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Cat Mattress posted:Obligatory:  Tevery Best posted:Par Alternativu has the best logo ever, it looks like it was stolen from a Paradox LP lmao, they have a trump "quote" in their party program: quote:14. Cancel the sanctions against the Russian Federation. USA President D. Trump: “ Only a fool doesn't doesn't have Russia as their friend.”
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I know they haven't counted Riga yet, but the results coming in are pretty  Tevery Best posted:Par Alternativu has the best logo ever, it looks like it was stolen from a Paradox LP Reminded me of this old SA thing a bit: 
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Tonton Macoute posted:I know they haven't counted Riga yet, but the results coming in are pretty Everyone except Riga and Latgale voted right-wing primarily. Where do they publish the actual vote results?
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https://sv2018.cvk.lv/pub/ElectionResults There's right wing and then there's KPV. I am not sure I really want to find out what their actual politics are. edit: either way, the public broadcaster as we know it, will be toast a podcast for cats fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Oct 6, 2018 |
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Tonton Macoute posted:https://sv2018.cvk.lv/pub/ElectionResults KPV LV politics are so great our politicians laugh on TV when debating them. Preliminary showing for KPV LV was the strongest at Kurzeme, but seeing that page suggests to me that I should order something from Lulu and strap in for a depressed ride.
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How the gently caress doe KPV clear 5% much less 15% 
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Arzachel posted:How the gently caress doe KPV clear 5% much less 15% Kolka Cool was a documentary
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Anyway, KPV LV politics "effortpost" (interview translation basically): 1) Plans for scaling down state apparatus? Dismantle current ministry system, create secretary bodies that share non-political resource (HR, accounting) and report directly to the cabinet of ministers. 2) Plans for scaling down municipalities? Reduce to 9, install supervisors approved by the cabinet of ministers. 3) Which 3 ministries you want? As we said, ministries are trash. Furthermore, the cabinet will be reduced to PM and 6 ministers. Our goal in the new structure is to hold PM position. 4) Any plans for Anti-corruption bureau, any specifics if so? The bureau is intellectually deficient in a way that renders them unable to execute justice in complex corruption schemes. We believe it is imperative to unite all financial and economical, be it public or private sector, crime investigation resources into a single entity to increase the concentration and effectiveness of talent. 5) Does Latvia stay in EU and NATO? Yes, and we should have closer cooperation, for example on defending external EU border. 6) What do you plan to change in the current pension syste,? We plan to change pension calculation formula, and inheritance rules. 7) What are your plans for material family welfare? We believe that main support for families is indirect, meaning good progress on healthcare and education issues, that builds trust of parents in those. But to address your question more specifically, we plan for state to take direct control of all pre-schools and schools, to avoid issues stemming from power differential between municipalities. For healthcare, we plan to bolster GPs, by increasing their count, the funding available to them, and decreasing their administrative duties. 8) What are your plans for payday loan industry in Latvia? Enforce APR to 50%, full ban on advertising. 9) What are your plans for gambling industry in Latvia? We believe gambling is to be tolerated only in casinos operated by 4 and 5 star hotels. 10) Please name 3 economical actions that will considerably improve state budget. 1 - execution of our reform plan for the state governance, taxation, and courts systems; fostering business environment and subsequently increasing tax earnings. 2 - execution of our reform plan for education and healthcare systems; fostering availability of labour force qualified for modern jobs and subsequently increasing GDP and tax gains. 3 - execution of our reform plan for the state tax agency, that will make it fit for today and refocus the attention from small taxpayers to large tax "unpayers". 11) Do you support legal changes to recognise homosexual marriage? We do not consider this to be a political question, and thus we propose to conduct a referedum on this question. We will stand by the outcome of that. 12) Does Latvia need a different president for next term? How they should be chosen? We've previously expressed support to Egils Levits, and we think Mr. Levits is a fully adequate candidate. 13) Should we increase defense expenditure to 2.5% of GDP in the next couple of years? No, for 13th (e: the one elected today) parliament it should stay at 2%. 14) What are your general plans for taxes and tax collection? There is a strong necessity in immediate and swiping changes of taxation magnitude. We believe that stability of state budget is more important than current taxation deficiences. We will form a national policy bureau, that will develop taxes for each industry separately, adjusted to foster economical gain. For incassation, we offer the earlier mentioned state tax service reform, which we believe will gain us 1bn extra tax recovery on annual basis. 