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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Well in that case they definitely don’t rhyme unless you’re saying one or both in a danish accent that I’m not imagining properly That is correct, Peugeot (o) and Monsieur (ø) do not rhyme. However, a lot of Danes pronounce the former as if it rhymed with the latter, ie. both with ø. That is what I've been saying all along. Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 12:15 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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I’ve now piqued my own pedant interest: do more people read “zh” with a silent h or as the sound from Jacques or Zhukov? I’ve defaulted it to being Jacques because it makes sense compared to sh, but is that a spelling rule or something I made up?
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Like in a vacuum? If I was suddenly shown only the letters "zh", I would probably say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GioBjltdUnU (or the jacques sound but that might be because ive only seen that letter combination in transliterations where it means that sound) Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 12:38 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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Sep 29, 2018 12:36
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This Aussie ad for Peugeot shows how it's generally pronounced in Aus and in the UK. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adrxt6aXJzY
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Sep 29, 2018 14:09
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Zh always means that soft J sound to me (native speaker of American English)
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Sep 29, 2018 14:23
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Questionable etymology itt. Again.
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Sep 29, 2018 17:23
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sh makes a /ʃ/ sound /ʒ/ is the voiced equivalent of /ʃ/ and z is the voiced equivalent of s, so it makes sense that you'd write it out as "zh"
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Sep 29, 2018 17:26
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Shifty Nipples posted:Questionable etymology itt. Again. None of this is etymology.
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Captain Splendid posted:sh makes a /ʃ/ sound the letter(s) "_" make(s) a different phoneme /_/ depending what language you speak, so it makes sene that you'd write whatever the heck out as "zh"
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I just wanna know if zh is an english thing or something I made up/got from russian classes E: questionable pronunciation itt Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 17:47 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I just wanna know if zh is an english thing or something I made up/got from russian classes I am almost certain I picked it up from studying Russian and it being the romanization of 'Ж'. As an aside, I always thought it was sort of neat that lacking a hard 'J', Russians write the sound as 'дж', or 'dzh'. It works surprisingly well. джаймс джойс.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I just wanna know if zh is an english thing or something I made up/got from russian classes I think you need to look up transliteration because Ж can be transliterated however you like Example: 周 is transliterated in english as zhou. Within Chinese, there are at least 3 different ways to pronounce that same "zh"
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I know how transliteration works, I just want to know how the average anglophone reads "zh" because it's been "Ж" to me for a long enough time that I've used it in casual writing and want to know if it's normal to read it that way because if not, it's a Thing I Can't Believe I Just Figured Out.
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Sep 29, 2018 18:53
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I... I don't know what normal is either.
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*prompted because I was playing a goony sperg video game and my partner read Georgiy Zhukov's name as "Zoo"kov.
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Sep 29, 2018 18:59
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i am like 99% sure there has never existed a language where zhu is pronounced zoo tell your partner theyre wrong forever
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Aphrodite posted:None of this is etymology. I know.
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I recall hearing of a guy called Gerta who wrote a lot like the guy called Go-eeth Goethe
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thx for the final hint otherwise i dont think we woulda gotten it
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gleebster posted:I recall hearing of a guy called Gerta who wrote a lot like the guy called Go-eeth ... Oh. poo poo.
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Krankenstyle posted:the letter(s) "_" make(s) a different phoneme /_/ depending what language you speak, so it makes sene that you'd write whatever the heck out as "zh" I was quite clearly talking about English. Conundrum solved.
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Sep 30, 2018 00:02
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Conundrum solved: everyone sucks at english, except the danes, who suck at svensk
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men fan det är ju tÿdligen inte erotiskt
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Silmarildur posted:The experience gave me a lot more sympathy for Japanese people and their rubber/lover difficulties. I know what you mean, but when I think of Japanese rubber/lover problems...
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Oct 1, 2018 10:56
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I always thought it was "sword", when in fact it is pronounced "sword"
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Bogan Krkic posted:I always thought it was "sword", when in fact it is pronounced "sword" This, but unironically.
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Bats are apparently not blind at all. Welp.
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Bogan Krkic posted:I always thought it was "sword", when in fact it is pronounced "sword" 
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Oct 2, 2018 08:24
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Ok, now do "mischievous".
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Oct 2, 2018 11:27
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No soap, radio!
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Oct 2, 2018 12:57
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bell jar posted:No soap, radio! Lol! That goonsir is very funny.
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numerrik posted:Lol! That goonsir is very funny. Thanks a lot, [now I have to clean Mountain Dew off my keyboard/I actually didnt want to sleep tonight]!
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you forgot "gently caress the ocean"
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road near me in america: spoede I have no idea how I am supposed to pronounce it I say "spöd" because it is fun to say but I'm probably wrong. It's probably just "spode"
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Aleph Null posted:road near me in america: spoede https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYWRu8uT8z8
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hawowanlawow posted:you forgot "gently caress the ocean" Nuke hygiene from orbit it's the only way to POOP SOCK! 
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bell jar posted:No soap, radio! Mexican Radio?
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Aleph Null posted:road near me in america: spoede That's usually how an umluat is transliterated in English, yes. CF u-Boat Admiral Dönitz's name is pronounced in English as "Durnits" or "Donuts" when actually it's halfway between, a vowel native English speakers can't quite get right. I assume "spöd" is the same and is halfway between the American colloquial word for taters and "sperd," phonetically. Edit: I often go to south Louisiana for work, snd every time have to explain to my copilot that "Rue Lois IV" is French for "Louis the 14th's street." Chillbro Baggins has a new favorite as of 00:34 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Chillbro Baggins posted:That's usually how an umluat is transliterated in English, yes. CF u-Boat Admiral Dönitz's name is pronounced in English as "Durnits" or "Donuts" when actually it's halfway between, a vowel native English speakers can't quite get right. Which is silly because most anglophones pronounce Ö just fine in words like... word, for instance (of course some gently caress it up with adding an r sound in there but even they produce the Ö just fine before the r sound).
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Jerry Cotton posted:Which is silly because most anglophones pronounce Ö just fine in words like... word, for instance (of course some gently caress it up with adding an r sound in there but even they produce the Ö just fine before the r sound). There's already an r sound in word.
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