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CerealKilla420
Jan 3, 2014

"I need a handle man..."

Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:

Two BOss pedals- RV-6 reverb and NS-2 noise suppressor (wasn’t planning on the second one but it was on sale for $40). I’ve been following some ambient/shoegaze-y guys on instagram, they’ve been doing some really interesting stuff with cassettes and reverb, slowing things way down - not sure if that’s the route I want to go exactly, but leaning towards a setup for minimalist/ambient stuff.

For reference to some of the sound I’m trying to explore, the Instagram guys I’ve been checking out are preampband, blankfor.ms, hainbach101, rednaw.wonder, and shoegazecity.

Anyone else mess around with weird pedal based setups, or use cassettes in their mixes? I’m still trying to figure it out but I’m curious.

I really like the Vapor Trail delay pedal for that exact sound. Usually I'll just turn the spring reverb on my twin reverb way the gently caress up, chain they delay, wah, my BD-2, and my Big Muff up to it and click the BD2 on during solo/lead bits. I really like the milky "daze-y" sound.

Here's a really crappy song I made a few years ago as an example. I used the vapor-trail for the delay on the rhythm bit and the big muff and the vapor trail for the lead.

https://soundcloud.com/dolphinblunts/not-porn

byob historian posted:

i aint yet but drat it look like itd be fun to take out with the ol 6U

Yeah it really does...

I'm going to wait a week before pulling the trigger because I really don't want to impulse buy this thing.

If anyone gets one/has one please give a trip report.

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hug a mexican
Jul 8, 2010

A MIRACLE posted:

Should I get the digital space echo pedal

yes

and then get pissed off it doesn't handle line too well and get the strymon tape thing instead

it is a journey

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




just follow this account all they do is rig different pedals to current cheap synths and make everything sound amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSP4RSdWnMs

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002
Trip report: the Rev 2 is everything I'd hoped for, between the 3 envelopes, 4 LFOs, and 8 mod matrix slots, it's a modulation monster that can drat near do anything my eurorack setup can, except with 16 fuckin voices of polyphony.The first patch I made from scratch was this huge, thick organ-like lead that becomes unusably thick if you turn on unison at all, even if it's just 2-voice unison, and at 16 voice unison with a bit of detune, it's just a dense, thick wall that you can't even hack through with a machete.

The second patch I made from scratch is just an insane modulationfest, doing things like using one LFO to modulate the waveshape of one osc on sawtooth, then using a second LFO to modulate the first LFO's rate, resulting in chaos like this:
https://soundcloud.com/user-984973587/spacewarz/s-xzzXV

That's the result of turning on the arp and setting it to latch, hitting a chord, and then just recording the output.
It's one thing to have a couple LFOs, it's another to have 64 free-running, non-synced LFOs spread over 16 voices. It's ridiculous and I love it.

One other thing, it takes a looooooong time to run the calibration routine when you've got that many voices:

I remember self-calibration taking like 20 secs tops on my old Matrix-6 (only other synth I've owned that had a self-calibration routine); this thing takes a minute or two, since it calibrates each individual osc (32 total) over 10 octaves each, plus the 16 filters.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

Rev 2 of what? Sorry I'm just not sure what you're talking about but it sounds cool.

Sweet_Joke_Nectar
Jun 7, 2007

i'm a little shai :3
Ok, just pulled the trigger on a Tascam 414 mkii, time to get weird droney tape stuff.

....anyone, uh, know some tutorials for that EDIT: google sure does

Sweet_Joke_Nectar fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Oct 1, 2018

MrSargent
Dec 23, 2003

Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's Jimmy T.

toadee posted:

Rev 2 of what? Sorry I'm just not sure what you're talking about but it sounds cool.

The Prophet Rev 2 I assume. Commonly referred to as a Rev2 for short.

rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:

Ok, just pulled the trigger on a Tascam 414 mkii, time to get weird droney tape stuff.

....anyone, uh, know some tutorials for that EDIT: google sure does

There’s some videos on the youtubes where Alessandro Cortini talks about how he uses his in NIN’s live setup.

Sweet_Joke_Nectar
Jun 7, 2007

i'm a little shai :3

rickiep00h posted:

There’s some videos on the youtubes where Alessandro Cortini talks about how he uses his in NIN’s live setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdbgEHsPkes found it, love it, thanks!

This is the type of stuff I've been really curious about :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBTZ_qJvVpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1NgVe9kJtA

crimedog
Apr 1, 2008

Yo, dog.
You dead, dog.
https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/first-look-moog-one/

:10bux: Moog Analog Poly :10bux:

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever
Bring money

CerealKilla420
Jan 3, 2014

"I need a handle man..."

Startyde posted:

Bring money

"No low ballers I know what I got" - Bob (from the grave) Moog 2018

MrSargent
Dec 23, 2003

Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's Jimmy T.

64bit_Dophins posted:

"No low ballers I know what I got" - Bob (from the grave) Moog 2018

I laughed at this. Eight THOUSAND dollars lol.

(Still want one)

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

MrSargent posted:

The Prophet Rev 2 I assume. Commonly referred to as a Rev2 for short.

