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Vord posted:Now the wait begins Yes, I know. The wait for and end to spoiler tags! Amazing episode. Amazing. Confirmation that Doc and Monarch are related--botherhood is most likely, but they were careful not to reveal it, so maybe cousins? Twins? Who knows. Assuming that Comatown is a real place where anyone in a coma can go, which I'm doing because each of the three people in those scenes knows things that none of them should otherwise know*, then we have the boy's mom's name. Not sure that'll go anywhere. Partial confirmation on Hank's catching Dean and Sirena together being the event that triggers his growing up. I wonder how much of that will happen off-screen between now and 2020, when we get the first sizzle reel for Season 8? How much will be made into episodes? I'm thinking that Hank will come to terms with it all eventually. At least now, he realizes that he has to grow up. I seriously think that this has never once occurred to him. I thought the stinger was a little silly. I'm not sure what I think about it, really. It's cool, it's poignant in a way... not sure how to take it when he says he's going to go grow up while wearing his Bat mask. * Here's what I mean: Comatown can't be the hallucination of Hank, Phage, or Action Man, because
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That post credit stinger cracked me up. Great episode, great finale, can't wait to see where they go with all the new plot threads. e: I thought it was really obvious that they were sharing a coma. They even set up Phage earlier in the episode and I don't know if Hank even knows who that is.
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Oct 5, 2018 21:30
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At first, I heard "Hank 45" and thought, hey, I thought there were, like, 14 or so Hanks prior to the destruction of the clones? But then I remembered this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pK5HmuCMBM
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Oct 5, 2018 21:31
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Is Dean going back into a depression after the ending, sliding back into old patterns and negating his growth? Also, Dean knows that Dermott is their half-brother and he even knows that his sister is really his mother. X_Toad fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 21:37
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Holy poo poo. So good.
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Oct 5, 2018 21:37
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Awesome season, not a bad episode in the bunch.
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Oct 5, 2018 21:39
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I'd say Jackson and Doc made a good choice having season 7's "arc" be something a bit lower key and episodic, one that didn't need more than the 7 episodes leftover once they finished off season 6's arc: This ep feels like a finale, and that we won't have the "actual" finale at the start of next season.
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Oct 5, 2018 21:40
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What an amazing episode. When it ended, I wasn't upset but was still all "COME ON TELL MORE!"
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Oct 5, 2018 21:52
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X_Toad posted:Is Dean going back into a depression after the ending, sliding back into old patterns and negating his growth? I don't think so. He knows he did a bad thing, and he might partially blame himself for Hank's condition, as without his actions, Sirena wouldn't have ghosted Hank (probably), and without that happening, Hank doesn't Venture out into the storm. He's worried about his brother and feels horrible for what he did to betray him, but that's it. As to his comments about what he misses about their old life, I think that's a symptom of him growing up. I mean, most people start to miss "the simpler times" at some point in their lives. It's natural for Dean to miss the old "Go Team Venture!" days. He's got things to worry about now--his future, a career, relationships with people within his family, new friends, etc. Hank was still the same old Hank: childlike, with nary a care in the world. Dean is experiencing nostalgia for the first time. Having his twin brother in a coma was the trigger. I know that if I did something like that to my brother (who is 18 mos. younger than me), and he suddenly ended up in a coma, I'd probably have that same conversation with him: apologizing for what I did, telling him how I missed the times when we were kids and best friends, and blaming the disappearance of a Whatchamacallit bar on our ultraviolent bodyguard.
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http://www.adultswim.com/videos/the-venture-bros/the-saphrax-protocol/
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Oct 5, 2018 22:00
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I'm hoping that Sirena isn't gone for good because I really like her character, but her not appearing at all in the episode doesn't bode well for that specific wish. Although it seems that her voice actress has become their go-to voice for every secondary female character, with the exception of I think Dot Com and Agent Kimberley McManus. X_Toad fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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420 Gank Mid posted:Actually when I met him in the men's room at comic con Jackson Public told me he was actually based on Atilla the Hun and the whole Hunter S Thomson/Douglas Macarthur connections are a red herring Peeny Cheez posted:Just like communism. Cojawfee posted:Who are you , Perry Mason? And that's how a reference to Clue is born. This was a good episode. I can totally see Hank crashing on the couch of uncle Malcom next season. Alkabob fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 22:09
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 Although Does Hank know they're clones or only Dean
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Oct 5, 2018 22:10
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Peeny Cheez posted:
He knows. Dean told him at the end of season 5.
