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Thanks for the great LP! My votes: Lords of the Realm Ground Control Theme Hospital
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If I can nominate a game from 2001 on my list, put Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns at the top. It came in 2001, so it's a little past the cutoff point. It definitely is older than fifteen years, however. Warlords series I've played Warlords Battlecry, but I've never been able to find the turn-based games for sale digitally so I've never had the chance to play them. To my surprise, I've found out I can play Warlords 2 in my browser nowadays. Dunno which would be best to run with. Star General or Fantasy General Lords of the Realm Bumped off the list because I remembered the three vote maximum. Master of Magic Master of Orion 2 Age of Wonders Added later because I only thought of it after hitting post. The Incredible Machine if you want to experiment with the video format so more. LordSloth fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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Oct 7, 2018 08:35
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Might I suggest Alien Legacy? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Legacy It appears to be right up your alley.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:37
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Deathwind posted:Might I suggest Alien Legacy? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Legacy Oh man, that reminds me of Reunion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reunion_(video_game) Now there's a weird game. It's primarily real-time strategy, but also has some adventure game elements, and some ships need to be flown in first person, like transport fleets, rather than you being able to just command them to go places and do things. Or possibly I just never figured out how to command them otherwise as a kid.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:46
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I don't know if the original Command & Conquer is eligible in any form or way, but it is an RTS, allegedly. Otherwise good options in my opinion are Age of Wonders and Age of Empires, the latter of which I played the crap out of.
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Oct 7, 2018 11:12
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Good suggestions everybody. I haven't even heard of a quarter or so of this stuff. Wayne posted:even if I am more of a DS9 than a Voyager guy So am I, actually. But it's hard to fit what I consider the best stuff about it into MOO. ** Cellular ennui? ** slapstick Ferengi comedy: "Brunt … FCA"; "You gave them vacations! You DISGUST me!"; "Your entire family will be thrown from the top of the Tower of Commerce, and small children will take bets on where you land"; "My house is my house … and so are all of its contents" "Exploitation begins at home!" "You couldn't ambush a bolean if it was blindfolded and tied to a tree!" etc. ** Garuuk's rather … ahem … extreme morality. ** That Cardassian trial … And so on. Could have been a Cardassian with the Make Cardassia Great Again cap from the BOTF thread and Gul Dukat as the protagonist … but it didn't feel right. And they aren't very hive-mind in nature. So piffle. PurpleXVI posted:AGE OF WONDERS for an older, fantasy-themed 4x that's pretty well-designed, and which has a great sequel, Age of Wonders 3, which is sadly out of the scope(time-wise) for the retro suggestions. The starting point of the series is old enough, so it would count if we began with the original. LordSloth posted:Star General or Fantasy General Oh my. I've started about a half-dozen different SSI games. Never got anywhere with them. Then I saw someone(Grey Hunter?) plowing through them like they were nothing. Course I haven't tried in like a decade but yeah that's a trip down memory lane. Lynneth posted:I don't know if the original Command & Conquer is eligible in any form or way, but it is an RTS, allegedly. Sure. It's a crime against humanity, at the very least that there isn't a proper megathread for that series. There's one of the original from a few years ago, and also Renegade and Tiberian Dawn were done at some point by different people, but none of the more recent ones. That has to change sometime, but whether I'm the person for it and whether this is the time for it is another question entirely.
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Oct 7, 2018 11:36
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1. Seconding Alien Legacy. It's realtime with no pause so I could never get into it but would like to see it done. Nothing in the archive but some LPs on YT. 2. Master of Magic, preferably with the Unofficial Patch. There's nweismuller's LP in the archive so you should probably pick another strategy. 11 death books and Wraith starting spell is so much fun... 3. Sid Meier's Colonization.
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Oct 7, 2018 11:52
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I would love an analytic take on Ground Control, I was always awful at that game. And this thread has been an amazing read Thot, I have vague memories of playing this game as a kid and it has been interesting to see it picked apart.
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Oct 7, 2018 12:08
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Seconding Warlords II. Alternatively, Castles:Siege and Conquest. You get to design your own castles and also finance a trip to find Prester John!!
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Oct 7, 2018 12:55
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Frozenzen posted:I would love an analytic take on Ground Control, I was always awful at that game. Ground Control is my vote. I feel like it was very revolutionary when it came out, and not many people played it. Freespace would be my second choice but everyone who was a gamer in the 90s is familiar with it.
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Oct 7, 2018 14:18
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MOO2 I loved that game.
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Oct 7, 2018 14:33
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Deathwind posted:Might I suggest Alien Legacy? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Legacy PurpleXVI posted:Oh man, that reminds me of Reunion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reunion_(video_game) Now there's a weird game. It's primarily real-time strategy, but also has some adventure game elements, and some ships need to be flown in first person, like transport fleets, rather than you being able to just command them to go places and do things. Or possibly I just never figured out how to command them otherwise as a kid. Failing that, it really is a crime that Theme Hospital hasn't had the LP treatment. Paging Doctor Thotimx!
