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glynnenstein posted:10% the FD just deciding to break something for no obvious reason. •Watched FD try to break through a steel door/jamb combo with an axe, offering him the keys multiples times. He eventually gave up and used the key, but not before putting several axe gashes in an otherwise good door. •Watched one on a roof use a chainsaw to cut a ventilation hole. Sawed through two trusses and the ridge in the process. I used to get mad at them dumping a couple thousand extra gallons on a fire that was already out, but after a flare up hours after they left one time, I no longer let that bother me. Der Kyhe posted:And major water damage is always easier to fix than major fire damage. No I get that, but I don't enjoy having to oversee the remediation of $50,000 in water damage because someone had a grease fire that could have been put out with a lid. It is what it is, but I'll still bitch about it.
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Der Kyhe posted:The water-based are meant to control and prevent the fire from spreading, not exactly to kill it. That's why they also in some installations go off in sectors. The fancy poo poo like halogen are meant to kill the fire as quickly as possible. Correction: water is used in residential applications to allow as many people as possible to survive, for commercial applications it's strictly to protect property.
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Oct 5, 2018 19:05
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glynnenstein posted:As a building engineer, literally the first thing you teach a new apprentice is where the sprinkler shut off valves are located. Sprinklers are by far the one thing most likely to do major damage in no time. When you get a call for a fire alarm in the middle of the night it's like 20% concern that there's actually a fire and 80% that a sprinkler head popped and you'll be tearing out drywall, carpet, furniture, and ceiling grid on 3 floors. Well, 20% fire 70% sprinkler 10% the FD just deciding to break something for no obvious reason. The town my brother bought a house in requires new buildings and renovations over X amount of the building to install a sprinkler system, he tried to sneak the plans through without it and they caught him. I give it 80/20 odds the sprinkler system breaks somehow and does more damage than a fire ever would have.
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Der Kyhe posted:The water-based are meant to control and prevent the fire from spreading, not exactly to kill it. That's why they also in some installations go off in sectors. The fancy poo poo like halogen are meant to kill the fire as quickly as possible. Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:No I get that, but I don't enjoy having to oversee the remediation of $50,000 in water damage because someone had a grease fire that could have been put out with a lid. It is what it is, but I'll still bitch about it. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 21:05
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I'm the blast of nasty-rear end black water that sat in those pipes probably since the building was built.
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Oct 5, 2018 21:38
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evil_bunnY posted:Also water damage doesn't generate smoke inhalation casualties. Black mold spores. Just don't set anything on fire and maybe install a sprinkler with a higher temperature rating near your stove.
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glynnenstein posted:As a building engineer, literally the first thing you teach a new apprentice is where the sprinkler shut off valves are located. Sprinklers are by far the one thing most likely to do major damage in no time. When you get a call for a fire alarm in the middle of the night it's like 20% concern that there's actually a fire and 80% that a sprinkler head popped and you'll be tearing out drywall, carpet, furniture, and ceiling grid on 3 floors. Well, 20% fire 70% sprinkler 10% the FD just deciding to break something for no obvious reason. Is building engineer a fancy name for custodian?
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:Pretty impressed at how it successfully put out the fire. Shoot it to death! 
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spankmeister posted:I'm the blast of nasty-rear end black water that sat in those pipes probably since the building was built. It's why I loop my PC's water cooling through my buildings sprinklers. And air conditioning. And my tropical fish tank. And my shower.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:•Watched FD try to break through a steel door/jamb combo with an axe, offering him the keys multiples times. He eventually gave up and used the key, but not before putting several axe gashes in an otherwise good door. I wouldn't tell them how to deal with a fire, but my destructive FF experience was wanting to pry elevator doors on an entrapment even though I had the door key. My mechanics arrived almost at the same time and it saved me a pain in the rear end. And of course I'm happy to have sprinklers, it's just that they come with complications that create headaches. spankmeister posted:Is building engineer a fancy name for custodian? I'm the guy who pretends I'm gonna change something when the office is too hot/cold.
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Oct 6, 2018 00:19
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IDK if it's OSHA when it's a youtuber, but I think this qualifies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OszX18NLtrY
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BraveUlysses posted:Correction: water is used in residential applications to allow as many people as possible to survive, for commercial applications it's strictly to protect property. Not really. Residential sprinklers are strictly life safety, and are not designed to protect property. Commercial systems are designed to provide protection for both lives and property. You have no idea how many times I've told a restaurant they should change the sprinklers around their cooking equipment to higher temperatures, gotten laughed at for the effort, and then enjoyed going back at some future date to help the Fire Dept determine why "the sprinkler just went off by accident, it must have been bad". Not gonna argue that they don't make shitloads of water damage. But again the amount of water damage is also highly correlated with the number of boxes/ladders/heavy equipment/furniture placed between the entrance to the sprinkler room and the shut-off valves. That, and or the fact that they never bothered to have the system inspected in 20 years so the valves are corroded full open, so I guess the water will keep pouring till we get the city in to hit the street valve.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:Pretty impressed at how it successfully put out the fire. Tell me about it. Your long-distance-cooking oil fire may have toasted only your microwave, range, and a few wall cabinets, but the ensuing fire suppression hit sixteen units and five common areas on the three floors below you. It’s been a great week in the commercial claims business.
