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SalTheBard posted:Not having ever watched Coven, is there anything I would've missed in the most current episode? There was this overly long story arc of the love of a witch and the axe man. There was also the worst witch hunters ever. They all died so you don't have to worry about them.
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Blazing Ownager posted:ED: Also (I suspect because it was based on a real, horrible person) the racist Kathy Bates character arc was one of the most disappointing things in Coven to me. I loved the idea that through crazy hosed up circumstances that she'd end up with an actual redemption arc, because it was pretty bold to do that with a terrible person. The last minute 'Nope just kidding still evil, never gonna change!' ruined what could have been one of the most unique and interesting things about Coven. Like I said though it being based on a real person half makes me think it was pressured decision and not necessarily the original intent. I get why they didn't, and completely agree with their decision to not rehabilitate her. I also agree it would have been a good turn, but they would have had to make up a fictional character instead of using the real, historical figure. For someone as terrible as the ~real person~ was, even rehabilitating them in fiction is a kind of (literal) white-washing of history that should definitely be avoided.
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Dienes posted:The Kinsey scale joke with the warlocks caught me off guard and I laughed my rear end off. Wait how did i miss this???? What was the joke? Also i really loving hope this isn't the last we see of Billy Porter. Oh and am i being stupid/misremembering, or is this ambiguous: I can't tell if the warlock school is supposed to be the same bunker as Venable and the gang were in, or just an identical one somewhere else. I'm assuming the former but the big ominous "statue" not being there (maybe i just didn't notice) is throwing me off. Not really even sure why it would be the latter, but my brain is not firing on all cylinders today. 
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:Wait how did i miss this???? What was the joke? Warlock: "Oh, there's no 4s. We're all 3s." Gay Warlock: "Or after a few drinks, all 6s."
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Dienes posted:Warlock: "Oh, there's no 4s. We're all 3s." Which one of those Warlocks wasn't gay?
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I get why they didn't, and completely agree with their decision to not rehabilitate her. I also agree it would have been a good turn, but they would have had to make up a fictional character instead of using the real, historical figure. For someone as terrible as the ~real person~ was, even rehabilitating them in fiction is a kind of (literal) white-washing of history that should definitely be avoided. Yep, I kind of get it too, which is why I think it's a shame they used a real person (and got called on it). It made for a lovely resolution to that arc, because it was a really neat rarely seen story up to like 2 episodes before the finale taking someone like that and having them befriend Queenie and change as a person. As someone who can separate the real person from a fictional accounting - I mean she was about as realistic as Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter - I really wanted her to end up like spending immortality atoning as a changed person. I guess the resolution made the whole arc seem like a waste and it was a really well done arc, a sort of ultra-twisted message of hope that stood out.
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OmegaBR posted:But the Boys School was pretty well done, as was explaining how Queenie and Madison came back from the dead. Don't think they've mentioned how Myrtle is still there though. If she had some clever plan to come back from the dead all along it'd undo a gripe I had with Coven in that her willingly getting roasted was out of character and dumb as gently caress. Like I really hope it's a flashback to her pulling a total long con and burning a golem or using some phoenix magic or something.
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Yeah, I thought this was clearly the first half of a two parter, we're gonna have cameos from all of the other witches soon. Probably Stevie Nicks too. Doesn't matter, best cameo's already happened. la la la la la la.
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Reik posted:You think Alpha warlock guy is the anti Christ baby from season 1? His name is Michael Langdon. That's exactly who he is.
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Reik posted:You think Alpha warlock guy is the anti Christ baby from season 1? That's what literally everyone in the thread thinks.
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Dienes posted:That's what literally everyone in the thread thinks. I...did not read the thread.
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Tenzarin posted:I love the James March character. When he just starts laughing was great. I love it because the James March character comes from the early 1900s so it stands to reason that he'll be over the top with his dialogue and accent. It's still kinda weak because he looks so young when Evan Peters plays him but it's still just so much fun to watch.