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Oct 7, 2018 15:57
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Congratulations on besting MOO in every possible way! N'thing Alien Legacy, a pretty neat game I never played for long enough to find out what happened with the main plot. Ascendancy might be worth a look if you want to keep it 4X. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendancy_(video_game) Kind of amazed to learn there hasn't been an SA LP of Theme Hospital so that'll be my third pick.
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Oct 7, 2018 16:11
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My three are Lords of the Realm, MOO2, and Homeworld Thank you for reminding me that LotR/II exists! I played the hell out of that when I was younger and it was amazing to me. I want to see how you play/break MOO2 as just like following along with MOO here, I'm trying to get better at the game. And as for Homeworld, I was never able to get into it due to not being a good player and the spectre of game death spirals if I didn't mine everything on every map and lose too many units/resources, but I'd love to see it played by someone who knows how it's done.
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Oct 7, 2018 16:25
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LotR was the first strategy game I got really into as a kid. I remember buying Lords of Magic entirely because I thought it was a sequel to LotR. Lords of Magic was also great, if janky as hell.
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Oct 7, 2018 16:33
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Heroes of Might and Magic III! I guess MoO2 is my second choice.
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Oct 7, 2018 17:02
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So many choices... Dune 2, Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune to start, but also , Z: Steel Soldiers, Civilization: Call to Power, the Space Empires series, The Settlers... I'm gonna go with Dune 2000!
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Oct 7, 2018 17:20
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I want malpractice. Theme Hospital
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Oct 7, 2018 17:42
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Theme Hospital MAX All the fine choices.
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Oct 7, 2018 18:31
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Ground control seems interesting with the "no reinforcements in-mission", and along a similar theme, you might be interested in the fairly obscure Original War (assuming that release date of 2001 is ok). Theme Hospital as my 3rd vote.
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Oct 7, 2018 19:16
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I'm very interested in seeing Ground Control because I've never played it and I'd like to be able to compare with my favorite RTT games, the Myth series (hi Guava, no I'm still not LPing Myth 2). e: Age of Wonders is also a very good and very fun game that does not play at all fair with you later in the campaign. Thankfully you get many tools to be ridiculously unfair right back. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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Oct 7, 2018 19:38
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Corbeau posted:I'm very interested in seeing Ground Control because I've never played it and I'd like to be able to compare with my favorite RTT games, the Myth series (hi Guava, no I'm still not LPing Myth 2). Hi. Looking back at the gaming peak of the late 90s, I remember the best being the X games - X-COM, Xeen and X-Wing. All LPs I've done or have done. Then it was MOO and Myth terms of time spent, so I'd be ok with MOO 2 or Ground Control because MOO2 is awesome and GC for the reason Corbeau said. Oh yeah and Ultima 6 was pretty sweet too.
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Oct 7, 2018 19:56
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uberkeyzer posted:Seconding Warlords II. Alternatively, Castles:Siege and Conquest. You get to design your own castles and also finance a trip to find Prester John!! Personally I'd say, if Warlords, do Warlords III, because that's the one where you can make custom factions, and it has a greater variety of units and items. It still plays more or less identical to the other two, just looks nicer and has more content.
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Corbeau posted:I'm very interested in seeing Ground Control because I've never played it and I'd like to be able to compare with my favorite RTT games, the Myth series (hi Guava, no I'm still not LPing Myth 2). No need to qualify with “RTT”, Myth is the best series of all time. 
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Oct 7, 2018 21:38
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I would love any of the Warlords games since I played one of them a bunch as a kid in the late 90s (iirc it came with my aunt's computer or something) but never fully understood it, unlike the MOO games where I think I was good enough to beat on hard.
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Oct 7, 2018 21:39
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I got a bit of a story with Ground Control so it's gotta have my vote. About 10-15 years ago I had a subscription to a German videogame magazine, and they had a free game each month, usually shovelware, but once: Ground Control. I was into RTS' back then, so I thought it might be right up my alley. Especially after I learned that it didn't feature any base building, because the "troops only" missions were always my favourite! Turns out, I was and still am actually awful at RTS', because I mostly played Command & Conquer where "30+ tanks" is not only viable, but possibly the best strategy, and all the no-base missions are the same, but with less tanks (they're still the best because they have a higher range than the enemy turrets). Ground Control required actual strategy and I can't do that, so I got absolutely annihilated in the second mission and never returned  .One thing will always make me remember the game, though: it was fully dubbed in German, and in the intro, the female commander you play as gets recalled from retirement or something, and she says something like "guess you never forget how to command troops, it's like riding bikes", and the way she deadpan delivers "ist wie Radfahren" will always stick with me and I keep using it irl for "can't unlearn this skill".
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Oct 7, 2018 23:15
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Xenocides posted:I want malpractice. Theme Hospital Same. Also for my second vote: Master of Orion 2 (I loved it but I still welcome your criticism). Thanks for an excellent LP. I've enjoyed reading every update! Brought back a lot of fond memories and got me to buy it off GOG to have another go.
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Oct 8, 2018 00:13
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Master of Orion 2, because I really enjoyed watching you play the first one and I'm very interested to read more of your opinions regarding it and how it does, and does not, measure up to it's predecessor. Homeworld, because I love that game dearly, it holds a very special place in my heart. I'm not sure I'll ever tire of reading/watching LPs of it. I'm not very familiar with most of the other suggestions, to be honest, so I think I'll just throw in Ground Control, largely because it's the one I've seen most mention of prior to this vote.
