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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

dublish posted:

Smash your face against Chungking and call it a moral victory. This AI is going nowhere.

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Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009
Wow, 178 Tojos up in the air has got to be a scary sight.

Delete half the troops in Chungking every month to simulate the other half of the troops eating them.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Decoy Badger posted:

Wow, 178 Tojos up in the air has got to be a scary sight.

Delete half the troops in Chungking every month to simulate the other half of the troops eating them.

Holy poo poo, that's actually a great idea. The lack of J-Rations has driven them all mad.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

Epicurius posted:

It makes sense, if you think about it. How else was the Japanese Army going to handle naval operations? Rely on the Navy?

poo poo like this is why I have such a hard time suspending my disbelief when watching The Man in the High Castle.

Reuben Sandwich
Jan 27, 2007

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

I just want to see Grey roll into Chunking and turn right around and march them into Siberia/India
Roll into Chunking and them rolled over by Soviet T-34s.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I think realistically the defenders of Chungking would simply surrender by now. A besieged population usually is holding out in hope of relief, but there is no hope of relief short of Japan losing the war outright, and there is no indication from current events of that happening either. The defenders don't know how badly Japan is losing the production race vs. America... from their perspective, China is entirely lost, Japan is holding most of its claimed territory bar a few unimportant tiny islands, it is winning the air war, and is generally not suffering horrible attrition at sea, either.

Why would they keep fighting, especially given starvation, inevitable disease, and (again, with any hint of realism) total lack of resupply for warfighting either?

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Moon Slayer posted:

poo poo like this is why I have such a hard time suspending my disbelief when watching The Man in the High Castle.

There was, I think it was a Mitsubishi plant, that was researching aircraft for both the army and navy, and they had to build seperate facilities within the plant, even a seperate cafeteria and offices and seperate entrances for the army and the navy projects. Each part of the facility was guarded and padlocked, and it was grounds for termination for an employee from one section to be in the other section.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
In this situation I wonder if there'd be some pressure among CPC sympathizers in Chungking to seize power and offer up a surrender in order to secure some kind of postwar provisional government agreement with Japan. The KMT can't be very popular at the moment.

benzine
Oct 21, 2010

Epicurius posted:

There was, I think it was a Mitsubishi plant, that was researching aircraft for both the army and navy, and they had to build seperate facilities within the plant, even a seperate cafeteria and offices and seperate entrances for the army and the navy projects. Each part of the facility was guarded and padlocked, and it was grounds for termination for an employee from one section to be in the other section.

Never stop Japanese rivalry between branches,

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
on the other hand, being Chinese surrendering to Japanese is uh... not an attractive proposition either

Chuu
Sep 11, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I though the whole joke behind grognard games was people pretend they're this hyper-real simulation of a war but at their core they're just as arbitrary as any other strategy game, just clothed in history? Real-world Chunking would be a pile of rubble but there are a thousand other things that would need fixing if realism as our actual goal.

Hutter
Feb 16, 2011

It's been giving me nightmares.
My reason for voting to delete all/most defenders is cause the current standstill is kinda boring and I rather want to see all those pixel men to suffer whatever decision GH decides to do in lieu of staring at the gateway to the endless meat, bullet and airfield dimension.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Yea, the current situation is boring, I want to see Japanese troops get crushed in India/Manchuria in 1945, if you have someone to hotseat with delete them.

barman
Jan 29, 2013

Nothingtoseehere posted:

Yea, the current situation is boring, I want to see Japanese troops get crushed in India/Manchuria in 1945, if you have someone to hotseat with delete them.

An alternative is to have the Allied AI taken over by a human player

If Grey sinks 300 ships with troops and some carriers, he has his autovictory

Having the AI taken over by a human player gives a challenge to Grey, to still make the auto victory and to the allied player to avert it

No more stupid invasions, but some proper combat .... and a very interesting LP

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






My subs are having a bad time of it.



That's a supply ship for Truk gone.



