|
I think BG was also more willing to simplfy things a bit from 2e than this is with pathfinder.
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 10:01
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 22:26 |
|
|
So there is at least some earned skills you get from having ranks in kingdom stats, high rank 2 religion allows you to get a permanent nullify poison on lands you own. Military lets you have extra damage and stat specific building price drops. Oh and outside of getting morally decent advisor fluff, the best are always party members because their stats can make them like 20+ above regular smucks.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 10:59
|
|
|
Gorelab posted:I think BG was also more willing to simplfy things a bit from 2e than this is with pathfinder. That's kind of what I mean. Like encumbrance and resting are part of 2E too, but as I've said before nobody I ever played with actually used those rules anyway. I just did a quest where it teleported me back to my throne room at the end of it but I can't choose "skip days" in the kingdom prompt because it thinks I'm adventuring. This game, seriously.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 11:26
|
|
|
Taear posted:That's kind of what I mean. Like encumbrance and resting are part of 2E too, but as I've said before nobody I ever played with actually used those rules anyway. Guess what, when you leave the throne room you'll get teleported back to where the quest ended. So you're actually still out in the hunting grounds, if that's the quest you did. It's so dumb.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 12:10
|
|
|
alignment is terrible and I don't understand why nerds are so partial to a rigid, regular, predictable pattern-based system of categorisation for abstract concepts and social activity
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 12:21
|
|
|
Alignment should be a guidepost and not a hard rule. Except in the case of lawful good / chaotic evil. But really CE shouldn't even be a player choice in most games.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 12:38
|
|
|
ughhh mutagen being one a day is so lame
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 12:51
|
|
|
It's kind of amazing that there are bugged containers that if you get a magic item from them, they don't work and one of them is the capital stash where you get so many rewards. 
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 15:50
|
|
|
They need to hurry up with 1.05 because patch 1.04 absolutely stinks.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 16:17
|
|
|
I became a king and made a speech SO GOOD it made the game crash in the middle of it. Which is surprisingly the first crash I've had with the game. (Also I perpetually have 2 people frozen in place in my throne room, because they never got despawned after petitioning me. )
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 16:18
|
|
|
 Valerie, telling lies again
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 16:31
|
|
|
Failing three consecutive Lawful Evil Intimidate/Diplomacy checks during the (Chapter 3 spoilers)riot caused by the Bloom was great because it reads like I just threw a tantrum and then killed thirty peasants with one Explosive Bomb.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 16:46
|
|
|
Eox posted:Failing three consecutive Lawful Evil Intimidate/Diplomacy checks during the (Chapter 3 spoilers)riot caused by the Bloom was great because it reads like I just threw a tantrum and then killed thirty peasants with one Explosive Bomb. This was me too, but fireball. Seriously, peasants should think twice about rioting against a Baron who can cast fireballs, it's really not a great strategy.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 16:52
|
|
|
So are the Magus, Alchemist and Inquisitor Pathfinder only classes, since I haven´t encountered them before in the Faerun DnD games? Are any of them particularly suitable for a first complete playthrough if you want to have a decently varied playstyle?
