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Jose posted:they've used getting the deficit to 0% of gdp as the excuse for austerity all these years but check out these 2 cool tables Wait so they reduced the deficit by borrowing money to fill the gaps, while cutting back on just about everything?
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Dance Officer posted:Wait so they reduced the deficit by borrowing money to fill the gaps, while cutting back on just about everything?
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jBrereton posted:Yes it is an intentional poisoned chalice to the next Labour government. That's amazingly evil
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Like if you think that Labour is going to get in and be able to actually do anything with the first term other than make even more cuts to satisfy creditors who are going to care all of a sudden that Britain's debt is nearly level with its GDP while it tries to fix the completely hosed post-brexit industrial supply chains (meaning kowtowing to EU state aid law and so on), you are going to be disappointed. However, if you don't vote for them it's going to be 200% five years down the line and there's going to be even less of a public sector to try to save, so do it.
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Er so long as there is any deficit the total debt is going to increase, that's how finance works. It's not specifically part of their evil plan which was to just defund and privatise everything they could while pretending the deficit was important.
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namesake posted:Er so long as there is any deficit the total debt is going to increase, that's how finance works. It's not specifically part of their evil plan which was to just defund and privatise everything they could while pretending the deficit was important. This. Also  at people calling for Corbyn to cuck to international finance. I will say though that Blair really had the soft left whipped.
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tarbrush posted:One wonders who precisely is going to staff these hospitals Foreign nurses and doctors (provided they earn over £50k) And all those unemployed leave voters with medical qualifications who are just waiting for the immigrants to get out
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Crowsbeak posted:Also You think the group known as Literally Anyone In The World with a valid chip on their shoulder about how Britain treated them in the past isn't going to take Brexit as an excuse as to why the government is going to have to do as they say if they want to be lent money? Dream on.
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jBrereton posted:It's not a matter of "calling for", it's what's obviously going to happen, just as it did to Wilson and Callaghan who both ran very tight ships compared to the Tories before them. Even Blair was made to reduce the debt and let's not forget put the BoE at arms' length by absolutely psychopathic post USSR collapse Capital before Labour were considered unsuspicious enough to lend money to in the early-mid 2000s. Really got to hand it to the soft left. Finding reasons to already capitulate.
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Oct 3, 2018 19:20
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Don't need global financing if you foresake capitalism hth
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Labour have been more ambitious since but the 2017 manifesto required lots of public borrowing to pay to invest in stuff and that's hard to do when nobody will lend to you whether or not it's your fault. It's amazing that the Tories have the reputation as good for business and the economy when theyre in the process of destroying both
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Stairmaster posted:Don't need global financing if you foresake capitalism hth This. Also, I suspect that as the system will likley be in a situation with no one to lend to by 2021 throughout the world outside of governments. Labour will be fine. Despite the soft left having a giant meltdown.
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Oct 3, 2018 19:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_SkaJ-Q7hw this dude owns and should have his own show
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https://twitter.com/askforcawmbyok/status/1047454270092656640?s=21
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That was the day Theresa May finally became Prime Minister.
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Stairmaster posted:Don't need global financing if you foresake capitalism hth even if they somehow forsake capitalism, they presumably still need money to buy things like food and medicine from the outside world. unless, of course, they follow the eternal doctrine of juche.
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Concerned Citizen posted:even if they somehow forsake capitalism, they presumably still need money to buy things like food and medicine from the outside world. an entire kingdom run like that Christiana pirate village in the middle of Copenhagen would be quite the sight to see
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Concerned Citizen posted:unless, of course, they follow the eternal doctrine of juche. Seems to be where things are going anyway.
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Brexit is inevitable, you guys really should just lean into it. Fortress Britannia, all borders closed for a century. Nothing gets in or out. A fully self-sufficient Britain. No more Americans stealing your best actors, no more foreign chefs trying to make you eat food with flavor, just Britain, proud and true.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Brexit is inevitable, you guys really should just lean into it. Fortress Britannia, all borders closed for a century. Nothing gets in or out. A fully self-sufficient Britain. No more Americans stealing your best actors, no more foreign chefs trying to make you eat food with flavor, just Britain, proud and true. just go full edo period
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Guy Goodbody posted:Brexit is inevitable, you guys really should just lean into it. Fortress Britannia, all borders closed for a century. Nothing gets in or out. A fully self-sufficient Britain. No more Americans stealing your best actors, no more foreign chefs trying to make you eat food with flavor, just Britain, proud and true. Yeah but Ireland tho
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Guy Goodbody posted:Brexit is inevitable, you guys really should just lean into it. Fortress Britannia, all borders closed for a century. Nothing gets in or out. A fully self-sufficient Britain. No more Americans stealing your best actors, no more foreign chefs trying to make you eat food with flavor, just Britain, proud and true. 
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Avirosb posted:Yeah but Ireland tho Ireland conquers England, are greeted as liberators
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Bip Roberts posted:just go full edo period More like Pedo period
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Guy Goodbody posted:Brexit is inevitable, you guys really should just lean into it. Fortress Britannia, all borders closed for a century. Nothing gets in or out. A fully self-sufficient Britain. No more Americans stealing your best actors, no more foreign chefs trying to make you eat food with flavor, just Britain, proud and true. gently caress off
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Whorelord posted:gently caress off Imagine it, you would never have to deal with another ignorant American who thinks the UK, Britain, and England are synonyms.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Brexit is inevitable, you guys really should just lean into it. Fortress Britannia, all borders closed for a century. Nothing gets in or out. A fully self-sufficient Britain. No more Americans stealing your best actors, no more foreign chefs trying to make you eat food with flavor, just Britain, proud and true. I also hated the ending to 28 Days Later.
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Whorelord posted:gently caress off He's just trolling you mate. Though to be fair.. I'd quite like to see how the gammons react if that happened..
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Trainee PornStar posted:He's just trolling you mate. I know it's just boring at this stage
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Without Britain's naval and air power it would be trivial to cross the Channel and stage an invasion of the rest from Dover. Britain needs resources from elsewhere to maintain that wall of ships, though. "Fortress Britannia" can't really happen.
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Whorelord posted:I know it's just boring at this stage I know but after the 'general public' actually voting for this poo poo I cut the rest of the world a break when they take the piss. You've gotta admit we'd all be loving it if it was France that had done this 1st... We'd be all saying 'stupid frogs' & stuff. Schadenfreude is a fucker!!
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Avirosb posted:Yeah but Ireland tho my man have you heard of blockchain??????
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Taintrunner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_SkaJ-Q7hw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXbuqbFufn4
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Democrats would clap as cops mowed down a picket
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*squeezes out a huge loving rip from her box maged AR-15* "today... it was my turn" coming to theaters, 2020
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Kurtofan posted:Democrats would clap as cops mowed down a picket Trevor Noah just got a HUGE boner and he doesn't know why
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Moridin920 posted:Without Britain's naval and air power it would be trivial to cross the Channel and stage an invasion of the rest from Dover. Britain needs resources from elsewhere to maintain that wall of ships, though. "Fortress Britannia" can't really happen. But on the other hand you're wrong if you think it's the rest of the world that's going to go all Sea People in this situation
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jBrereton posted:I mean there's a tunnel nobody's bricking up any time soon. I just mean if it really was a war situation for some oddball reason, Britain can't really rely on the isolation of the isles to protect them as they have in previous centuries. I realize the guy was trolling/joking I just am kinda pouring out a drink of gin for the Wooden Wall I guess.
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