15) Should we expand range of goods with VAT discount? To what specifically? VAT discounts should be used to improve life conditions of vulnerable groups and families with children. 16) Which political forces do you see as allies, and which do you not, working in united government? We don't understand this question; working in united government is possible only with allies. 17) <OIK poo poo, Latvian internal economy stuff I don't know how to explain. If other Latvian goons want to chime in, they want to abolish OIK as one of the first things of 13th parliament, as they thing it is not legal.> 18) Any plans on the real estate tax? After eligibility criteria are formed, we should immediately waive real estate tax to pensioners. We believe that in 5-7 years time Latvia should fully abolish real estate tax in case of sole dwelling. 19) Do you support transition of minority schools to education exclusively in Latvian? Yes, we do fully support Latvian as the language to use for education and communication in pre-schools, schools, and high schools. 20) Name three main actions to improve Latvian healthcare system? 1 - empower GPs, as mentioned earlier. 2 - decrease medication cost through liberalisation of pharmaceutical market. 3 - increase salaries for worst paid medical personnel.
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 If this all parties get into parliament, imagine the parliamentary firestorm.
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What's the cut-off? 4%?
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Wow I saw all the posts and came in here for more Russian spy tomfoolery but actually learned Real Info about Latvia instead. Thanks guys that was interesting
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Tevery Best posted:What's the cut-off? 4%? 5%
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cinci zoo sniper posted:17) <OIK poo poo, Latvian internal economy stuff I don't know how to explain. If other Latvian goons want to chime in, they want to abolish OIK as one of the first things of 13th parliament, as they thing it is not legal.> The way I understood it, OIK is a scheme that is intended to subsidize producers of renewable energy. The public distributor (think the public power company) buys energy from small and independent producers that produce energy using renewable sources or co-generation plants and passes a significant part of the cost onto the endusers, thus raising the energy prices for everyone. Of course, it turned out that the scheme had been set up and managed incompetently and/or negligently for most of this decade. Permits had been given out to power plants that didn't produce electricity, to plants that did not meet the criteria, etc. Lots of money was apparently wasted on bogus contracts and all of that was made worse by the fact that a couple hundred millions were spent on this during the worst periods of austerity while social services were being cut. It's a big talking point. Scaramouche posted:Wow I saw all the posts and came in here for more Russian spy tomfoolery but actually learned Real Info about Latvia instead. Thanks guys that was interesting Hard to tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In either case, see the Q&A for the For Alternative party (the kooks with the strange logo discussed earlier) below: https://eng.lsm.lv/article/politics/election/10-questions-to-for-an-alternative.a294293/
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Tonton Macoute posted:https://eng.lsm.lv/article/politics/election/10-questions-to-for-an-alternative.a294293/  I. Wow, just wow. They should've not opened with killing blow of restoring Ulmanis-era public administration, however.
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Cat Mattress posted:Obligatory: I can't believe how excited I am for the Jeb! campaign! This does my poisoned C-SPAM heart good.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:I can't believe how excited I am for the Jeb! campaign! This does my poisoned C-SPAM heart good. wait, you think he's going to give it another go?
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Rinkles posted:wait, you think he's going to give it another go? No, not at all lol. Please clap. 6. Do you support the Cohabitation Act, which would also provide a basis for legal relations for same-sex couples? Homosexuals will die off naturally, because they can not have any descendants! 
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The morning is here and the elections results are grim. My only hope now is that through some magic seeping in from Trump-Brexit axis of political absurdity we can get a Saskaņa/Attīstībai Par/KPV LV coalition, but I'm not sure if I actually want that.  Other than Saskaņa-KPV alliance (which, again, seems to be extremely unrealistic), there don't seem to be any other options whereby we do not have another 4 years to the right of centre.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:The morning is here and the elections results are grim. My only hope now is that through some magic seeping in from Trump-Brexit axis of political absurdity we can get a Saskaņa/Attīstībai Par/KPV LV coalition, but I'm not sure if I actually want that. How many parties were in the previous ruling coalition? It looks like you're gonna need three minimum with the results posted itt so far
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aphid_licker posted:How many parties were in the previous ruling coalition? It looks like you're gonna need three minimum with the results posted itt so far It was 3, but they all withered and weren’t they great anyways. My beef is they we have again voted in a way that makes government without Nazis impossible, as far as I am concerned.