This. And speaking of,


8/16 voice versions, 4 LFOs, 3 EGs, plus onboard FX.... it’s like they looked through the Rev 2’s spec sheet and said “well, we have to have at least this much in order to be a real competitor”. Though the pricing is just as laughable as the rest of Moog’s modern pricing.

Say what you will about how good/bad the sound of Dave Smith’s modern synths are, he’s still the only other synth maker as influential as Bob Moog was, and still setting trends for other manufacturers to follow, including, apparently, Moog themselves now.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

HotCanadianChick posted:

Say what you will about how good/bad the sound of Dave Smith’s modern synths are, he’s still the only other synth maker as influential as Bob Moog was, and still setting trends for other manufacturers to follow, including, apparently, Moog themselves now.

Typical East Coast synthesis bias.

Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture
If anyone is still wondering about the OP-Z's capabilities, but doesn't want to watch the usual Youtube suspects, Bruno Kramm* (of Das Ich) has been posting jams and comprehensive tutorials. https://www.youtube.com/user/delest1310/videos


*

CerealKilla420
Jan 3, 2014

"I need a handle man..."

MrSargent posted:

I laughed at this. Eight THOUSAND dollars lol.

(Still want one)

The most expensive CAR I've ever bought cost me $5k, unless I win the lottery this one isn't in the cards.

The Grandmother on the other hand...

Wikipedia Brown posted:

If anyone is still wondering about the OP-Z's capabilities, but doesn't want to watch the usual Youtube suspects, Bruno Kramm* (of Das Ich) has been posting jams and comprehensive tutorials. https://www.youtube.com/user/delest1310/videos


*


I just watched a few of his videos and I'm still unclear on what the OP-Z is supposed to be as a product.

WorldWarWonderful
Jul 15, 2004
Eh?

Wikipedia Brown posted:

If anyone is still wondering about the OP-Z's capabilities, but doesn't want to watch the usual Youtube suspects, Bruno Kramm* (of Das Ich) has been posting jams and comprehensive tutorials. https://www.youtube.com/user/delest1310/videos


*


His videos more or less convinced me I'm slightly more sure I want one than I used to be.

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

64bit_Dophins posted:



I just watched a few of his videos and I'm still unclear on what the OP-Z is supposed to be as a product.

Same.

Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture
It's a Yamaha rm1x that can fit in your cargo shorts.

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Oldstench posted:

Typical East Coast synthesis bias.

The three people that use Buchla don't count, ok. :colbert:

Chainclaw
Feb 14, 2009

Wikipedia Brown posted:

If anyone is still wondering about the OP-Z's capabilities, but doesn't want to watch the usual Youtube suspects, Bruno Kramm* (of Das Ich) has been posting jams and comprehensive tutorials. https://www.youtube.com/user/delest1310/videos


*


Are there any demos of the OP-Z's Unity3D integration? I would love to see some more details on that part, I would really like to build an app that uses the OP-Z and some AR hardware like the Magic Leap, especially because they call out the VR stuff on the OP-Z landing page.

Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture

Chainclaw posted:

Are there any demos of the OP-Z's Unity3D integration? I would love to see some more details on that part, I would really like to build an app that uses the OP-Z and some AR hardware like the Magic Leap, especially because they call out the VR stuff on the OP-Z landing page.

You can catch glimpses of some of the scenes they've built if you scrub through the various trade show demos, but they've been pretty cagey about the tools for that stuff and what you'll be able to do with it.

rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


HotCanadianChick posted:

The three people that use Buchla don't count, ok. :colbert:

Hey if I could afford a Buchla, I'd 100% have one, but it would be sitting next to my vault of other rad gear I bought with my apparent lottery winnings.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
I've been traveling and haven't had time to dig into the new sampler features in Bitwig, but drat this looks like fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKBinM4tBMY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWFvXSbsbyM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzk6t-vemTc

Add in the fact that it's already MPE-ready and daaaang.

Trig Discipline fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Oct 2, 2018

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

holy poo poo

$6000 for the 8 voice and $8000 for the 16 voice for one loving synth

*looks at modular grid*

yeah that sounds ok to me

content
Feb 13, 2014

Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:

Ok, just pulled the trigger on a Tascam 414 mkii, time to get weird droney tape stuff.

....anyone, uh, know some tutorials for that EDIT: google sure does

Hell yes. I bought one of these at a pawn shop a few years ago, and it's been a fixture in my studio ever since.

Sweet_Joke_Nectar
Jun 7, 2007

i'm a little shai :3

content posted:

Hell yes. I bought one of these at a pawn shop a few years ago, and it's been a fixture in my studio ever since.

Oooo! Tell me the different ways you use it. I can tell it’s more versatile than some of the stuff I’ve been finding online, would love to hear from someone who has one.

content
Feb 13, 2014

Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:

Oooo! Tell me the different ways you use it. I can tell it’s more versatile than some of the stuff I’ve been finding online, would love to hear from someone who has one.