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Langdon implied that he is behind the Apocalypse somehow so I'd like to see if they tie that in with Cult somehow
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Finished Cult and loving loved it! I really liked the "realness" of it. There was no supernatural bullshit, no demons, werewolves, vampires, etc. It was real and it preyed on real fears. I thought it had kind of a flat ending but really liked it overall.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Yep, I kind of get it too, which is why I think it's a shame they used a real person (and got called on it). It made for a lovely resolution to that arc, because it was a really neat rarely seen story up to like 2 episodes before the finale taking someone like that and having them befriend Queenie and change as a person. As someone who can separate the real person from a fictional accounting - I mean she was about as realistic as Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter - I really wanted her to end up like spending immortality atoning as a changed person. AHS has always mixed in some real life characters into the story, and I never really liked that. It always felt forced and awkward in my opinion. Asylum had the best take on this, as it was doubtful if the character was who she claimed to be or just delusional. From the top of my head: Murder house: the Black Dahlia Elizabeth Short Asylum: Anne Frank Coven: Delphine LaLaurie, Axeman of New Orleans, Marie Laveau etc Freak Show: Edward Mordrake Hotel: besides James March obviously being based on H.H. Holmes there was the serial killer dinner party with Aileen Wuornos, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Richard Ramirez and Zodiac. Roanoke: well, the Roanoke settlers, obviously Cult: Valerie Solanas and Zodiac again
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Facebook Aunt posted:They did say the bunker used to be a boys school, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the same place. Presumably Langdon leads the molemen out into the light. Or he kills all the witches and all the warlocks. Either way the school becomes vacant. https://twitter.com/dril/status/384408932061417472
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You know, as a fan of AHS I never completely finished season 1 (I remember bondage suit dude) and didn't make it through season 2. Season 3 and on I've watched. I don't remember why I didn't binge through these completely on netflix back then but I may as well play catch-up now. Then I'll probably understand more references to those.
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Joe Mama Poonana posted:You know, as a fan of AHS I never completely finished season 1 (I remember bondage suit dude) and didn't make it through season 2. Season 3 and on I've watched. I don't remember why I didn't binge through these completely on netflix back then but I may as well play catch-up now. Then I'll probably understand more references to those. Asylum is really good, it does suffer from "too many subplots" that the longer seasons all stuffy from
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Are we just supposed to assume that Grandma Langdon (Jessica Lang) died? I hoped that we would find out what happened to her.
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Did I miss Billy Eichner's character dying, or is he running around during the middle of all of this. joebuddah posted:Are we just supposed to assume that Grandma Langdon (Jessica Lang) died? I hoped that we would find out what happened to her. Looks to me like these two episodes (4 and next week's) are a two-parter with flashbacks to the witch school side of things, where we'll get explanations for what happened to the Warlocks, at least a cameo from Misty, and an explanation for Myrtle's appearance, and another for why Taissa Farmiga isn't around in the present anymore. (She's probably dead though.) So I imagine that the Murder House explanations are the next thing coming down the line after they get past all of that.