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I am quite a lot more skeptical than you are about Saskaņa being bona fide social democrats. Topical tweet: https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1048851230167109632 Very much right. Noone will form a coalition with Saskaņa. Not because they are corrupt (cool and good reason), but because they are Russian (actual reason).
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Tonton Macoute posted:I am quite a lot more skeptical than you are about Saskaņa being bona fide social democrats. I don't think they are, examined in vacuum, a good socdem party, or a party that would value the concept of tikumība as a political entity. The fact is, however, that they are the only real party within a pole's reach from centre-left politics. Naturally, I don't hold any whatsoever illusions about feasibility of Saskaņa coalition either - I have more than enough relatable experiences on that matter due to me not being a "pure bred" Latvian from Riga. That still doesn't change my vote, in hindsight or otherwise.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I don't think they are, examined in vacuum, a good socdem party, or a party that would value the concept of tikumība as a political entity. The fact is, however, that they are the only real party within a pole's reach from centre-left politics. Considering my own views, I'm just glad that we might stay out the Vysegrad club this time around.
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Tonton Macoute posted:Considering my own views, I'm just glad that we might stay out the Vysegrad club this time around. I hope this is not an analogy where you insinuate Saskaņa being Chech Republic here while also somehow denying that National Alliance et. al. is both Hungary and Poland simultaneously.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I hope this is not an analogy where you insinuate Saskaņa being Chech Republic here while also somehow denying that National Alliance et. al. is both Hungary and Poland simultaneously. Nah. Romania would be a more apt comparison for Saskaņa. But yeah, I was comparing NA to Poland/Hungary. edit: And speculating that they will not be influential enough to shift us in that direction. a podcast for cats fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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Tonton Macoute posted:Nah. Romania would be a more apt comparison for Saskaņa. But yeah, I was comparing NA to Poland/Hungary. Ah, that angle. Fair enough, although I'm hardly excited about the size of JKP/KPV, and how much unknown influence that brings in.
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Arzachel posted:I'm expecting to see some sort of an uneasy alliance between JKP/Attistībai/NA/Vienotība with ZZS being the wildcard You think Vienotība & JKP is possible?
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skipThings posted:5. Name three economic measures that could significantly improve the revenue side of the state budget? There's a couple of batshit insane parties sprouting up every election so I'll cut cinci zoo sniper some slack on whiffing a guess
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skipThings posted:5. Name three economic measures that could significantly improve the revenue side of the state budget? They can be right wing syndicalists, and that would be fine for latvian since our green party and our agrarian party are the same entity. Stated goal of their political activities is to constitutionally introduce syndicalist economy model. Arzachel posted:There's a couple of batshit insane parties sprouting up every election so I'll cut cinci zoo sniper some slack on whiffing a guess I just looked them up, no guesswork involved. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I just looked them up, no guesswork involved. Ah, that article skips the more bonkers libertarian bits of their program and I forgot that antifa/anti-fascist has a whole different meaning here.
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a country created by nazis turns out to have lovely political thought wow (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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HorrificExistence posted:a country created by nazis turns out to have lovely political thought what?
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Chemtrail posted:what? latvia, much like amerikkka, is an invention of the nefarious prussian
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Ignore that, plenty of DnD goons have recently decided that all nations east of Berlin are fake products of Nazism and should be subjugated by Russia to stomp the contamination out of them. It's just a cool and acceptable way for these posters to fulfill their need to be racist. When they aren't calling Baltic countries nests of Hitler worshippers, they are calling for Russia to overthrow the Banderites in Ukraine and start the next Holodomor or for tanks to roll into Budapest or whatever.
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HorrificExistence posted:a country created by nazis turns out to have lovely political thought Did you again drink from a ditch, slavs?
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