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 17:03
|
|
|
Sylphosaurus posted:So are the Magus, Alchemist and Inquisitor Pathfinder only classes, since I haven´t encountered them before in the Faerun DnD games? Are any of them particularly suitable for a first complete playthrough if you want to have a decently varied playstyle? I made a Magus but treat him as a light fighter who can cast spells through his sword. The trick is to not concentrate on spellcasting and just treat it as a neat trick.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 17:09
|
|
|
deathbagel posted:This was me too, but fireball. Seriously, peasants should think twice about rioting against a Baron who can cast fireballs, it's really not a great strategy. Doubly so when you didn't inherit the title from your parents in some vague Divine Right "I'm metaphorically better than you" type situation, but by walking in and murdering the poo poo out of the badass super-powered crazy man that was already running the area.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 17:20
|
|
|
Ranger supremacy confirmed; I gave Ekun a magic bow and he’s like a freaking machine gun. Like we’ll attack a group of trolls and troll hounds and before my melee line gets there, 2 of the hounds are dead already.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 17:27
|
|
|
Sylphosaurus posted:So are the Magus, Alchemist and Inquisitor Pathfinder only classes, since I haven´t encountered them before in the Faerun DnD games? Are any of them particularly suitable for a first complete playthrough if you want to have a decently varied playstyle? All three of those classes are some of the best design work Paizo did, they follow the Bard model of 6 spell levels and 3/4ths base attack bonus progression. You'll have a pretty wide variety of options with any of them, but I personally recommend Alchemist. Bombs for easy AoE damage, a daily source of potions and some very useful self-buffs, plenty of skill ranks on top of an int focus. They based it on The Witcher! edit: vvvv i'd say Inquisitor has a little more Ranger than Fighter in its DNA
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 17:28
|
|
|
Sylphosaurus posted:So are the Magus, Alchemist and Inquisitor Pathfinder only classes, since I haven´t encountered them before in the Faerun DnD games? Are any of them particularly suitable for a first complete playthrough if you want to have a decently varied playstyle? Pathfinder originals I believe. They're all hybrid-y classes, so varied is very much what they do. I always thought of Magus as Fighter + Wizard, Inquisitor as Fighter + Priest and Inquisitor as Rogue + Wizard. Obviously they have a pile of unique mechanics so they're not true hybrid classes but as a rough guide it's always worked for me. You also get an NPC that starts off in each class, so even if your PC isn't one you can still have exposure to the mechanics if you choose.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 17:28
|
|
|
Eox posted:Failing three consecutive Lawful Evil Intimidate/Diplomacy checks during the (Chapter 3 spoilers)riot caused by the Bloom was great because it reads like I just threw a tantrum and then killed thirty peasants with one Explosive Bomb. deathbagel posted:This was me too, but fireball. Seriously, peasants should think twice about rioting against a Baron who can cast fireballs, it's really not a great strategy. My Bowsette/Trogdor build gave me a +23 bonus to intimidate checks at that point, I don't burninate as many peasants these days.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 17:39
|
|
|
Magus has fair amounts of similarity to the 3.5 Duskblade (PHB 2 class), but that class never made it into any the computer games as far as I'm aware. Alchemist and Inquisitor are both fairly original to Paizo.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 18:17
|
|
|
A developer on Discord said they are going to try to get a hotfix out tomorrow, with the actual major patch not coming until next week now instead of tomorrow. :welp:
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 18:34
|
|
|
On the plus side, at least they're actively trying to fix their game. They could have just stalled for months saying they were totally going to patch it guys we promise and then just hope people forgot.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 18:39
|
|
|
Yeah, I'm glad they are working hard and hopefully they test 1.05 first. I just think they could have communicated better because steam and their forums are starting to get angry, and the only commuication was on a fan-run discord in a throw-away comment.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 18:45
|
|
|
Dilber posted:A developer on Discord said they are going to try to get a hotfix out tomorrow, with the actual major patch not coming until next week now instead of tomorrow. Fun. Welp, at least Lost Paradise is out. I think I'll hold off on coming back to Kingmaker until I've finished with it. As funny as some of the bugs are it's pretty close to unplayable in the state it's in now.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 19:34
|
|
|
Taear posted:That's kind of what I mean. Like encumbrance and resting are part of 2E too, but as I've said before nobody I ever played with actually used those rules anyway. No one played with resting? Seriously? That's like such a core rule. You had some odd groups.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 19:53
|
|
|
Funso Banjo posted:No one played with resting? Seriously? That's like such a core rule. You had some odd groups. I'm going to guess he meant more without all the random other junk that Pathfinder Kingmaker keeps.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 19:54
|
|
|
So yeah, for the Mites/Kobolds, do you have to be True Neutral, or does any Neutral do. I wonder if it's possible to start as Lawful Neutral, take only good aligned choices, do Tomb/Thicket first to get to Sycamore, and get enough of a boost from all the good choices to become Chaotic Good in time to meet Kressle. Thus getting to stop the Mite/Kobold war, while also saving Kressle.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 20:02
|
|
|
Rookersh posted:So yeah, for the Mites/Kobolds, do you have to be True Neutral, or does any Neutral do. Any neutral works.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 20:07
|
|
|
Rookersh posted:So yeah, for the Mites/Kobolds, do you have to be True Neutral, or does any Neutral do. Wouldn't it be easier to just start Neutral Good? It works for both.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 20:14
|
|
|
As a non-neutral evil character I was unable to do either of those things. C'est la vie
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 20:18
|
|
|
I just finished Deadfire and I want some more hot isometric action. Should I get this game, or spend 25 bucks on the Deadfire season pass?
