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WhyteRyce posted:What is the general consensus on all those Chinese brand phones? Yes they are stealing your data and sending it to China instead of sending it to the NSA? I've been looking into them and the vast majority don't support all the LTE bands and would work badly in the states. It's a drat shame too because stuff like the Xiaomi A2, Pocophone, etc. are astounding and blow everything away anywhere near their price. I'm so fed up with my Moto G5+ and ready to jump ship to the first good phone I can find that's under $300 and has good LTE support (and no I don't want the Nokia 6.1--it's a 16:9 brick with no weather resistance). mod sassinator fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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mod sassinator posted:I've been looking into them and the vast majority don't support all the LTE bands and would work badly in the states. It's a drat shame too because stuff like the Xiaomi A2, Pocophone, etc. are astounding and blow everything away anywhere near their price. I'm so fed up with my Moto G5+ and ready to jump ship to the first good phone I can find that's under $300 and has good LTE supporti (and no I don't want the Nokia 6.1--it's a 16:9 brick with no weather resistance). Call your senator to allow Chinese phones to be sold in the US. They're not gon a support a Market where they can't sell.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:I My nihilism says that this won't matter
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GlassEye-Boy posted:I There's no ban on Chinese phones in the US. There's a ban on the government using them and there was a ban on ZTE specifically due to other reasons.
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What's the best way to diagnose your data connection not working, maybe for AT&T specifically? I think the presidential text broke something. edit: Put the SIM in another phone and it isn't working in that for data either. AT&T problem, I guess. 22 Eargesplitten posted:Anyone have a recommendation for a really durable case for a Nokia 6.1 that doesn’t look like it came off of a Sy-Fy original movie set? Seems like neither Otterbox nor Incipio make cases for it. I use this and it seems fine: https://amazon.com/Sucnakp-Absorption-Technology-Protective-smartphone/dp/B07C9S32MW Don't know if that fits your aesthetic or is tough enough. It is cheap though! Kia Soul Enthusias fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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WhyteRyce posted:What is the general consensus on all those Chinese brand phones? Yes they are stealing your data and sending it to China instead of sending it to the NSA? the australian government just banned Huawai from being involved with the 5g rollout over data concerns and their response was "weeelll they don't force us to do it"
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Charles posted:What's the best way to diagnose your data connection not working, maybe for AT&T specifically? I think the presidential text broke something. Thanks, I’ll look into that one. My wife just got the phone, supposedly new. Now she is getting a “Phone not allowed” error. We’re on MetroPCS, could it be that the phone was prepped for Google Fi, or did we get sold a stolen phone? Going to try calling MetroPCS, but their customer service isn’t exactly top notch. E: just had to be unlocked. Now she has a phone that isn’t garbage. 22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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Apparently, if you remove the default Samsung SMS app and install a non-Samsung app for SMS, you won't receive alerts like Amber Alerts, weather alerts...or the Presidential Alerts as the alert functionality is baked into the SMS app and NOT the OS like it's supposed to be. Friends of mine are saying they never got any alert at all and one posted on Twitter about it.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Apparently, if you remove the default Samsung SMS app and install a non-Samsung app for SMS, you won't receive alerts like Amber Alerts, weather alerts...or the Presidential Alerts as the alert functionality is baked into the SMS app and NOT the OS like it's supposed to be.
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I'm glad the Queen doesn't text she just pops on tv at Christmas.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Apparently, if you remove the default Samsung SMS app and install a non-Samsung app for SMS, you won't receive alerts like Amber Alerts, weather alerts...or the Presidential Alerts as the alert functionality is baked into the SMS app and NOT the OS like it's supposed to be. Samsung probably won't let you remove the app but it can be set to not default, iirc Also disabled with that app Disabler app that's Samsung exc I guess
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ThermoPhysical posted:Apparently, if you remove the default Samsung SMS app and install a non-Samsung app for SMS, you won't receive alerts like Amber Alerts, weather alerts...or the Presidential Alerts as the alert functionality is baked into the SMS app and NOT the OS like it's supposed to be. All the more reason to install Textra. I didn't get the Alert either
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just don't live in the US. Cheaper data plans, all the chinese fones u want, and no silly alerts.
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other people posted:just don't live in the US. Cheaper data plans, all the chinese fones u want, and no silly alerts. This is a really terrible and inaccurate post.
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CLAM DOWN posted:This is a really terrible and inaccurate post. I mean some of that isn't wrong. You also don't live in the US though...
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vyst posted:I mean some of that isn't wrong. You also don't live in the US though... Exactly. Our data plans, and many other countries, cost WAY more for WAY less, we still have alerts, and can be just as hard to get some phones.
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Speaking of Chinese electronics fun. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
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CLAM DOWN posted:Exactly. Our data plans, and many other countries, cost WAY more for WAY less, we still have alerts, and can be just as hard to get some phones. A substantial part of this is deregulation/privatization, which combined with the other part (the fact that huge swathes of the country are almost devoid of humanity and not serviced by high-volume roads, making infrastructure expansion expensive) means every person living in a civilized area with even moderate pop density and transportation connections is subsidizing the cost of rural service. Other countries with similar pop distribution issues (like China) have public infrastructure carrying the costs which are paid by the consumer in the US. It boils down to the fact that in the US the consumer is eating the cost of what is publicly subsidized elsewhere and retail pricing doesn't scale with income like taxes do, so everyone pays $80ish for passable service in civilized areas, middling coverage on major interstate corridors, and something between fuckall and 2G beyond that. Second-tier rural carriers (like Viaraeo or Hughes) have jack poo poo for surplus backhaul so any arrangement with the big carriers is almost as good as nothing and short of massive cap investment from the big 3 (honestly does sprint count anymore) to improve someone else's backhaul it's not going to improve unless the government starts viewing fiber as a natural extension of the post office's responsibilities.
