in revenue year to year due to the 20% drop in corporate tax and the, for some reason, massive ballooning deficit at the same time, dont expect these tariffs to go away. Money has got to come from somewhere... Im sorry for getting into it but it literally affects this thread directly - today. edit: If you want to see an example of higher effort and targeted efforts, check out today's new NAFTA. I'm not saying whether or not anybody should agree with it (or any of this) specifically but objectively speaking that has specific rules that aim for a certain outcome per industry. It has, at least, a tangible goal for each category. This is typically how trade rules look when you want to shake up the market successfully. 1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Oct 1, 2018 |
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Isn't the whole part of the Tariffs not to just bring jobs back from China, but to get China to work with us on our own form of NAFTA? This is literally the first Tariff that has gone from a saber rattle to actually going into affect so far, and right now China is doing plenty of other scummy crap that makes me wish there was some other way to put pressure on them. But we went and made literally everything rely on something being made there and sort of painted our market into its own corner. I'm interested to see how things do play out because it's not going to be a permanent thing.
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Finally got my EVGA 2080TI shipped. I currently have a 780 and my current psu is 550W. Got two platter drives and two ssds hooked up, no component is overclocked. Safe to just switch it in? I've got a 850w PSU that I just bought but saving that for my build once the new Intel chips come out.
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EdEddnEddy posted:Isn't the whole part of the Tariffs not to just bring jobs back from China, but to get China to work with us on our own form of NAFTA? Yes, though it depends on China not responding in kind. EdEddnEddy posted:This is literally the first Tariff that has gone from a saber rattle to actually going into affect so far, and right now China is doing plenty of other scummy crap that makes me wish there was some other way to put pressure on them. But we went and made literally everything rely on something being made there and sort of painted our market into its own corner. Its at the very least the second round. Farmers would like to have a word, as would steel and aluminum. But yes China is getting big, they are one party and have total economic control, and now they make everything. This is a problem for the USA. EdEddnEddy posted:I'm interested to see how things do play out because it's not going to be a permanent thing. Yes it is , and I agree it will not be permanent. Where and when it exactly is no longer permanent under which circumstances will certainly be the interesting part and as of now it seems like anything could happen. But dont forget about complacence. People have short memories, even shorter if its political, and we could slip into acceptance since things wont be labeled "$400 + sales tax + tariff =". And again there is a significant revenue problem going on and this is hard (short term) currency for the government no matter how you slice it. And guess which country we are in massive financial debt to already unpurposed posted:Finally got my EVGA 2080TI shipped. I currently have a 780 and my current psu is 550W. Got two platter drives and two ssds hooked up, no component is overclocked. Safe to just switch it in?  RARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG550 watt should cover it outside of a few standout high wattage CPUs out there. I'll be running a 2080ti on 500 watts
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EdEddnEddy posted:
Lol Things are never going back to the sweet deals going on these past few years, Component prices are not going to drop to these levels again in your lifetime, and China is not going to lose face to loving Dolan Tront, the laughingstock of the UN, and other than nuclear warfare there’s nothing America can do to force China’s hand without shooting itself in the foot Next year we get a 1500USD iPhone So yeah, things are cool
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I waited about ten years to upgrade my PC hoping for Intel to get off tick-tock, and for RAM and GPU prices to drop, let me be the one to tell you that waiting out bad pricing and incremental improvement isn’t what it’s cracked up to be.
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