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Am I the only one who feels like the head Warlock could totally hang out with Dr. Strange? "Hey man, the Antichrist kind of blew up my dimension. Can I come to the MCU?" Open Source Idiom posted:Yeah, I thought this was clearly the first half of a two parter, we're gonna have cameos from all of the other witches soon. Probably Stevie Nicks too. Turns out all the witches really want to do is avenge Stevie Nicks. fist4jesus posted:Pretty poo poo warlocks if a few locals can successfully burn their hexmen lair down. I was thinking that. "Man, maybe the witches really do have a point about you guys sucking." I could only picture a whole circle of students trying to put the molotov back together again. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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Just wanna say: Kathy Bates has always been a great actress, but she's absolutely killing her role this season. You can absolutely buy that she's an incredibly strong woman, from the way she holds herself I can absolutely believe that Mead is the kind of military killer the script calls for her to be. But she's also projecting this incredibly lonely, and I think vulnerable presence, like in scenes with adult Michael, or when she lets herself get bossed around by that butcher. The script throws these seeming contradictions at her, and the way Bates lets you track her emotional journey is really good, really thoughtful acting. Even that scene in the carpark where she's shouting like a crazy person, it should just be, you know, standard boiler plate irony stuff. Crazy woman isn't actually crazy, successfully predicts end times. But I think it ends up being grounded in something legitimately emotional, so the scene ends up being just resonant enough that I, at least, ended up feeling quite spooked by her. (An experience that's honestly pretty rare in AHS.) But yeah, the way she alternates between seeming powerful and being powerless is masterful, just really impressive stuff. Edit: Someone else who's just killing it in an incredibly small part is BD Wong. He's the least prominent of the four warlocks -- I think he has, maybe ten lines? -- but he's giving this fully realised character. He'd be an excellent addition to the show moving into future seasons. Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:Just wanna say: Kathy Bates has always been a great actress, but she's absolutely killing her role this season. You can absolutely buy that she's an incredibly strong woman, from the way she holds herself I can absolutely believe that Mead is the kind of military killer the script calls for her to be. But she's also projecting this incredibly lonely, and I think vulnerable presence, like in scenes with adult Michael, or when she lets herself get bossed around by that butcher. The script throws these seeming contradictions at her, and the way Bates lets you track her emotional journey is really good, really thoughtful acting. loving  on bothKathy Bates is incredible and I love Ryan Murphy for giving me meaty Bates roles close to yearly now.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Edit: Someone else who's just killing it in an incredibly small part is BD Wong. He's the least prominent of the four warlocks -- I think he has, maybe ten lines? -- but he's giving this fully realised character. He'd be an excellent addition to the show moving into future seasons. Mr. Robot is ending, too, so he's available apart from any Jurassic World 3 commitments.
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BD Wong is great. I used to have this VHS tape of an Ethan Hawke movie called “Mystery Date” that me and my best friend watched a million times in high school, and BD Wong was really silly and fun. He’s quite a prolific actor!
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Open Source Idiom posted:Just wanna say: Kathy Bates has always been a great actress, but she's absolutely killing her role this season. You can absolutely buy that she's an incredibly strong woman, from the way she holds herself I can absolutely believe that Mead is the kind of military killer the script calls for her to be. But she's also projecting this incredibly lonely, and I think vulnerable presence, like in scenes with adult Michael, or when she lets herself get bossed around by that butcher. The script throws these seeming contradictions at her, and the way Bates lets you track her emotional journey is really good, really thoughtful acting. Kathy Bates is a Hollywood legend. AHS landing her was arguably a way bigger deal than Angela Bassett or Jessica Lange. She's done so many different roles in her filmography that she could rival Gary Oldman. This isn't even her best season so far. She killed it in Hotel.
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I would kill to be on any Ryan Murphy show tbh. At this point, anyway. Oh who am I kidding I also woulda killed to get cast on Glee.
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Yeah honestly working for Ryan Murphy must be great. "Hey Ryan I'm going to do this role as zany as loving possible" *furiously rewriting script* "Oh hell yeah"
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Doltos posted:Kathy Bates is a Hollywood legend. AHS landing her was arguably a way bigger deal than Angela Bassett or Jessica Lange. She's done so many different roles in her filmography that she could rival Gary Oldman. I didn’t much care for Hotel overall, but I loved all the Kathy Bates and Denis O’Hate scenes. They just played off each other so well.
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a new study bible! posted:Scream Queens season 1 is the best season of AHS
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LadyPictureShow posted:I didn’t much care for Hotel overall, but I loved all the Kathy Bates and Denis O’Hate scenes. They just played off each other so well. Liz Taylor was the main character of Hotel and I won’t hear otherwise. O’Hare really killed it that season. a new study bible! posted:Scream Queens season 1 is the best season of AHS Gonna have to rewatch Justice Scalia getting the poo poo beat out of him to remind me of simpler, happier times.
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