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 20:21
|
|
|
Yeah I didn't know that when they said Neutral on that check they meant ANY Neutral, I thought they meant strictly LN/CN/TN. On my first playthrough I sided with the ]kobolds and on my re-roll story mode to get back to where I was replay I did the same thing because it was what I did the first time and I was trying to match it... but mostly because I find kobolds adorably inept and funny. I mean.. they're just so comically pathetic. And they like dragons, who I am also very fond of!
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 20:22
|
|
|
The Dregs posted:I just finished Deadfire and I want some more hot isometric action. Should I get this game, or spend 25 bucks on the Deadfire season pass? Are you purchasing right now? Deadfire season pass. Are you going to play it in a couple months? This by far. It's a great game that is currently plagued with bugs where every hotfix has made it worse. also, it's currently unbeatable because of critical path bugs. I've put 30 hours in, and I'm only in act 3 (of 7) and I'll probably restart once they get it good to go.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 20:26
|
|
|
Dilber posted:Are you purchasing right now? Thanks!
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 20:31
|
|
|
 Also, according to a dev ( steam forums. ) it looks like the game is also getting the 'Scroll of Atonement' which resets the PC to their starting alignment. quote:Hello everyone!
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 21:06
|
|
|
I think I've finally managed to settle on my build, except for the last levels Monk Scaled Fist Paladin Paladin Sorcerer Gold Dragon Bloodline (current level) Paladin Dragon Disciple x10 something x5 My guess is that immunity to fear and all diseases is worth more than getting one normal feat from fighter. I could take fighter levels at the end or, since I qualify for eldritch knight, getting more and stronger buffs for greatswording. For my sorcerer level I grabbed enlarge person and eagle's splendor. That +4 charisma is worth +2AC and +2 to all saves, pretty good for a level 1 spell. But shouldn't it be a level 2 spell? Or at least it was in NWN2. Anyway, that treant bear thing ate serious poo poo from my charge. This game is making me want to pen and paper some fantasy too. Sky Shadowing posted:On my first playthrough I sided with the ]kobolds and on my re-roll story mode to get back to where I was replay I did the same thing because it was what I did the first time and I was trying to match it... but mostly because I find kobolds adorably inept and funny. I mean.. they're just so comically pathetic. And they like dragons, who I am also very fond of!  SubNat posted:Also, according to a dev ( steam forums. ) it looks like the game is also getting the 'Scroll of Atonement' which resets the PC to their starting alignment. 
Poil fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Oct 4, 2018 |
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 21:45
|
|
|
Based on this game's concept it sounds like I should enjoy it a whole lot so it's very sad that apparently the devs are incompetent. It sounds like if word comes down that it's Fixed and Good I should pick it up and if not just forget about it forever.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 21:49
|
|
|
Chomp8645 posted:Based on this game's concept it sounds like I should enjoy it a whole lot so it's very sad that apparently the devs are incompetent. Put it on your wishlist, pick it up on sale. The devs are actively working to fix things, it'll be mostly fine by the time it goes on sale.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 21:53
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 22:26 |
|
|
Poil posted:I think I've finally managed to settle on my build, except for the last levels I'd recommend a second level of Sorcerer over the Paladin level. It nets you one more level of casting, which is super handy and way more interesting later on. I'd also recommend Eldritch Knight for the last levels. Eldritch Knight to 7 and stopping Dragon Disciple at 8 would also be a good idea. The last two levels of Dragon Disciple are super bad. You lose out on the 4th attack per round and a level of spellcasting progression and gain wings. In a game without flying. Yay. Plus if you're Aasimar, you can get wings from feats I think. If you grab the level of Sorcerer and stop Disciple at 8, you get to cast 7th level instead of stopping at 6th, and you get access to higher level spells 2 levels earlier in the mid game, plus increasing the duration of buffs so you don't have to recast them as often, in a game that really disincentives resting.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2018 22:25
|
|