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I mentioned last week that I noticed a pretty bad security issue with some doors to access critical areas. My boss can be an rear end but I made a bet that if he closed his eyes for 10 seconds I can access that closed and locked door. I got in, made $100 and after an impromptu lesson on lockpicking etc he sat down with me for an hour going over how we can fix the issue.
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Humphreys posted:I mentioned last week that I noticed a pretty bad security issue with some doors to access critical areas. Did you bump it, or did you get it with a single rake across lovely-rear end pins?
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Proteus Jones posted:Did you bump it, or did you get it with a single rake across lovely-rear end pins? Latch slipping due to lovely dead latches. I even used his car key to slip it: Video should be at around 5 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnmcRTnTNC8&t=284s EDIT: This is too funny: Humphreys fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Oct 6, 2018 |
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Is it OSHA that we reported to management 3 weeks ago the HVAC wasn't properly maintaining the set temperature and it was uncomfortably warm in the department and the only response was a condescending how and why do you think it's hot in here followed by absolutely nothing. After loudly yelling at the submanager every loving time I saw her how hot I am and how I am lilting in this uncomfortable heat she called the HVAC crew. Dude came out, pulled out his phone to show me a pic he snapped of the commercial HVAC unit sized ice block and said there's your problem. The fan came unplugged. He couldn't even do further diagnostics because of the ice tomb. So we're just going to let it thaw over the weekend and see how she goes on Monday. Also there is so much ice the drainage system will most certainly not be able to handle it and we're going to get water leaking through the ceiling. Oh you mean the ceiling tiles that are all brown shitstained from water damage due to this same thing happening over and over for years because corporate too stingy to actually pay for genuine fix?
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oohhboy posted:The training is pretty garbage in the US. Not much about safety and dealing with emergencies. It's why you see so many light aircraft crashes and deaths per flight hour. The emergency landings are special. US is no doubt easier to fly with so much GA airspace. as an airline pilot and holder of a current CFI/II certificate, I say: you have no loving idea what you're talking about
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hmm, always wondered how realistic GTA's lamp post physics actually were
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Wall Balls posted:hmm, always wondered how realistic GTA's lamp post physics actually were Many roadside fixtures are designed to break near the base so if someone hits them it’s not like crashing into a brick wall.
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Lazyhound posted:That has to be deliberate, right? I mean, it says "Milwaukee, Wisconsin" so, yeah? We're like the Florida of the Midwest. 
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Oct 6, 2018 11:21
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I like the playful glint right before it hits the second one.
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Im the 3 car pileup on the other side.
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I'll bet he just drove home normally like he didn't just cause thousands of dollars in damage.
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Getting back to TREECHAT, I just found a youtube channel that has a poo poo-ton of tree fail compilations. The clip at 3:21 of the tree that refused to be cut down is  (One of the earlier clips shows some terrible things happening to a cat but it comes through okay) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht15KeEsQw4
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The Lone Badger posted:No ear protection. Bad dog. He can't hear you, you know.
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thepopmonster posted:He can't hear you, you know. Shoulda worn his ear pro
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Lazyhound posted:That has to be deliberate, right? Not necessarily. Don't have the beginning, but it looks like the truck has those outsized off-road tires and wheelbase, and it's entirely possible that the driver drifted over until one of the wheels contacted the jersey barrier and that it gained traction on it and literally drove up the side. I recall a whole bunch of photos of this phenomenon being posted earlier in the thread, but I can't find them now. If I'm right, the first time the driver realizes anything is wrong is as the truck is heading up the barrier, so it takes a couple seconds to process what is happening and fix it, by which time, the poles are down. Cojawfee posted:I'll bet he just drove home normally like he didn't just cause thousands of dollars in damage. Absolutely.
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Azathoth posted:Not necessarily. Don't have the beginning, but it looks like the truck has those outsized off-road tires and wheelbase, and it's entirely possible that the driver drifted over until one of the wheels contacted the jersey barrier and that it gained traction on it and literally drove up the side. Yeah it happens fairly frequently in the dashcam compilations that get posted in the PYF Schadenfreude thread. A top heavy vehicle like a delivery van or a 4WD will wander out of its lane and lightly graze another vehicle and a wheel gets vertical traction when they touch which makes them instantly flip on their side. Edit: someone posted an example at about the same time I made this post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iGaNVqTzkI&t=204s Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Oct 6, 2018 |
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Cojawfee posted:I'll bet he just drove home normally like he didn't just cause thousands of dollars in damage. You can see the DS tire is shredded near the end of the clip.
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Not really. I know they use Hi-Fog instead of sprinklers on cruise ships but I've never really thought about property damage - I guess less water automatically means less water damage?
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Jerry Cotton posted:I know they use Hi-Fog instead of sprinklers on cruise ships but I've never really thought about property damage - I guess less water automatically means less water damage? Less water means less mass spent on water and plumbing for moving it, which is important for moving vehicles.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Less water means less mass spent on water and plumbing for moving it, which is important for moving vehicles. While the pipes may be smaller in diameter, they are also a lot beefier so I don't know if the weight on that will be significantly or at all reduced. Then again it might be!
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Less water means less mass spent on water and plumbing for moving it, which is important for moving vehicles. Also if a ship is on fire, there's a possibility that it is also sinking. Moving water from wherever it was and just letting it flow where it wants means that the crew might be faced with the choice of fighting the fire and causing the ship to sink/list faster or letting it burn and having it sink/list slower.
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