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X_Toad posted:I'm hoping that Sirena isn't gone for good because I really like her character, but her not appearing at all in the episode doesn't bode well for that specific wish. Agreed. But, I'm a little afraid that she's Hank's Triana, and will be a non-factor going forward. She's his first love, and while she returned his feelings more than Triana did to Dean (whose crush was unreciprocated), she was still that first girl who he fell head-over-heels in love with. Hank really Deaned on her pretty hard: he was obsessive and smothering. Sirena, I think, fell for Hank because of how fun and care-free he is. But, I think she started drifting away when she went to college, which is when most girls (and boys) start to grow away from people they had relationships with before college. And Dean was there, this guy she knows who has lived in the same world she's lived in, and... well, one thing led to another. I think that had Dean and her not gotten together, her relationship with Hank was still on borrowed time. She was ready to be an adult and do adult stuff. Hank, on the other hand, couldn't even get his shirt off when they were making out.
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I hope she remains as a friend/classmate to Dean, but even that seems far-fetched. Hey, no need to torture myself about it. I will either jump with joy or move on when the trailer for next season drops. Although one should remember that she didn't "get together" with Dean. Apparently they didn't do it because they feel something for each other. People on other boards are thinking that he might actually be homo/bisexual and the confusion from those feelings led to him sleeping with her. Also, I would just like to brag a little : I totally called that the first thing the Guild did with the teleporter was to make a link to Meteor Majeur! X_Toad fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 22:24
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Hank is perfectly capable of hallucinating an Action Man, telling him he had a stroke, and then hallucinating Action Man being surprised, so your logic is a bit flawed there. I do think it was a real place, though, if Hank had never seen Barbarella (was some of that stuff accurate to the movie?) and if Phage told Hank that he got into a transporter mishap, so Bobbi St. Cloud is likely straight from Action Man's mouth. I can't wait to see what they end up going with for next season. They've lined up so many different plot hooks this season that they could take the next season in virtually any direction, and I doubt they could even cover them all. I also wish Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick had a son together, so he could write a The Adventures of Hank Venture spinoff while his two daddies concentrate on the main show. X_Toad posted:I hope Where are they getting this from? Dean's always been about the ladies -- he was in nervous, acid-reflux-inducing love with Triana, and something close to that with the college chick from The Palaemon Project. I read that line as Dean just not being interested in Sirena, but they're friends, and in college, and probably drunk and horny once in a while. Phenotype fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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In a show where Dr. Orpheus can travel to Hell to seek out the lost souls of Hank, Dean, and the Outrider (on separate occasions), and the Monarch can remote into Dr. Venture's mind to drive him into committing suicide, there's no reason to think Phage, Action Man, and Hank can't share a collective dreamscape that combines their Sci-Fi points of reference.
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Phenotype posted:Bobbi St. Cloud You made me do a double take and rewatch that scene. It's St. Simone, hopefully they're not related to St. Cloud. quote:Where are they getting this from? Dean's always been about the ladies -- he was in nervous, acid-reflux-inducing love with Triana, and something close to that with the college chick from The Palaemon Project. I read that line as Dean just not being interested in Sirena, but they're friends, and in college, and probably drunk and horny once in a while. Well there was this deleted scene from a season ago but I'm pretty sure this is a miscommunication joke.
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Oct 5, 2018 23:05
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Are You Kidding Me!! This was a good season. See y'all in 2020 (holy gently caress that's a weird statement that's likely true)
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Oct 5, 2018 23:07
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:In a show where Dr. Orpheus can travel to Hell to seek out the lost souls of Hank, Dean, and the Outrider (on separate occasions), and the Monarch can remote into Dr. Venture's mind to drive him into committing suicide, there's no reason to think Phage, Action Man, and Hank can't share a collective dreamscape that combines their Sci-Fi points of reference. Although I would say that I don't really agree with Hank : the Midichlorians were needed to make sense of the "infant rule" of the old Jedi Order. What wasn't needed is the implication that they're an indicator of power level. Phenotype posted:I also wish Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick had a son together, so he could write a The Adventures of Hank Venture spinoff while his two daddies concentrate on the main show. Phenotype posted:Where are they getting this from? Dean's always been about the ladies -- he was in nervous, acid-reflux-inducing love with Triana, and something close to that with the college chick from The Palaemon Project. I read that line as Dean just not being interested in Sirena, but they're friends, and in college, and probably drunk and horny once in a while.
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Oct 5, 2018 23:12
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Haven't watched it yet, but one last thing to throw into the MacArthur / Thompson argument: Back into no-spoilers land I go...
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Oct 5, 2018 23:18
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Great season but merely thought the finale was good.
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Oct 5, 2018 23:22
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What the hell does "tenning" mean in this context? I'm pretty sure I'm about to have a Tenning Guild logo T-shirt in a couple weeks.
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Phenotype posted:What the hell does "tenning" mean in this context? I'm pretty sure I'm about to have a Tenning Guild logo T-shirt in a couple weeks. Becoming a level 10.