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bull3964 posted:Speaking of Chinese electronics fun. Amazon, Apple, and Super Micro all say no. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/04/chi...eek-report.html So if it is true, then the conspiracy theory than becomes that they all know the chips are there, are working with the Chinese government, and don't want people to know.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Amazon, Apple, and Super Micro all say no. It would result in a catastrophic drop in revenue, you see.
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FAUXTON posted:A substantial part of this is deregulation/privatization, which combined with the other part (the fact that huge swathes of the country are almost devoid of humanity and not serviced by high-volume roads, making infrastructure expansion expensive) means every person living in a civilized area with even moderate pop density and transportation connections is subsidizing the cost of rural service. Other countries with similar pop distribution issues (like China) have public infrastructure carrying the costs which are paid by the consumer in the US. That's all well and good, but the world drastically varies - it's $85 for 1GB here as a baseline. ThermoPhysical posted:Amazon, Apple, and Super Micro all say no. Lmao of course they loving say no, what did you expect???
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CLAM DOWN posted:That's all well and good, but the world drastically varies - it's $85 for 1GB here as a baseline. Yeah and a lot of that basic variation can be accounted for by density/distance. There's not a thousand linear miles of nearly empty space in the entire Korean peninsula, for example. Compare that to, say, a line going from MPLS to Spokane. Even if you piggyback on the most direct interstate route you're taking a 1400 mile trip through North Dakota and Montana.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Amazon, Apple, and Super Micro all say no. It's a bit simpler than that. They informed the relevant authorities, have no evidence of actual breach that they need to notify end users of, and don't want their stock price to tank. I'm sure Cisco also denies that they have any evidence that the NSA intercepts their hardware and installs hardware backdoors, but we know it's happening.
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CLAM DOWN posted:That's all well and good, but the world drastically varies - it's $85 for 1GB here as a baseline. Yes, it's obvious they're going to say no. But it's also obvious that this is just from one news source and that should also be suspect too. It's also obvious that this won't even make a dent for Apple's profits and Amazon could probably give less of a poo poo. Super Micro is the one who got hit pretty bad from it, apparently.
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Nokia 7.1 is official for US https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/10/the-349-nokia-7-1-brings-a-low-price-flagship-style-design-to-the-us/ $349 Android One Snapdragon 636 SoC 4GB of RAM 64GB of storage 3060mAh battery 5.8-inch, 19.9, 2280×1080 LCD with notch bull3964 fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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bull3964 posted:Nokia 7.1 is official for US That's more appealing to me than the Pixel 3 by far. Mostly because of the price but it also looks pretty nice from a hardware standpoint.
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bull3964 posted:Nokia 7.1 is official for US Nice! That's really competitive with the midrange phones from China right now actually. I think I found my next phone--can't wait to dump this G5+.
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The only annoying thing about that Nokia is they compromised the phone with a glass back but then neglected to give it wireless charging.
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Mental Hospitality posted:That's more appealing to me than the Pixel 3 by far. Mostly because of the price but it also looks pretty nice from a hardware standpoint. The camera will be way worse, sounds like the display too. Not sure about 636 vs 845, but could be a noticeable performance difference. It’s not meant to compete with the Pixel 3 though, not sure why you’d compare them. You get the Nokia if you don’t want a flagship phone. It does look a ton nicer than a Moto G.
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I'll take a good 15+ watt fast charge any day over wireless charging. Wireless power is one of those features like modularization that sounds good on paper and you think you need, but then you use and realize it's kinda a dumb (slow) gimmick.
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Agree to disagree, but my point was that there was no reason to go with a glass back otherwise.
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mod sassinator posted:I'll take a good 15+ watt fast charge any day over wireless charging. Wireless power is one of those features like modularization that sounds good on paper and you think you need, but then you use and realize it's kinda a dumb (slow) gimmick. I don't know how your use case goes but I have wireless charging as mandatory in my book. A nice cradle charger makes it super convenient to charge at a desk and glance over to check notifications, or set it down in complete darkness at night when going to bed. Just don't use the puck chargers, they're garbage.
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Any recommendations for a screen protector for a Nokia 6.1? I know usually the advice is the cheapest tempered glass one, but it seems like some companies are messing them up because of a curved screen, which I didn’t realize it even has?
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bull3964 posted:Nokia 7.1 is official for US Does the camera app actually work? Because it doesn't on my 6.1. Also Bluetooth seems to be incompatible with Anker stuff. Otherwise I sort of want it and will give my phone to somebody else. edit: Oh wait, this isn't the same as the 7+. Oh well. Kia Soul Enthusias fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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bull3964 posted:Nokia 7.1 is official for US So many phones that don't work on Verizon 
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OhFunny posted:So many phones that don't work on Verizon At this point, there's no drat good reason since Verizon activates LTE only phones now.
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bull3964 posted:Nokia 7.1 is official for US Ooh, this looks appealing. My Nexus 5X died recently, I think I'd be much happier spending $349 on this than $650+ for a Pixel. bull3964 posted:The only annoying thing about that Nokia is they compromised the phone with a glass back but then neglected to give it wireless charging. I wouldn't have minded wireless charging, but I'm not too worried about structural integrity since I know I'm going to stick it in a case anyway. I hope someone makes a good folio case for it, I loved the one I had with my Nexus.
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