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Oct 8, 2018 00:36
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I'm going to vote Ground Control, Theme Hospital and Master of Orion 2. The first two because I think it would be nice to have a modern quality LP of them and the latter because as you said it is the logical continuation of this LP and the format would lend itself well to both show it off while listening to your criticisms of it.
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Oct 8, 2018 00:42
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For the next game why not the original XCom?
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radintorov posted:I'm going to vote Ground Control, Theme Hospital and Master of Orion 2.
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Oct 8, 2018 03:27
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Lords of the Realm
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BurningStone posted:For the next game why not the original XCom Does 'I'm fairly rubbish at XCOM' count as a reason? Of course that may be considered a feature instead of a bug, but I'm not at all confident I could actually complete it on a reasonably high difficulty. Which would mean a lot of 'research' -- aka getting better at the game before starting an LP of it. Which may not necessarily be a bad thing. Honestly, I really like XCOM. I also think that Jade Star/Guava Moment's work on them are of such a high standard that it would almost be sacrilege to pollute things with what I'd come up with. But I'll definitely add it to the possibles. Also, the lot of you are clearly going to make this a close vote and a tough decision. I like having that kind of problem. Strategic Sage fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Oct 8, 2018 |
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Oct 8, 2018 06:05
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X-Piratez or something other in deep scene of OpenXCom total conversions, then?
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Oct 8, 2018 06:32
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Thotimx posted:Does 'I'm fairly rubbish at XCOM' count as a reason? Of course that may be considered a feature instead of a bug, but I'm not at all confident I could actually complete it on a reasonably high difficulty. Which would mean a lot of 'research' -- aka getting better at the game before starting an LP of it. Which may not necessarily be a bad thing. There's also some of the X-COM homages that have easier learning curves - Xenonauts is amazing, for example and smooths out most of the UI/general weirdness issues X-COM had and is much, much easier to follow. And I've not -seen- a playthrough of it here.
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Oct 8, 2018 07:25
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xenonauts has not had an LP on the forums and there's some pretty great tactics that you can wrench out of the game due to its updated gear pool at least. one of the strongest early game strategies for breaching areas is to go full on LAPD and equip soldiers with riot shields and stun sticks, so their shields eat the reaction fire from enemies and after that there's a lot of sickening crunches and blood flying while jacked up jackboots yell "stop resisting"
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Coolguye posted:xenonauts has not had an LP on the forums and there's some pretty great tactics that you can wrench out of the game due to its updated gear pool at least. one of the strongest early game strategies for breaching areas is to go full on LAPD and equip soldiers with riot shields and stun sticks, so their shields eat the reaction fire from enemies and after that there's a lot of sickening crunches and blood flying while jacked up jackboots yell "stop resisting" Also has a better UI and AI. Particularly if you use some of the mods like the Community Edition. And the game doesn't have -that- high nuts a learning curve if you're going the X-COM route. You do not, for example, have to transfer out all the random flares in your base out when a base attack is incoming to make sure your troops spawn with guns. Also fun tactics involve SAWs. Early game just having two heavy machine guns behind cover and set to full reaction fire is a glorious, glorious thing sitting outside the UFO door when the alien plays peekaboo. Sure, it destroys everything in the breech but it is glorious.
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Coolguye posted:xenonauts has not had an LP on the forums and there's some pretty great tactics that you can wrench out of the game due to its updated gear pool at least. one of the strongest early game strategies for breaching areas is to go full on LAPD and equip soldiers with riot shields and stun sticks, so their shields eat the reaction fire from enemies and after that there's a lot of sickening crunches and blood flying while jacked up jackboots yell "stop resisting" The main problem with Xenonauts is the end-game which, unless they patched it, has some issues. The rest of the game is fun, reasonably well-balanced, has neat options, fun enemies, decent writing, good art, etc. But in the last part where, I refuse to let this count as a spoiler when this is an X-COM homage, you encounter the local Ethereal-alikes, it becomes severely annoying. Because they don't need line-of-sight to psionically attack your dudes, or even for any alien to have the dude they want to psi-attack in sight, so every round it's more or less a save-or-die against them mind controlling someone with a heavy weapon and having him gun down several of his unprotected allies from behind. It sounds like something they're fixing for Xenonauts 2, but I honestly experienced that once they Ethereal-esques popped up, I was spending more time saving and loading than anything else to get through a mission, because there really was no viable strategy beyond "gee, I sure hope my dudes pass their psionic defense saves."
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Oct 8, 2018 10:21
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In complete fairness the 'aliens screwing you over completely and utterly' is also an X-COM staple. Xenonauts merely does not give you the same methodology of screwing the aliens back as supremely effectively (you cannot get psionics, you do not get blaster bombs, your feeble attempts at blockinga lien mind screws shall fail faster than RNG $##!). Upside, your soldiesr aren't quite as prone to panic and fire a rocket launcher into your own troops. Cold comfort.
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