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Oct 6, 2018 00:04
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Oh ffs
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Data Graham posted:Haven't watched it yet, but one last thing to throw into the MacArthur / Thompson argument: ... OK, now I might be thinking that it's not a coin-kee-dink.... X_Toad posted:What was Phage's Sci-Fi point of reference? I don't remember. Well, he did make a reference to Diff'rent Strokes when Hank accidentally alluded to it. Neither Hank nor Action Man had seen the show, so that sort-of counts, doesn't it? Also, Phage mentioned a "glowing lake of goo," something he (Phage) had seen while in Comatown. Action Man correctly identified that as "the Matmos," which is something directly from Barbarella. So, it all checks out, as far as I'm concerned.
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So, Dean's interpretation of New Zealand Helper was not that he was a clone of Rusty, but that Rusty was just cloned himself. Works for me! Real glad to see the titular characters get such heartful scenes, Samson getting a good ol' murder fest, etc. etc. Man this show is wonderful. Can't imagine someone who hasn't seen this show before watching almost any episode this season and understanding it. Also:   CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Oct 6, 2018 |
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I know it's not fair because Dean did something real bad to Hank last episode, but I still believe that the later gets too much screentime in comparison to his brother. I know he's funnier to write and that he's voiced by one of the creators, but still...
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Oct 6, 2018 00:41
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OH MY GOD. HANK DEAN AND BROCK WERE ALL SO loving GOOD. NOW WE JUST NEED DOC TO SAY STUFF NEXT SEASON.
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Oct 6, 2018 00:48
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Pretty surprised there was no think tank.
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This was a great way to end the season. We finally find out about the boys mother and her name. We got in universe confirmation that Rusty and Monarch are related so can’t wait to see next season how Monarch will deal with that info. Monarch is officially a level 10 villain.Hank going off to wander to find himself. And then we get some good ol Swedish Murder machine Brock action to boot. I’m sad that was the end but excited to see where the next season goes.
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Hopefully next season starts the same as season 2, but with Hank in Rusty's place Everybodys freeeeeeeeee
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Pretty surprised there was no think tank.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Pretty surprised there was no think tank. I was thinking about that, too. Maybe the way it works is that you have to have some connection or familiarity, or something like that, to enter into a shared Comatown? Hank and Action Man definitely have that. Phage, not so much, although he is only a handshake or two away from Hank's immediate sphere, so maybe that's "close enough." Also, fate might have something to do with it. After all, think about all the people who are in comas, and we saw only three. Hank needed a couple of people he might be familiar with to get out of Comatown, and so fate decided that he knew one guy who was kicking around, and also there was some other guy who knew a guy who knew a guy who knew Hank. Or something silly like that. Phage was the most alien part of Comatown. The setting and monster were from Empire Strikes Back, and it included the dolls and Matmos from Barbarella, but I'm not sure what elements Phage's consciousness might have contributed. Also, half of him is a miniaturized AT-AT Walker, so... I'd say he was a figment of someone's imagination, but he knew what happened to Phage in the real world right before he showed up in Comatown, and Hank and Action Man wouldn't have known anything about that. There's plenty of meat on that bone, really. Comatown, I mean. Good thing we'll never hear about it again!
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The World Inferno posted:
Rusty has to be a clone for the timeline to work out right. Malcolm and him have a picture of them playing with toys at about the same age. Malcolm was born in 1969ish. Original rusty would have been 9-10 by the time malcolm was born, yet they're almost the same age.
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Shindragon posted:This was a great way to end the season. We finally find out about the boys mother and her name. We got in universe confirmation that Rusty and Monarch are related so can’t wait to see next season how Monarch will deal with that info. Monarch is officially a level 10 villain.Hank going off to wander to find himself. And then we get some good ol Swedish Murder machine Brock action to boot. I’m sad that was the end but excited to see where the next season goes. Oh, on that. We now have confirmation that Monarch was probably never a Level 10 villain, even at his peak, because this ritual was wholly new to him. Assuming, of course, that they didn't come up with that ritual just for the Monarch, but that's not the impression I got.
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tarlibone posted:Oh, on that. We now have confirmation that Monarch was probably never a Level 10 villain, even at his peak, because this ritual was wholly new to him. Assuming, of course, that they didn't come up with that ritual just for the Monarch, but that's not the impression I got. what. Shiela specifically said he was a level 6 with a flying cocoon and a hundred henchmen.
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Billzasilver posted:what. Shiela specifically said he was a level 6 with a flying cocoon and a hundred henchmen. There was a whole discussion about that several weeks ago. Some folks assumed that Monarch was, at some point, level 9 or 10. Others disagreed.
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