The NIN video tutorial thing someone mentioned is a really cool way. I use it in live sets to supplement a few different effects. I'll have an ambient track on one track 1 (of a tape), a high pitched single note on track 2, a lower harmonized note on track 3, and some weird (usually slowed down) drums on track 4. That way I can mix in different stuff in while I'm switching tracks or something on my MPC (e.g. beats to play an intro with my synth, ambient weirdness with some effects, or use the tape speed to play notes along with the MPC beat). I also use this, and another tape player to make super slowed down samples, because they sound really cool copied through tapes a few times (super broken and warbley). It's also just a great way to record music. I hate using computers, so I was recording a ton of music on mine before I switched over to my sampler.

Sweet_Joke_Nectar
Jun 7, 2007

i'm a little shai :3

content posted:

The NIN video tutorial thing someone mentioned is a really cool way. I use it in live sets to supplement a few different effects. I'll have an ambient track on one track 1 (of a tape), a high pitched single note on track 2, a lower harmonized note on track 3, and some weird (usually slowed down) drums on track 4. That way I can mix in different stuff in while I'm switching tracks or something on my MPC (e.g. beats to play an intro with my synth, ambient weirdness with some effects, or use the tape speed to play notes along with the MPC beat). I also use this, and another tape player to make super slowed down samples, because they sound really cool copied through tapes a few times (super broken and warbley). It's also just a great way to record music. I hate using computers, so I was recording a ton of music on mine before I switched over to my sampler.

Awesome, thanks for this. You ever do those tape loops, or the modified walkman stuff?

content
Feb 13, 2014

Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:

Awesome, thanks for this. You ever do those tape loops, or the modified walkman stuff?

No, but I’ve always wanted to! Every time I look at a tutorial it looks slightly too complicated to just do for a fun project. One of these days, though.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r87f_gQKlxo

Sweet_Joke_Nectar
Jun 7, 2007

i'm a little shai :3
Welp, don’t go on eBay when you’re sad. See you in a week, elektron digitakt.

All I need now is a synthesizer and I’ll never leave the house

CerealKilla420
Jan 3, 2014

"I need a handle man..."

Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:

Welp, don’t go on eBay when you’re sad. See you in a week, elektron digitakt.

All I need now is a synthesizer and I’ll never leave the house

Only $31/mo for 2 years! (for the Digikat)

I'm not going to lie I just cancelled all of my video subscriptions and I'm actually tempted to finance this to help build my credit (or at least that'll be my justification).

dj bobby bieber
Oct 9, 2003

the fanciest whale

Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:

Welp, don’t go on eBay when you’re sad. See you in a week, elektron digitakt.

All I need now is a synthesizer and I’ll never leave the house

Wat, I would have sold you mine :(

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

64bit_Dophins posted:

Only $31/mo for 2 years! (for the Digikat)

I'm not going to lie I just cancelled all of my video subscriptions and I'm actually tempted to finance this to help build my credit (or at least that'll be my justification).

Please don’t finance any GAS purchase for terms longer than, like, four months max. The exception is maybe if you’re a classically trained keyboardist and you know you’ll get good use out of a $4k Nord or something like that.

Especially if it’s a piece of gear that you aren’t familiar with or experienced using in your workflow. It’s easy to fall in love with an instrument by reading a ton of forum posts and watching YouTube videos or spending half an hour dicking around in a Guitar Center. And then you get it home and decide you’re getting 20% as much fun and utility out of it as you imagined or the workflow doesn’t make any sense to you.

The last thing you want to do is owe 10 months’ worth of payments on something that sits in a gig bag and collects dust or that you’d be happier flipping on Craigslist, even if the payments themselves are relatively small and you’ve got all the money set aside/could easily pay it off immediately.

If your income stream or financial responsibilities change suddenly, and you’re in a place where every dollar counts, having a couple hundred tied up in a piece of hobby kit becomes a real pain in the rear end at best and an additional source of stress at worst.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Anyone have any youtube recommendations for synth sound design tutorials that don't devolve into dubstep bullshit? I know synth sound design, but I like listening to people go through presets. A lot of the time, however, it's all about grungy, chopped up wobbles and stuff like that, and I'd love to hear some more stuff that's far away from that.

Dulcet tones. Not Skrillex electronic audio aneurysms. Anyone? Torley used to do Project Preset, but he hadn't touched that in a long time.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Anyone have any youtube recommendations for synth sound design tutorials that don't devolve into dubstep bullshit? I know synth sound design, but I like listening to people go through presets. A lot of the time, however, it's all about grungy, chopped up wobbles and stuff like that, and I'd love to hear some more stuff that's far away from that.

Dulcet tones. Not Skrillex electronic audio aneurysms. Anyone? Torley used to do Project Preset, but he hadn't touched that in a long time.

Woody?

Sweet_Joke_Nectar
Jun 7, 2007

i'm a little shai :3

dj bobby bieber posted:

Wat, I would have sold you mine :(

Guhhhhh. Next time I’ll consult the thread.

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MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



I'm on the fence about mine too. It's cool and great but more machine than I'll likely ever need, I'm thinking an Impact is more along the lines of what I actually want in a drum machine. So yeah... there may be two on offer soon.

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