Owch, they've been busy!






Lets set the fires again.






I've said it before, and I'll say it again – God drat the Combat system, and all who programmed it.



It's even a negative sinking day!

barman
Jan 29, 2013
japanese troops ; 14 K japanese vehicels 22
allied troops; 11K Allied vehicles 464

barman
Jan 29, 2013
nr of allied vehicles lost : 15

One word : TANKS !!

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!
I don't think that's a combat model issue. You're sending men into the jaws of late war American armor!

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
type-94-carried-on-sherman.jpg

barman
Jan 29, 2013
I actually meant he should bring some :-)

He is probably up against some AA units, they have 100 motorized support and are very proficient against infantry attacks with those 0.5in M51 Quad AAMG's and 40 mm Bofors

The combat model mirrors the effect of a Quad AAMG against a soft target and seems to be doing a fine job

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Unless the allies got more units ashore those vehicles are all trucks.
At last count the allied units present were an AA regiment, a base force and probably a HQ unit of some kind.
Allied base AV of 16 also match up well. Tanks are worth 1 AV each.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

3 October 1944

DE USS Shelton is torpedoed off Morotai by the Japanese submarine RO-41, later sinking under tow. It is thought that American ships hunting RO-41 sank USS Seawolf by mistake.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
The masses of engineers that appear to be present are a problem. They'll produce forts out of thin air overnight.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
Yeah. There are no tanks there, just engineers.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

I think barman's point is that Japanese tanks are needed to counter the anti-soft abilities of the Allied defenders.

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Grey Hunter posted:



It's even a negative sinking day!

Its a submarine. Sinking and remaining in service is what it does.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Maybe the thing to do at Chunking is to just leave a large enough force to pin the defenders, then have everyone else march off to India.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
That's what I wanted to do, but people demand blood.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


I voted to not edit, because yes the game is broken, but that's the point of Let's Plays - exploring a game' quirks and successes and weak points.

shalafi4
Feb 20, 2011

another medical bills avatar

Grey Hunter posted:

That's what I wanted to do, but people demand blood.

Blood for the blood god!

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Gort posted:

Maybe the thing to do at Chunking is to just leave a large enough force to pin the defenders, then have everyone else march off to India.

I have doubts wrt India being more interesting tbh.

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.

goatface posted:

The masses of engineers that appear to be present are a problem. They'll produce forts out of thin air overnight.

Considering the amount of digging that must be going on for fortifications, it’s probable that Grayverse jokes about digging a hole so deep that you reach China will end up reversed

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






I haven't blown Buna up in a while.






Hey, this actually worked for once!



Wake's getting invaded again!



A base force arrives and is destroyed.






How many more men will they throw away at Wake?



Killing an escort is always a nice touch.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

4 October 1944

HMCS Chebogue, a frigate, loses her stern to U-1227's homing torpedo. Though the ship survived to be towed to Wales, she was never repaired.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


OpenlyEvilJello posted:

4 October 1944

HMCS Chebogue, a frigate, loses her stern to U-1227's homing torpedo. Though the ship survived to be towed to Wales, she was never repaired.

The... stern fell off?!? This is most irregular and I do not care for it

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009
At this point historically, 1007 of 1156 commissioned boats had been built. 598 of these had been lost, about a 60% loss rate. Imagine being the poor bastard stuck in one of those things!

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Decoy Badger posted:

At this point historically, 1007 of 1156 commissioned boats had been built. 598 of these had been lost, about a 60% loss rate. Imagine being the poor bastard stuck in one of those things!

What percentage of the kriegsmarine was sunk at this point in the war irl?

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009
For warships of destroyer displacement and heavier, about 50% depending on your definition. But these include a large amount of scuttling where the majority of crew (~50%) survived - a crewman on a U-boat, in contrast, had about a 20% chance of surviving a sinking.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
how do you even survive in submarine hits?

Do you just hope you get blown up at the surface level?

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Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Compartmentalization. Prayer.

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